[Lerkfish]

this CNN story is interesting..please read the entire article...of note:

(CNN) -- The United States failed to properly assess Iraq's pre-war economy U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Friday, but he blamed the condition of the country on its deposed leader Saddam Hussein.

"I don't want to downplay this. It is a dangerous situation," Powell said. "Our principal goal in the near future is to get the security situation under control in the Sunni triangle -- Baghdad, Fallujah, that whole triangle. Once that is done, then you'll see a lot of criticism -- about whether we are on the road to success or not -- go away."
Powell said that, to beef up security, more former members of Saddam's army and police will be incorporated into the new militias, police forces and border patrols. "We'll build 'em up as fast as we can, and when they come back this time, they will be representatives of the people and not of Saddam Hussein."

"We don't know where he is," Powell added. "I don't know if he's dead or alive. But it is not appropriate to say that intelligence has told us that he is pulling the strings and he is coordinating these attacks that we have been seeing in recent days."
U.S. officials have said they believe Saddam is still in the country, protected by his loyalists.

[Mohammed Atef]

infidel, we all read the news. At least post your position when you do this. What we don't need is an unopinionated regurgitation of the Communist News Network, kavkaz.org, or any other news rag out there.

[eklipse]

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
infidel, we all read the news. At least post your position when you do this. What we don't need is an unopinionated regurgitation of the Communist News Network, kavkaz.org, or any other news rag out there.

He says - failing to post his own position.


The fact that government officials are only now just waking up to the reality of the situation in Iraq speaks volumes about their competency and credibility.

[zigzag]

Originally posted by eklipse:
The fact that government officials are only now just waking up to the reality of the situation in Iraq speaks volumes about their competency and credibility.

I don't expect politicians to be credible, but I do expect them to be competent. The amount of poor intelligence and planning that we've seen is distressing to say the least. I'm not necessarily opposed to bold actions like the overthrow of Saddam, but I do expect that when bold actions are taken, our leaders have a thorough understanding of the situation.

Ironically, it was Powell who wanted to take a more measured approach.

[MacGorilla]

Originally posted by zigzag:
I don't expect politicians to be credible, but I do expect them to be competent. The amount of poor intelligence and planning that we've seen is distressing to say the least. I'm not necessarily opposed to bold actions like the overthrow of Saddam, but I do expect that when bold actions are taken, our leaders have a thorough understanding of the situation.

Ironically, it was Powell who wanted to take a more measured approach.

I agree. There just seems to be startling lack of foresight on many issues when it comes to Iraq.

[Mohammed Atef]

Originally posted by eklipse:
He says - failing to post his own position.


The fact that government officials are only now just waking up to the reality of the situation in Iraq speaks volumes about their competency and credibility.

I can't form an opinion when I don't know what the hell the topic is about. It's just a compilation of Powell quotes on a random subject. Once the parameters of the topic are established, I'll start dishing out the Enlightenment and Wisdom for you apostatic fools.

[Mohammed Atef]

Originally posted by zigzag:
I don't expect politicians to be credible, but I do expect them to be competent. The amount of poor intelligence and planning that we've seen is distressing to say the least. I'm not necessarily opposed to bold actions like the overthrow of Saddam, but I do expect that when bold actions are taken, our leaders have a thorough understanding of the situation.

I will agree with those sentiments, and they mirror my own.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
infidel, we all read the news. At least post your position when you do this. What we don't need is an unopinionated regurgitation of the Communist News Network, kavkaz.org, or any other news rag out there.

its called a topic.

[Mohammed Atef]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
its called a topic.

it's called a bunch of quotes pieced together.

unfocused I label it.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
I can't form an opinion when I don't know what the hell the topic is about. It's just a compilation of Powell quotes on a random subject. Once the peramiters of the topic are established, I'll start dishing out the Enlightenment and Wisdom for you apostatic fools.

when I posted a thread and made my own opinions known I was attacked for having an agenda by you right wing whiners. When I posted a news article and only quoted certain sections, I was accused of manipulating the information by you right wing whiners. now I just start the thread without making my opinion known, and encourage you to read the entire article to come to your own conclusions, and you right wing whiners gripe that you don't like a LACK of opinion.

not a happy lot, are you, eh?

[shmerek]

Why bother responding to these guys? It is pointless, put them on ignore.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
I can't form an opinion when I don't know what the hell the topic is about. It's just a compilation of Powell quotes on a random subject. Once the peramiters of the topic are established, I'll start dishing out the Enlightenment and Wisdom for you apostatic fools.

ka-ching! you have been reported

[eklipse]

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
I can't form an opinion when I don't know what the hell the topic is about. It's just a compilation of Powell quotes on a random subject.

"W-w-what topic? Where are my false teeth? Who stole my slippers?"

Once the peramiters of the topic are established, I'll start dishing out the Enlightenment and Wisdom for you apostatic fools.

Enlighten yourself with the wisdom of the English language first.

[Mohammed Atef]

Originally posted by voodoo:
ka-ching! you have been reported

I'm glad you get such a kick out of silencing those with whom you disagree, yet cannot counter with thoughtful debate. You're no better than Saddam whacking those school kids for graffiti.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
I'm glad you get such a kick out of silencing those with whom you disagree, yet cannot counter with thoughtful debate. You're no better than Saddam whacking those school kids for graffiti.

I welcome people I disagree with! Without them the political lounge wouldn't be very interesting now would it? I am opposed to:
1. name calling
2. trolling
3. abuse
4. not practicing what you preach
5. hateful posts
6. poisoning posts
7. you

Let's face it, after Zimphire you are the person I despise the most here. I know it is wrong but it feels so right!

[gorgonzola]

Since this thread is about how much of a lack of a thread this thread is, how about I lock it and we try again without

(a) name-calling
(b) personal attacks
(c) aggression
(d) nonsense posts

?

I mean, chill. It's the Political Lounge. Stop taking everything so seriously.