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lil'babykitten · 07:07 AM

A suicide bombing on a housing complex in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, has caused heavy casualties.

Two people have been confirmed dead but diplomats believe many more were killed in the blast which happened at midnight (2100 GMT) on Saturday.

The manager of the compound, which houses mainly Arab foreign workers, said 100 people had been wounded, including many children.

Saudi officials say the attack bears the hallmarks of al-Qaeda.

"This is a crime against innocents which is in the style of al-Qaeda, it is an al-Qaeda operation," said a Saudi security source quoted by Reuters news agency.

The explosion came a day after the United States shut its diplomatic missions in Saudi Arabia after "credible evidence" of a threat and the UK embassy in Bahrain issued a similar warning.

Pay back for Saudi Arabia's recent crackdown on terrorist cells in the country?
And if certain people knew there was going to be an attack, why didn't they stop it?

Shaddim · Nov 9, 2003, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:

And if certain people knew there was going to be an attack, why didn't they stop it?

Knowing what will probably happen (ala. a snitch) and knowing exactly where and when it'll happen are different things. Seems they only had a day's notice. If they'd had more time to follow the leads and do further investigation they could have been more effective.

Mohammed Atef · Nov 9, 2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Pay back for Saudi Arabia's recent crackdown on terrorist cells in the country?

no. What it is, however, is the inevitable culmination of Saudi support for extremist and terrorist groups over the years. You see, they'd always bought off the opposition and domestic troublemakers, paying them to be quiet. meanwhile these losers and even members of the ruling family funneled WITH IMPUNITY millions into extremist and terrorist groups.

Now it's just coming back to bite them in the Wahhabist Behind. Bad for everyone, mind you, and I'm angered by the deaths of innocents, but it wasn't a surprise.

kvm_mkdb · Nov 9, 2003, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Pay back for Saudi Arabia's recent crackdown on terrorist cells in the country?

Most definitively not: not one victim was a westerner or even a Saudi. Where were those foreigners employed? That could explain something. So far this bombing doesn't seem to make any sense.

Spliffdaddy · Nov 9, 2003, 03:39 PM

um.

NONE of them make sense.

At least to decent folk.

kvm_mkdb · Nov 9, 2003, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
um.

NONE of them make sense.

At least to decent folk.

Of course.

But that is not what I meant.

C'mon you can do better.

Spliffdaddy · Nov 9, 2003, 04:04 PM

No, it's exactly what you meant.

Obviously you understood enough bombings that you feel it warrants mentioning when you come across one you don't understand.

right?

kvm_mkdb · Nov 9, 2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
No, it's exactly what you meant.

Obviously you understood enough bombings that you feel it warrants mentioning when you come across one you don't understand.

right?

Wrong.

Even the most heinous act is committed for a reason. Even the most despicable terrorist will not risk or sacrifice his life if the act has no meaning.

That doesn't mean 'to understand a bombing' - it's about motive. I have yet to see either a motive or goal for this one.

�Comprende?

Spheric Harlot · Nov 9, 2003, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
um.

NONE of them make sense.

At least to decent folk.

Um.

The WTC attack, IMO made perfect sense. It was utterly vile and despicable, and an inhumane thing to do, but it was a highly effective means of achieving pretty much exactly what has come to pass.

-s*

sanity assassin · Nov 9, 2003, 04:36 PM

Looks like the CIA have been busy in old Saudi Arabia, again. George (cattle brain) Bush jstu must send in some troops to 'rprotect' those Saudis, oh and the oil fields.

Muslim terrorists blowing up a place full of Muslims? Doubt it.

swrate · Nov 9, 2003, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Um.

The WTC attack, IMO made perfect sense. It was utterly vile and despicable, and an inhumane thing to do, but it was a highly effective means of achieving pretty much exactly what has come to pass.

-s*

who ever is doing it whants the Saudi family under his boots.

Mohammed Atef · Nov 9, 2003, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by swrate:
who ever is doing it whants the Saudi family under his boots.

no, they want the House of Saud toppled, not jackbooted.

Mohammed Atef · Nov 9, 2003, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
The WTC attack, IMO made perfect sense. It was utterly vile and despicable, and an inhumane thing to do, but it was a highly effective means of achieving pretty much exactly what has come to pass.

so, so wrong. Everything that the attacked hoped to achieve has been a failure to date. Instead of uniting Muslims against the Great Satan and apostatic West, the United States has gone on a full-blown mission of its own, ridding the world of two dictatorial, tyrannical regimes that brutalised, murdered, and tortured tens of millions of Muslims. Additionally, it has been the harbinger of Death and Incarceration for terrorist trash worldwide, and its support to other nations has allowed them to act to purge these worthless viral elements from their societies.

Whatever your queda or kavkaz.org email newsletters tell you, don't be so ready to spout it back at us: you're just gorging your left-wing cakehole with the same ol' played-out, creeping Kudzu Intellectualism.

sanity assassin · Nov 9, 2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
so, so wrong. Everything that the attacked hoped to achieve has been a failure to date. Instead of uniting Muslims against the Great Satan and apostatic West, the United States has gone on a full-blown mission of its own, ridding the world of two dictatorial, tyrannical regimes that brutalised, murdered, and tortured tens of millions of Muslims. Additionally, it has been the harbinger of

You are ever so wrong. go into any Mosque, anyone in the world, adn you won't find any sympathy for what the US is doing in Muslim countries. Even Muslims who were directly oppressed by Saddam and his ilk, won't support the US in their overall game. Yes, they are glad Saddam is gone, but hell no they aren't even remotely stupid enough to think the US is there for their benefit, in the long term.

I dare ye, go into a Mosque and find out.

Mohammed Atef · Nov 9, 2003, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by sanity assassin:
You are ever so wrong. go into any Mosque, anyone in the world, adn you won't find any sympathy for what the US is doing in Muslim countries. Even Muslims who were directly oppressed by Saddam and his ilk, won't support the US in their overall game. Yes, they are glad Saddam is gone, but hell no they aren't even remotely stupid enough to think the US is there for their benefit, in the long term.

I dare ye, go into a Mosque and find out.

those folks are so engrossed in their antisemitism and hatred of the United States for plenty of other reasons that even without the Iraq issue the feelings would be there. And I don't see how that relates one bit to the 9/11 attacks.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 10, 2003, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
so, so wrong. Everything that the attacked hoped to achieve has been a failure to date. Instead of uniting Muslims against the Great Satan and apostatic West, the United States has gone on a full-blown mission of its own, ridding the world of two dictatorial, tyrannical regimes that brutalised, murdered, and tortured tens of millions of Muslims. Additionally, it has been the harbinger of Death and Incarceration for terrorist trash worldwide, and its support to other nations has allowed them to act to purge these worthless viral elements from their societies.

I believe that full-scale world-wide Jihad is one of the primary aims of the 9/11 attacks. George W. Bush was more than happy to comply, even calling his war a "crusade".

Americans' freedoms have been curtailed, their bodies are being shipped home from Iraq, and the administration is probably considering invading a couple more Islamic nations in the Middle East, making *EVEN MORE* enemies among Muslim nations and elsewhere.

Also, the US have made total fools of themselves by not achieving their only *stated* goals, namely the capture or death of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, and the discovery of WMD in Iraq. Not one of those things has happened.

How is ANY of this NOT in the interest of al Qaeda?

Whatever your queda or kavkaz.org email newsletters tell you, don't be so ready to spout it back at us: you're just gorging your left-wing cakehole with the same ol' played-out, creeping Kudzu Intellectualism.

You have *no* idea who I am or what I read.

Or how much I wish you pea-brained John-Waynesque perception of world affairs were even remotely true.

-s*

Mohammed Atef · Nov 10, 2003, 01:08 AM

you're working from the present time backwards to 9/11 and before, projecting your own deep hatreds of the United States into 'goal's of Al Queda, as if it's some Master Plan that has succeeded in getting the US to invade Iraq. You're spreading the Peanut Butter of your Overly Fermented Ideology too thin onto the Stale Slices of Moldy Ideas.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 10, 2003, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
those folks are so engrossed in their antisemitism and hatred of the United States for plenty of other reasons that even without the Iraq issue the feelings would be there. And I don't see how that relates one bit to the 9/11 attacks.

those folks are so engrossed in their antisemitism and hatred of the United States that they are more than prepared to die for anything that causes harm to the United States.

How does that NOT relate to the 9/11 attacks?

-s*

Spheric Harlot · Nov 10, 2003, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
you're working from the present time backwards to 9/11 and before, projecting your own deep hatreds of the United States

My WHAT!?

Dude...you are so beyond "off" that even your personal attacks have gone from "funny" to "ludicrous".

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
into 'goal's of Al Queda, as if it's some Master Plan that has succeeded in getting the US to invade Iraq. You're spreading the Peanut Butter of your Overly Fermented Ideology too thin onto the Stale Slices of Moldy Ideas.

Where did I say that *Iraq* specifically was one of the goals?

I believe I said "full-scale global Jihad".

And Dubya certainly has been doing his best to keep up his side of the deal.
See http://www.newamericancentury.com for details.

-s*

Mohammed Atef · Nov 10, 2003, 01:29 AM

can't connect to the site's server.

I'm sure it's just some propagandising filth you use to fill up your Overflowing Wicker Basket of Tired Ideological Musings.

Mohammed Atef · Nov 10, 2003, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
those folks are so engrossed in their antisemitism and hatred of the United States that they are more than prepared to die for anything that causes harm to the United States.

then my only wish is that they don't procreate before the US has the chance to dispatch their terrorist, Jihadist carcasses into the Afterlife.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 10, 2003, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
can't connect to the site's server.

I'm sure it's just some propagandising filth you use to fill up your Overflowing Wicker Basket of Tired Ideological Musings.

My apologies.

it's http://www.newamericancentury.org , and I'm surprised you don't know it.

Yes, I use that filth to fill up my Overflowing Wicker Basket of Tired Ideological Musings. Contrasting with opposing viewpoints can be useful. Unfortunately, it rarely is on these boards. Pure personal attacks do not a debate make. Sorry to burst that bubbleof yours.

-s*

sanity assassin · Nov 10, 2003, 06:26 AM

the Saudi citizens think it was the CIA.

http://www.wwviews.com/articles/101103/riyadh.html

sanity assassin · Nov 10, 2003, 06:28 AM

Latest news being that Al-Qaeeda are now targeting the Royal family themselves, source? CIA. Wonder if they'll be killed off, and surprise surprise, teh US might just have to go into Saudi Arabia, to keep the peace, as they say.
One more foothold in the Mid_East?

eklipse · Nov 10, 2003, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
you're working from the present time backwards to 9/11 and before, projecting your own deep hatreds of the United States into 'goal's of Al Queda, as if it's some Master Plan that has succeeded in getting the US to invade Iraq. You're spreading the Peanut Butter of your Overly Fermented Ideology too thin onto the Stale Slices of Moldy Ideas.

Spreading the what? of the what? too thinly onto what?

sanity assassin · Nov 10, 2003, 07:21 AM

BBC report says Israel faked Al-Qaeeda presence in Gaza.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2550513.stm

sanity assassin · Nov 10, 2003, 07:24 AM

According to this report, Al-Qaeeda have infiltrated all of the Saudi armed forces, except for the Air Force. Source? CIA.
Looks like Saudi is becoming an unstable nation, must get the pig-dog CIA to get the US forces to protect them.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...16/wsaud16.xml

sanity assassin · Nov 10, 2003, 07:27 AM

More sources on the Israeli fake Al-Qaeeda network.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/02/1572495.php

Lerkfish · Nov 10, 2003, 07:33 AM

I honestly do not understand why some people are given free license to attack other members as part of their "persona".
I bump up threads without attacking anyone, and I get two warning notes from demonhood and think insane.....

curious. I WOULD report certain people, except that I know the mods are in favor of abuse of other members as long as they're liberals, so what's the point?

back on topic:

Its clear, as I've been saying since before the invasion of Iraq, that the neocons have plotted to reshape the middle east into a more western-palatable lapdog wonderland.
I don't know the source of this latest bombings, but I'm sure the neocons will take advantage of the situation, whether they caused it or not.

Mohammed Atef · Nov 10, 2003, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
I honestly do not understand why some people are given free license to attack other members as part of their "persona".

curious. I WOULD report certain people, except that I know the mods are in favor of abuse of other members as long as they're liberals, so what's the point?

hah! liberals attack nonstop, or sometimes my older nemeses like voodoo sweep in to snipe, report their manufactured victimhood of abuse, and flitter away.

I am not given free license to attack anyone. I attack your ideas and ramblings as any man with a mission from Allah must do. The liberal infestation of Intellectual Apostasy runs deep here.

The PolWar lounge can be a rough place. At any given moment 80% of the posts and threads are anti-America, anti-Bush, pro-liberal, pro-Palestinian, insane linfidel cockstruts, or impotent regurgitations of left-wing, antisemetic, antiamerican propaganda.

I am as I have always been: a Balancing Force, seeking to save your nearly damned souls. Pulled by Allah from my burning tomb in Hell for my crimes against the Great Satan, and set to work here at MacNN, striving for your Enlightenment.

eklipse · Nov 10, 2003, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Mohammed Atef:
I am as I have always been: a Balancing Force, seeking to save your nearly damned souls. Pulled by Allah from my burning tomb in Hell for my crimes against the Great Satan, and set to work here at MacNN, striving for your Enlightenment.

Mohammed Atef
Baninated
Posts: 132

And thus, the Admins are once again able to bring balance to the force.

Spliffdaddy · Nov 10, 2003, 10:15 PM

You don't exactly brighten the place up, yourself.

einmakom · Nov 11, 2003, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by sanity assassin:
BBC report says Israel faked Al-Qaeeda presence in Gaza.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2550513.stm

The BBC does NOT say that. The BBC simply reports on the allegations.

It is the indymedia story which goes further to claim that the allegations are true.

Any good news reporter will be able to see the disctinction immediately. Of the two links, the BBC is far more credible than indymedia in this case.

Does it make it true by necessity? No, it is simply an allegation, not truth. Reporting it as such is intellectually dishonest.

eklipse · Nov 11, 2003, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
You don't exactly brighten the place up, yourself.

I don't try to or profess to.

Spliffdaddy · Nov 11, 2003, 09:29 AM

good thing.