[Zimphire]

I would have never guessed...



http://www.townhall.com/columnists/b...20031022.shtml

Time to take away gov funding.

[Nonsuch]

Where is the quote in which an NPR representative "admits" that NPR is biased toward liberals?

[Demonhood]

their ombudsman states that one interviewer "came across as a pro-Franken partisan rather than a neutral and curious journalist" and that's NPR admitting the whole station is liberal? don't think so.

and this part is jush laughable:

Under the guise of "objective news" reporting, the left is actively advancing its political agenda.

"fair and balanced©"
where's Fox News' ombudsman?

quite a troll of an article there zimph.

[boots]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I would have never guessed...



http://www.townhall.com/columnists/b...20031022.shtml

Time to take away gov funding.

The quote from the NPR ombudsman was about the public perception, not about an agenda. There is a very big difference between the two.

[Spliffdaddy]

If public perception is that you're liberal - then you probably are.

NPR is simply equal time (at taxpayer expense) for liberals whose point of view would be dismissed by real media outlets.

I have never heard NPR referred-to as 'conservative-biased' - in my lifetime.


edited to add:

FOX news isn't funded with taxpayer dollars. I don't care what they report.

edited again:

Only liberals don't like FOX news

[chris v]

The poor, downtrodden, misunderstood, under-appreciated, put-upon conservatives! They're abused by the media, attacked by the liberals, scorned and vilified at every turn. In fact, they're downright persecuted. Will they ever get a fair break?

Jesus H. Chris on a crutch. you've got the White House, both halves of Congress, the Supreme Court, the governorships of the 4 most populous states in the union, NYC, LA and Faux News.


What the hell else do you want??

CV

[petehammer]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
If public perception is that you're liberal - then you probably are.

Wow!

So you do realize what public perception is of you right?

[chris v]

Originally posted by petehammer:
Wow!

So you do realize what public perception is of you right?

:smackdown:™

CV

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
their ombudsman states that one interviewer "came across as a pro-Franken partisan rather than a neutral and curious journalist" and that's NPR admitting the whole station is liberal? don't think so.

and this part is jush laughable:


"fair and balanced©"
where's Fox News' ombudsman?

quite a troll of an article there zimph.

Fox news isn't payed for by our tax dollars.

NPR is a bunch of liberal garbage.

And that is ok. They area allowed to voice their opinions.

But I don't want my tax dollars funding it.

[Spliffdaddy]

Originally posted by petehammer:
Wow!

So you do realize what public perception is of you right?

I'm happy as long as I'm not confused with being a liberal Democrat.

There's nothing more spineless than that.

[lil'babykitten]

Originally posted by chris v:
Jesus H. Chris on a crutch. you've got the White House, both halves of Congress, the Supreme Court, the governorships of the 4 most populous states in the union, NYC, LA and Faux News.


What the hell else do you want??

CV

Heh. Seems like they want to shut out any kind of liberal voice (not that the article linked to here gives a decent argument to support it's accusation)

Cut the funding? how low can you go?

[Zimphire]

No, don't want to shut it down kitten. I just don't want my tax money PAYING for it.

Would you want your tax dollars to say, fund a news program run by Limbaugh?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
If public perception is that you're liberal - then you probably are.

Translation: If Spliff and Zimpf say you're liberal, then you're liberal.

[mr. natural]

Posted by chris v:

What the hell else do you want??

They want it all: EVERYTHING!

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Translation: If Spliff and Zimpf say you're liberal, then you're liberal.

Who was I calling a liberal?

[daimoni]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Fox news isn't payed for by our tax dollars.

NPR is a bunch of liberal garbage.

And that is ok. They area allowed to voice their opinions.

But I don't want my tax dollars funding it.

Damn. You're an ignorant twit. Here's another smackdown for you:

http://www.npr.org/programs/npc/index.html

They only let 'liberals' on the air. It's their agenda. Paid with our tax dollars!!!!

[lil'babykitten]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
No, don't want to shut it down kitten. I just don't want my tax money PAYING for it.

Would you want your tax dollars to say, fund a news program run by Limbaugh?

huh? You want to cut funding but you don't want to shut it down. How do the two go together?

I'd be in favour of my 'tax dollars' being used to make society aware of as many sides of the story as possible.

[Demonhood]

not content with just one thread on the issue?

i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't see that one, not that you just wanted to post a topic with a more sensational headline.

and stolen from another thread:

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by chris v:
The poor, downtrodden, misunderstood, under-appreciated, put-upon conservatives! They're abused by the media, attacked by the liberals, scorned and vilified at every turn. In fact, they're downright persecuted. Will they ever get a fair break?

Jesus H. Chris on a crutch. you've got the White House, both halves of Congress, the Supreme Court, the governorships of the 4 most populous states in the union, NYC, LA and Faux News.


What the hell else do you want??

CV

It's not OUR fault the Democrats are failures at this point in time.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by daimoni:
Damn. You're an ignorant twit.

After reading that I decided there was nothing after it that was worth reading.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
n
and stolen from another thread:

ANd out of those, which are publicly funded?

I really don't think ANYONE would say NPR was NOT liberally biased.

I mean I am sure there is.. but come on..

[daimoni]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
After reading that I decided there was nothing after it that was worth reading.

But gee, isn't it hard to breathe with your head in the sand?

I didn't mean to smack you down THAT hard.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by daimoni:
But gee, isn't it hard to breathe with your head in the sand?

I didn't mean to smack you down THAT hard.

Keep patting yourself on the back daimoni.

No smackdown. Just silly name calling.

Not once did I claim they only let liberals on the air.

[Timo]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
stolen from another thread:

I'd like some of the paleo-cons, Spiff or Z will do, to speak to the import of this news.

[petehammer]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
ANd out of those, which are publicly funded?

I really don't think ANYONE would say NPR was NOT liberally biased.

I mean I am sure there is.. but come on..

Did you look at your graph? It says FOX people are the most uninformed... don't you remember that thread?

Hell, I love public funding if it means far more accurate news, especially with the incredibly low amount of money NPR gets.

-p

[daimoni]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Keep patting yourself on the back daimoni.

No smackdown. Just silly name calling.

Okay. You got caught. But since I'm a tree hugging liberal, I'll do a catch and release. Don't want to overrun the stock too much.


On yer mark. Ready. Steady. Go!!!


Run wabbit run.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by petehammer:
Did you look at your graph? It says FOX people are the most uninformed... don't you remember that thread?

Hell, I love public funding if it means far more accurate news, especially with the incredibly low amount of money NPR gets.

-p

\

My point is, Fox isn't publicly funded.

And I am not JUST TALKING ABOUT THE WAR.

Over all NPR is liberally biased.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by daimoni:
Okay. You got caught. But since I'm a tree hugging liberal, I'll do a catch and release. Don't want to overrun the stock too much.


On yer mark. Ready. Steady. Go!!!


Run wabbit run.

You forget to quote the part where I said I never claimed they didn't let non-liberals on.

Your whole premise of your so called "smack down" that never was.

[daimoni]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
You forget to quote the part where I said I never claimed they didn't let non-liberals on.

Your whole premise of your so called "smack down" that never was.

Wow. I've never seen someone paddle in reverse so fast.

Are you sure you have a license for that canoe?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by daimoni:
Wow. I've never seen someone paddle in reverse so fast.

Are you sure you have a license for that canoe?

Backpeddling? Again I ask you, where did I state that NPR never let non-liberals on?

Or are you again just going to make another reply that has no basis on fact?

[lil'babykitten]

This kind of tennis game style posting makes me want to

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
This kind of tennis game style posting makes me want to

I agree, why he feels the need to "bust me" for something I never said is beyond me.

And then after I point out I indeed never said such a thing, why he feels he has to continue to act as if I did..

Dishonesty doesn't gain credibility.

But I am sure it's somehow all my fault.

[Gee-Man]

This article doesn't say anything about NPR "admitting" to anything. It doesn't even state that there's a "public perception" that NPR is liberal - the ombudman says that "some" think that NPR is liberal and that this specific interview only served to reinforce that view. Nothing about NPR in general.

The title of this thread is 100% silliness™.

[daimoni]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Backpeddling? Again I ask you, where did I state that NPR never let non-liberals on?

Or are you again just going to make another reply that has no basis on fact?

Nice try.

This is your M.O. that we've seen from you time and time again:

Say one thing. And then say, "where did I ever say" (mock innocence)<something else>.

Switch-o. Change-o.

I'm sorry. It's just not going to work this time.

You said, (and I quote):

NPR is a bunch of liberal garbage.

And that is ok. They area allowed to voice their opinions.

But I don't want my tax dollars funding it.

How can NPR be a bunch of liberal garbage when they air many non-liberal speakers?

Unless your definition of "a bunch" means something else to the rest of us.

Did you ever qualify your statement to include non-liberal speakers? No. Not until now.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
My point is, Fox isn't publicly funded.

So ... what does that have to do with the issue here? Publicly funded stations SHOULD misinform their viewers? If they have a liberal bias, perhaps it's because the truth is liberally biased and privately funded stations such as Fox need to twist the news to meet the conservative demands of their viewers?

[chris v]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
So ... what does that have to do with the issue here? Publicly funded stations SHOULD misinform their viewers? If they have a liberal bias, perhaps it's because the truth is liberally biased and privately funded stations such as Fox need to twist the news to meet the conservative demands of their viewers?

A good smackdown is fun now and then, but I'm beginning to wince at the sheer brutality of the repeated smacking™ going on here. Can't the referee declare a TKO??

CV

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by daimoni:
Nice try.

This is your M.O. that we've seen from you time and time again:

Say one thing. And then say, "where did I ever say" (mock innocence)<something else>.

Switch-o. Change-o.

I'm sorry. It's just not going to work this time.

You said, (and I quote):

There was no switch-o chango o.

Rush lets liberals voice there opinion too. I would still say it was conservative in nature.

It is you that is now trying to backpeddle.

How can NPR be a bunch of liberal garbage when they air many non-liberal speakers?

Unless your definition of "a bunch" means something else to the rest of us.

LOL! What a star grab.

"Bunch of liberal garbage" does not, and I repeat does not equate to "They only let liberals on"

Sorry to bust down your star grab.

Keep em coming.

[daimoni]

Originally posted by chris v:
A good smackdown is fun now and then, but I'm beginning to wince at the sheer brutality of the repeated smacking™ going on here. Can't the referee declare a TKO??

CV

Yeah. You're right. It's just not sporting any more.

I return you to your regular scheduled programming.

[lil'babykitten]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Keep em coming.

No don't, seriously.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by daimoni:
Yeah. You're right. It's just not sporting any more.

I return you to your regular scheduled programming.

Maybe next time you'll bring more to the plate other than dishonesty.

The funny part about this is, if it was a CONSERVATIVE station being funded, you all would be having a fit. Well most of you anyhow.

With the exception of babykitten. I feel she honestly would have no problem with it.,

[Timo]

C'mon, Z, speak about this news:

You've got time for name calling and stone walling, how about expending one of your 12000+ posts on the implications of above?

[Zimphire]

Timo that has nothing to do with what the discussion is at hand.

I am not arguing WHO IS MORE right.

This is what is known as a strawman argument.

And that above, coming from one source...

"one of three misconceptions"

Come on...

[Timo]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Timo that has nothing to do with what the discussion is at hand.

I am not arguing WHO IS MORE right.

This is what is known as a strawman argument.

And that above, coming from one source...

"one of three misconceptions"

Come on...

It has everything to do with the discussion at hand -- the real strawman here is your "NPR admits liberal bias", a claim that was demolished to my satisfaction in the first two or three posts.

C'mon...tell me what this means:

[mr. natural]

How about we stop giving money to companies that are:

1. Very profitable

2. Yet pay little or no taxes

3. Have inside connections to the levers of government

4. And for all of the above get to fleece your pockets for a lot more than NPR ever gets!

Fat chance with all the venal fat cat right-wing draft dodging paleo-cons™ chicken hawks at the head of this back to the future administration.

But if you want to cry a river of crocodile tears over @ SEVEN cents per taxpayer funds to support the "liberal media" of NPR be my guest.

What a joke.

[chris v]

Originally posted by Timo:
It has everything to do with the discussion at hand -- the real strawman here is your "NPR admits liberal bias", a claim that was demolished to my satisfaction in the first two or three posts.

C'mon...tell me what this means:

He's having a hard time facing up to the fact that the truth has a "liberal bias."

CV

[Timo]

Nicholson was right, some people can't handle the truth.

[Nonsuch]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
So ... what does that have to do with the issue here? Publicly funded stations SHOULD misinform their viewers? If they have a liberal bias, perhaps it's because the truth is liberally biased and privately funded stations such as Fox need to twist the news to meet the conservative demands of their viewers?

"Wiskedjak's at the 30 ... he's at the 20 ... he's going all the way ... no one's even laying a glove on him!"

[nonhuman]

I'm not liberal, I don't like Fox news (although it's better than the WB news, is that still around?), I don't particularly like NPR, and I still don't find NPR to have a particularly liberal bias.

Maybe the problem is just that your view of the world has a conservative bias, so anything with less of a conservative bias, or even no bias seems to have a liberal bias?

[riverfreak]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
No, don't want to shut it down kitten. I just don't want my tax money PAYING for it.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Does anyone actually bother to check their facts here? At just what level is NPR funded by "your tax dollars". It's a VERY small percentage of the annual operating budget. I'd like to compare that to, say Haliburton's tax subsidies.

And what about other media outlets funded by the government. How about VOA, which has a fair greater GLOBAL listenership than NPR. What kind of crap do you think they are spweing about our Nation Building and rampant interventionism?

And finally, NPR is much more than just news. Maybe if people would freaking tune out from their Clear Channel / Fox news drivel could start to see that.

[Nonsuch]

Originally posted by riverfreak:
And finally, NPR is much more than just news. Maybe if people would freaking tune out from their Clear Channel / Fox news drivel could start to see that.

I think it's high time we did something about the rampant liberal bias of the Thistle and Shamrock. I don't want my tax dollars subsidizing that Celtic liberal crap!