[John C. Smith]

The election is coming up fast, YOU will be the one to decide. Who wins on the 'Crat side- DOCTOR Dean who is known for shrieking, or Mr. Kerry who will soon be known as Botox Kerry?

And, does the winner have a chance against President Bush? You decide 2004.

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by John C. Smith:
The election is coming up fast, YOU will be the one to decide. Who wins on the 'Crat side- DOCTOR Dean who is known for shrieking, or Mr. Kerry who will soon be known as Botox Kerry?

And, does the winner have a chance against President Bush? You decide 2004.

It doesn't matter who represents the Democrats
this time around. There is nobody who
can unseat President Bush.

I'm eagerly waiting for 2008. Now that
will be a very interesting election.

500th post!

[Face Ache]

Who gets in depends upon which version of reality gets presented to the people between now and then and whether the illusion holds.

[hyteckit]

I believe Kerry will be President in 2004.

[John C. Smith]

Originally posted by hyteckit:
I believe Kerry will be President in 2004.

Do you think that if the Botox rumours are true, he still has a chance at the presidency? I honestly don't think our country is ready for something like that.

[hyteckit]

If Kerry did use Botox, it will only increase his popularity with the female population.

[Evan_11]

Originally posted by hyteckit:
If Kerry did use Botox, it will only increase his popularity with the female population.

Why is that?

It certainly didn't help Axl Rose.

Women don't want metrosexuals. This is a myth being perpetuated by the media.

Kerry will only win if troops are still dieing over in Iraq come November.

[maxelson]

Originally posted by John C. Smith:
The election is coming up fast, YOU will be the one to decide. Who wins on the 'Crat side- DOCTOR Dean who is known for shrieking, or Mr. Kerry who will soon be known as Botox Kerry?

And, does the winner have a chance against President Bush? You decide 2004.

Your language is less than subtle. THe blunt tool of an amateur. If that is the best you can do against what you obviously consider your opponents, well, I pity you, because, DAMN. As if there weren't legitimate complaints about both candidates, you gotta bring it down to aesthetics. Good for you. You are a typical American.
Stick tight with Mr Rove. Oh! Look! I see you have Evan with you. BIG shocker there. You two should work well together. Perhaps you should create your own pol forum where you may discuss politics on your own... uh... level. Over there. At the kiddie table.
Friggin laughable and pitiful, the both of you.
You do your party proud, I'm sure.

[maxelson]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
It doesn't matter who represents the Democrats
this time around. There is nobody who
can unseat President Bush.

I'm eagerly waiting for 2008. Now that
will be a very interesting election.

500th post!

Once again with the crystal ball. Calling an election NO ONE can call. No matter the party. C'mon, ghost. That serves no one. YOu know as well as I that this will be just as close as the last one.

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by maxelson:
Your language is less than subtle. THe blunt tool of an amateur. If that is the best you can do against what you obviously consider your opponents, well, I pity you, because, DAMN. As if there weren't legitimate complaints about both candidates, you gotta bring it down to aesthetics. Good for you. You are a typical American.
Stick tight with Mr Rove. Oh! Look! I see you have Evan with you. BIG shocker there. You two should work well together. Perhaps you should create your own pol forum where you may discuss politics on your own... uh... level. Over there. At the kiddie table.
Friggin laughable and pitiful, the both of you.
You do your party proud, I'm sure.

I believe Mr. Smith is coming to us from the UK. I think he posting this to amuse himself, as seems to be his M.O.

[John C. Smith]

Originally posted by maxelson:
Your language is less than blablabla.
Friggin laughable and pitiful, the both of you.
You do your party proud, I'm sure.

I do care about the issues, I even have my own personal issues, and the reason I dislike Kerry is because his connection to BIG CATSUP. His pro-heinz stance is sickening.

[maxelson]

Well, TA, so we then just have a simple troll masquerading as satire? Still doesn't brighten the bulb. Thanks for the channel marker, tho.

[maxelson]

Originally posted by John C. Smith:
I do care about the issues, I even have my own personal issues, and the reason I dislike Kerry is because his connection to BIG CATSUP. His pro-heinz stance is sickening.

OK. THAT was funny. Critique publicly rescinded.

Hey, TA! Check out the "catsup"! You're right! I think he be a limey fruit!

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by maxelson:
OK. THAT was funny. Critique publicly rescinded.

Hey, TA! Check out the "catsup"! You're right! I think he be a limey fruit!

[Evan_11]

Originally posted by maxelson:
OK. THAT was funny. Critique publicly rescinded.

Hey, TA! Check out the "catsup"! You're right! I think he be a limey fruit!

Who's TA?

[Ayelbourne]

Originally posted by Evan_11:
Who's TA?

Tom Arnold?

[Evan_11]

Originally posted by maxelson:
Your language is less than subtle. THe blunt tool of an amateur. If that is the best you can do against what you obviously consider your opponents, well, I pity you, because, DAMN. As if there weren't legitimate complaints about both candidates, you gotta bring it down to aesthetics. Good for you. You are a typical American.
Stick tight with Mr Rove. Oh! Look! I see you have Evan with you. BIG shocker there. You two should work well together. Perhaps you should create your own pol forum where you may discuss politics on your own... uh... level. Over there. At the kiddie table.
Friggin laughable and pitiful, the both of you.
You do your party proud, I'm sure.

So if i WriTe liKe thiS iT wiLl maKe mE DAMB! i ThInK i'M a fUkiNG geNuIs.

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by maxelson:
Once again with the crystal ball. Calling an election NO ONE can call. No matter the party. C'mon, ghost. That serves no one. YOu know as well as I that this will be just as close as the last one.

No crystal balls here, mine are all steel.

I look at the weakness of the competition,
and they have too many problems to
overcome before the election so,
at this time, I don't see a
contendor to unseat
president Bush.

We'll see.

[Twilly Spree]

"Democratic voters are on the verge of marrying John Kerry."

- LAT

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...home-utilities

Congratulations Democrats!

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by Twilly Spree:
"Democratic voters are on the verge of marrying John Kerry."

Congratulations Democrats!

Kerry has always been the most "presidential." Chicks probably dig him. You can tell he's got a big schlong.

[maxelson]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
No crystal balls here, mine are all steel.

I look at the weakness of the competition,
and they have too many problems to
overcome before the election so,
at this time, I don't see a
contendor to unseat
president Bush.

We'll see.

The last line is your wisest.

[boots]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
No crystal balls here, mine are all steel.

I look at the weakness of the competition,
and they have too many problems to
overcome before the election so,
at this time, I don't see a
contendor to unseat
president Bush.

We'll see.

That is always the case early in the primaries. Doesn't matter which party is incumbent.

Remember this: The American Electorate has a very short memory. Once an opposition candidate is chosen, all these problems will be dealt with forthwith. As almost always happens.

What makes this election cycle different is that GW is THE most polarizing president EVER. There are fewer swing votes to be had this year. People are voting firmly along party lines this year.

Note that I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing, this is just an observation.

Sometimes, crystal (and steel) balls just show us a reflection of ourselves. One should be cautious not to over estimate that reflection.

[Lerkfish]

A wild card to consider is that even though I agree veteran (meaning experienced, not those with military service) voters will more likely vote along their own party lines, there are likely to be a larger influx of non-veteran voters that may or may not have a party affiliation, especially due to the polarizing nature of Bush's foreign policy.

The fat lady has definitely not finished singing, yet.

Even so, I foresee a much larger discrepancy between the electoral college tallies and the popular vote this time around.

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by boots:
That is always the case early in the primaries. Doesn't matter which party is incumbent.

Remember this: The American Electorate has a very short memory. Once an opposition candidate is chosen, all these problems will be dealt with forthwith. As almost always happens.

What makes this election cycle different is that GW is THE most polarizing president EVER. There are fewer swing votes to be had this year. People are voting firmly along party lines this year.

Note that I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing, this is just an observation.

Sometimes, crystal (and steel) balls just show us a reflection of ourselves. One should be cautious not to over estimate that reflection.

Truer words were never written.
In this thread.

[boots]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
A wild card to consider is that even though I agree veteran (meaning experienced, not those with military service) voters will more likely vote along their own party lines, there are likely to be a larger influx of non-veteran voters that may or may not have a party affiliation, especially due to the polarizing nature of Bush's foreign policy.

Acknowledged. I don't think we'll see that make a difference though: Dean has shown us in Iowa and New Hampshire that they aren't mobilizing. That was what he banked on in both places, and the new voters didn't show up.

Sad and discouraging, but true.

[Nonsuch]

Originally posted by boots:
Acknowledged. I don't think we'll see that make a difference though: Dean has shown us in Iowa and New Hampshire that they aren't mobilizing. That was what he banked on in both places, and the new voters didn't show up.

Sad and discouraging, but true.

I read that around 50% of the voters in Iowa were voting in a caucus/primary for the first time. The new voters showed up; they just didn't show up for Dean.

[Edit: the stat I saw was for Iowa; not sure how many New Hampshire voters were new.]

[phoenixboy]

i don't care who wins, as long as it's not the bushwhacker.

having said that, i really can't believe that he has the slightest chance of winning. between the neonazicons and the religious fruitcakes there aren't enough votes to stand a chance against those who completely hate him and the ones who are merely sick and tired of the cracker.

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by phoenixboy:
having said that, i really can't believe that he has the slightest chance of winning. between the neonazicons and the religious fruitcakes there aren't enough votes to stand a chance against those who completely hate him and the ones who are merely sick and tired of the cracker.

NEONAZICONS!

[vcutag]

Originally posted by Evan_11:
Why is that?

It certainly didn't help Axl Rose.

Women don't want metrosexuals. This is a myth being perpetuated by the media.

Kerry will only win if troops are still dieing over in Iraq come November.

John "Lurch" Kerry, a metrosexual? ::snort:: Now I've heard it all... Have you seen the man?

And they will be. There's no way we'll be out of there by November, unless we leave another Afghanistan behind us. As long as we've got troops there, they'll be taking hits.

[Spliffdaddy]

...and the American voters will, therefore, be reluctant to change the current leadership.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
...and the American voters will, therefore, be reluctant to change the current leadership.

you might be surprised.

[Evan_11]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
you might be surprised.

After you telling the world that you decorated your car like the Spidermobile, nothing surprises me.

[Evan_11]

Originally posted by phoenixboy:
i don't care who wins, as long as it's not the bushwhacker.

having said that, i really can't believe that he has the slightest chance of winning. between the neonazicons and the religious fruitcakes there aren't enough votes to stand a chance against those who completely hate him and the ones who are merely sick and tired of the cracker.

You live in a small world.

What's a neonazicon? Time to go outside and get some fresh air.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Evan_11:
After you telling the world that you decorated your car like the Spidermobile, nothing surprises me.

Lerk has got to be the coolest dad ever.

-s*

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by Evan_11:
You live in a small world.

What's a neonazicon? Time to go outside and get some fresh air.

You are you wanker.

If your not against 'em your one of 'em.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Lerk has got to be the coolest dad ever.

-s*

I already explained how the car decoration was for my kid. Whenever we go out as a family, when we ask which car he wants to go out in, "Spiderman car, dad!"

I have a great kid, btw. sharp as a tack, respectful and polite. I wish I could take credit it for it, but I believe that is the nature of his personality, regardless of my parenting skills.



(this off topic sidetrack brought to you by Evan_11 and the letters Q and Y)

[roger_ramjet]

Originally posted by boots:
... What makes this election cycle different is that GW is THE most polarizing president EVER...

This would be true if it was true but it's not. Not even close. Try again.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by roger_ramjet:
This would be true if it was true but it's not. Not even close. Try again.

hmmmm... so you DON"T think Bush has polarized the country? You think his presidency has brought republicans and democrats together in loving harmony?

hmmmm...you must not be paying much attention.

[vcutag]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
hmmmm... so you DON"T think Bush has polarized the country? You think his presidency has brought republicans and democrats together in loving harmony?

hmmmm...you must not be paying much attention.

This graph makes me wonder when Bush is going to haul Osama out of Gitmo and dust him off for the cameras: http://ramsites.net/~s2tagehr/gallupcharts2edit.gif

[Evan_11]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:



I have a great kid, btw. sharp as a tack, respectful and polite. I wish I could take credit it for it, but I believe that is the nature of his personality, regardless of my parenting skills.

Thank god he takes after his mother.

[roger_ramjet]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
hmmmm... so you DON"T think Bush has polarized the country? You think his presidency has brought republicans and democrats together in loving harmony?

hmmmm...you must not be paying much attention.

I don't remember very much loving harmony before Bush was elected, do you? But that's not my point. boots' claim is that GW is THE most polarizing president EVER. He's not - not even close. Now if you'll put your thinking cap on, I'm sure you'll figure out why boots' claim isn't true.

[chris v]

Originally posted by roger_ramjet:
I don't remember very much loving harmony before Bush was elected, do you? But that's not my point. boots' claim is that GW is THE most polarizing president EVER. He's not - not even close. Now if you'll put your thinking cap on, I'm sure you'll figure out why boots' claim isn't true.

Reagan? Nixon?

CV

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Evan_11:
Thank god he takes after his mother.

yes, truly. I thank God for my wonderful wife, and my son is the greatest blessing. I'm just about the luckiest guy on the planet.

but....I'm still not sure how that's relevant to this thread.

[roger_ramjet]

Originally posted by chris v:
Reagan? Nixon?

CV

Try Lincoln. Was this really such a puzzler?

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by chris v:
Reagan? Nixon?

CV

Calvin Coolidge? William Henry Harrison? McKinley?
Polk? Taft? Grant? Lincoln? Jefferson? Adams?
Ford?

oooooh! oooooh! how much do I get if I guess?

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by roger_ramjet:
Try Lincoln. Was this really such a puzzler?

How so? the secession was happening BEFORE he was president.

[voodoo]

I'm really looking forward to seeing Kerry vs. Bush. That's gonna be an allnighter for me

[John C. Smith]

the most polarizing president ever was John Major, duh

[chris v]

Originally posted by roger_ramjet:
Try Lincoln. Was this really such a puzzler?

Not really, I was just taunting you. go ahead and report abuse.

CV

[roger_ramjet]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
How so? the secession was happening BEFORE he was president.

And AFTER he was elected. And all the shooting happened AFTER he was sworn in. Just because Lincoln was on the right side of history that doesn't mean his wasn't a polarizing Presidency.