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Just wanted to get some opinions from you guys about this article and what it talks about. I'll point out some things in the article that I think a important to discuss and clarify, but feel free to ask anything that you want about this project and other aspects relating to this.
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See - right there - that's what you get for voting. A government that'll go ahead and do what it pleases, populace be hanged.
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Guardian article  ........all lies.....there is no dam.....Iceland doesn't really exist.......stop being anti-Semitic......
Seriously though, the article doesn't really explain why the Icelandic government needs or wants a super-massive dam - one must assume they have one hell of a sweet deal with Alcoa.
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Well a $1bn dollar dam that is going to power a factory in the Eastern fjords of Iceland is one way of getting jobs and money into the country. It is the quick and dirty way.
This is basically an election promise to the East fjords. However the people living in the East fjords are only about 10 000 and the most of the remaining 280 000 people don't want this shait on the country.
It is a sad thing indeed and all biologists I know (except Logic  ) agree that it is an abyssmally stupid thing to do to the Icelandic highlands.
A big F U to nature! Thank you!
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Originally posted by voodoo:
Well a $1bn dollar dam that is going to power a factory in the Eastern fjords of Iceland is one way of getting jobs and money into the country. It is the quick and dirty way.
This is basically an election promise to the East fjords. However the people living in the East fjords are only about 10 000 and the most of the remaining 280 000 people don't want this shait on the country.
It is a sad thing indeed and all biologists I know (except Logic ) agree that it is an abyssmally stupid thing to do to the Icelandic highlands.
A big F U to nature! Thank you!
welcome to our nightmare. Similar things are happening here, albeit on a larger scale, quantity-wise.
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It's crazy, that Icelandic government!
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Originally posted by Sven G:
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It's crazy, that Icelandic government!
 Right on, Obelix!!
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From the Article:
The government's utilitarian attitude would make more sense if the dam project was in any sense viable. Its rationale is that the dam and smelter will revitalise the local economy by creating jobs in the eastern fjords and reversing the current depopulation trend. But the area has little unemployment, and few Icelandic youngsters would be tempted by the harsh conditions of the highland construction site or one of Alcoa's 400 or so jobs. The two existing smelters in Iceland have been obliged to import cheap foreign labour from eastern Europe. The environmental damage caused by both smelter and dam looks set to prompt a further exodus.
I'm not quite sure how the government's attitude can be regarded as utilitarian. Utilitarianism is based on the principle of 'the greatest happiness for the greatest number'. Since there is much opposition to the plans to build this dam and the area it is supposed to be revitalising is not actually in need of much revitalising, who exactly is going to be happy with this? certainly not those poor Icelandic owls!
The author of the article is obviously not in favour of the plans, and the story is slanted to that end. Are there actually any positives to this?
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Positives...
None that I can think of, perhaps Logic or Hugi can offer some positive POVs on the subject.
This project isn't going to revitalize the dying eastern fjords settlements. The thing is that even if there isn't much unemployment in rural Iceland there isn't any future there either. It is the fact that the young people are fleeing coutriside that is the problem. This smelter is not the answer. Everybody is going to Reykjavík. Or abroad.
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Well, when governments sacrifice wilderness in the name of "progress" its always a tough decision.
But doing so for some foreign mulitnational just seems like the worst kind of corruption.
I mean, America did a lot of dam building, but at least they were domestic infastructure projects! I can't even imagine doing it to benefit a single corporation at the expense of everyone else.
Absolutely outrageous. I certainly hope Icelanders absolutely butcher (politically) the government responsible for such an outrage. Not to mention stopping it dead in its tracks.
Maybe its time to bury the hatchet with Greenpeace and get some of their monkey-wrenchers on this?
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