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According to the Boston Globe, Republican staff in the US Senate have been spying on the Democartic Senators for over half a year, by means of an electronic break in. (The Democrats were probably using Win NT, yuk yuk yuk). Although an investigation has begun, I am willing to bet that this will be as squashed and delayed as the Plame leak was.
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Bush has, not surprisingly, expressed absolutely no concern over the matter. I think they're still worried about Watergate. Hillary must be extatic.
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Well, if the 9/11 probe is any barometer on how Bush will react, we can expect him to try an appoint Nixon to head it, then refuse to release documents, and then refuse to let them finish the job.
Oh, and we can expect a complete and total pass by the "liberal" media.
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Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
Well, if the 9/11 probe is any barometer on how Bush will react, we can expect him to try an appoint Nixon to head it, then refuse to release documents, and then refuse to let them finish the job.
Oh, and we can expect a complete and total pass by the "liberal" media.

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What's amazingly ironic is that this might in fact violate the cyberterrorism clause of the PATRIOT Act!
Expect the Rethugs to claim that it's the Democrat's fault for not securing their servers. True, they should have been more careful. But just because I leave my door open doesn't mean anyone who burglarizes my house is innocent.
I hope the media (what's left of it) gets ahold of this story.
Email the major news outlets and tell them to look into it! This cannot die like the "Plame Affair" did.
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Anyone know who Deep Throat was?
I think I know based on a grea story in the Smithsonian and a class of journalism students.
Interesting read.
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Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Anyone know who Deep Throat was?
Bob Novak.
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The Plame Affair is still simmering slowly. Ex-CIA Aides Ask For Leak Inquiry by Congress
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"The disclosure of Ms. Plame's name was an unprecedented and shameful event in American history and, in our professional judgment, has damaged U.S. national security, specifically the effectiveness of U.S. intelligence-gathering using human sources," the group wrote in the two-page letter.
In a telephone interview, Mr. Johnson, who described himself as a registered Republican who voted for President Bush, said he and other former intelligence officers had been discussing the idea of a letter for months and decided to go forward with it because of a lack of evidence of progress in the Justice Department investigation.
"For this administration to run on a security platform and allow people in the administration to compromise the security of intelligence assets, I think is unconscionable," Mr. Johnson said.
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In the letter, the former officers called on Congress to act "for the good of the country" and said it was time to "send an unambiguous message that the intelligence officers tasked with collecting or analyzing intelligence must never be turned into political punching bags."
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Originally posted by zachs:
Expect the Rethugs to claim that it's the Democrat's fault for not securing their servers.
Did you read the article? The suspected thief, Manuel Miranda, says exactly that:
"There appears to have been no hacking, no stealing, and no violation of any Senate rule," Miranda said. "Stealing assumes a property right and there is no property right to a government document. . . . These documents are not covered under the Senate disclosure rule because they are not official business and, to the extent they were disclosed, they were disclosed inadvertently by negligent [Democratic] staff."
At least Orrin Hatch had the decency to express outrage. I doubt he'll have much company.
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Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
Well, if the 9/11 probe is any barometer on how Bush will react, we can expect him to try an appoint Nixon to head it, then refuse to release documents, and then refuse to let them finish the job.
Oh, and we can expect a complete and total pass by the "liberal" media.
Nixon? No wonder they won't get any answers if they appoint a dead man! I thought it was the son-of-a-bitch Kissinger Bush appointed to look into 9/11? Which is who I guess you meant.
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Originally posted by Simon X:
Nixon? No wonder they won't get any answers if they appoint a dead man! I thought it was the son-of-a-bitch Kissinger Bush appointed to look into 9/11? Which is who I guess you meant.
I presume he was making a joke, which you took for a serious comment.
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Originally posted by Lerkfish:
I presume he was making a joke, which you took for a serious comment.
Oh. Maybe. Or a mistake. Kissinger, the power behind Nixon's thrown. 
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Originally posted by Simon X:
Oh. Maybe. Or a mistake. Kissinger, the power behind Nixon's thrown.
It was a joke. Kissinger for the 9/11 probe, so Nixon for the "watergate II" probe.....
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Originally posted by Nonsuch:
Did you read the article? The suspected thief, Manuel Miranda, says exactly that:
Wait? It was Manny Miranda? OMG! I know him. He's a psycho. He's one of those people who never quite grew up. Even though he graduated in 1980, he runs this crazy right wing off campus magazine called The Georgetown Academy. They used to publish juvenile attacks on me when I ran the undergrad gay and lesbian club at Georgetown.
Believe me, this explains a lot.
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Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey:
Wait? It was Manny Miranda? OMG! I know him. He's a psycho. He's one of those people who never quite grew up. Even though he graduated in 1980, he runs this crazy right wing off campus magazine called The Georgetown Academy. They used to publish juvenile attacks on me when I ran the undergrad gay and lesbian club at Georgetown.
Believe me, this explains a lot.
In that case, I think I speak for all of us when I officially declare you the MacNN Delegate to this weekend's Kick-Manny-In-The-Crotch Conference.
I trust that you'll represent us honorably and vigorously.

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Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
In that case, I think I speak for all of us when I officially declare you the MacNN Delegate to this weekend's Kick-Manny-In-The-Crotch Conference.
I trust that you'll represent us honorably and vigorously.
I won't go alone, but I'll meet any who want to join me at The Tombs. He's always there with his Sophomore friends. 
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Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey:
I won't go alone, but I'll meet any who want to join me at The Tombs. He's always there with his Sophomore friends.
Geez, I haven't been to The Tombs in years! That was a fun, if hot, summer I spent ata GTown! I really should visit DC again before I graduate from college here in Philly. Hmmmm...
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Why would someone like that be working in the Senate majority leader's office?
Reached at home, Miranda said he is on paternity leave; Frist's office said he is on leave "pending the results of the investigation" -- he denied that any of the handwritten comments on the memos were by his hand and said he did not distribute the memos to the media. He also argued that the only wrongdoing was on the part of the Democrats -- both for the content of their memos, and for their negligence in placing them where they could be seen.
"There appears to have been no hacking, no stealing, and no violation of any Senate rule," Miranda said. "Stealing assumes a property right and there is no property right to a government document. . . . These documents are not covered under the Senate disclosure rule because they are not official business and, to the extent they were disclosed, they were disclosed inadvertently by negligent [Democratic] staff."
What a jackass.
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I believe this glitch is called a trojan horse.
Democrates must be running Windows. Bah!
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Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
June 2001: 132,047,000 employed
June 2003: 129,839,000 employed
2.21 million jobs were LOST after 2 years of Bush Tax Cuts.
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Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Anyone know who Deep Throat was?
I think I know based on a grea story in the Smithsonian and a class of journalism students.
Interesting read.
Diane Sawyer
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Originally posted by hyteckit:
Democrates must be running Windows. Bah!
Democrates? Who's that; some ancient Greek politician?
"We're going to Olympia and Sparta and Corinth, and we're going to Thebes and Sikyon and Argos and Delphi. And then we're going to Athens, to take back the Areopagus! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

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Originally posted by BRussell:
What a jackass.
I'm more disturbed by the contents of the memos accessed.
The scandal also keeps attention on the memo contents, which demonstrate the influence of liberal interest groups in choosing which nominees Democratic senators would filibuster. Other revelations from the memos include Democrats' race-based characterization of Estrada as "especially dangerous, because . . . he is Latino," which they feared would make him difficult to block from a later promotion to the Supreme Court.
Maybe now the Democrats will consider password protecting their folder on the congressional network, because I sure as hell know that they won't be changng their tactics anytime soon.
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Originally posted by spacefreak:
I'm more disturbed by the contents of the memos accessed.
Of course you are. That's why you don't see it as a crime to intercept them.
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Wonderful. Dirty tricks -and dirty hands- exposed all around, it seems. The most fitting thing would be to throw the perpetrator of these acts in jail, but also disseminate the memos as far and wide as possible.
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Originally posted by Millennium:
Wonderful. Dirty tricks -and dirty hands- exposed all around, it seems. The most fitting thing would be to throw the perpetrator of these acts in jail, but also disseminate the memos as far and wide as possible.
only if you can also disseminate all the private memos of the republican strategists at the same time.
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Originally posted by Millennium:
Democrates? Who's that; some ancient Greek politician?
"We're going to Olympia and Sparta and Corinth, and we're going to Thebes and Sikyon and Argos and Delphi. And then we're going to Athens, to take back the Areopagus! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!
Thanks for that. The first deep belly laugh of the day. 
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