[olePigeon]

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,...w=wn_tophead_1

Essentially, he's going to make it so he can pick and choose specific scientists (no doubt with a considerable amount of compensation) that will give "professional opinions" to contradict current scientific popular theory and observation to help make more money at the expense of the environment and our health.

What an assh*le.

[nonhuman]

How would this be permanent? What stops the next president from undoing it?

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by nonhuman:
How would this be permanent? What stops the next president from undoing it?

Entirely possible, but when we will ever get a president who didn't become president without compensation from big business in exchange for political favors?

If it does get removed, it will only be from a Democratic president who removed it simply because a Republican put it in, not because it's unlawful.

[BlackGriffen]

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Entirely possible, but when we will ever get a president who didn't become president without compensation from big business in exchange for political favors?

If it does get removed, it will only be from a Democratic president who removed it simply because a Republican put it in, not because it's unlawful.

Try "immoral." Probably even "counter to public interest" would work.

As is often true, the law doesn't square with what one might expect.

BG

[Nonsuch]

I still think that the environment is a can't-miss issue for Democrats. Sure, most people don't consider themselves "tree-huggers" and don't sympathize with eco-extremists, but Bush's utter contempt for environmental regulations is so out of step with mainstream American feelings it's basically indefensible.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Nonsuch:
I still think that the environment is a can't-miss issue for Democrats. Sure, most people don't consider themselves "tree-huggers" and don't sympathize with eco-extremists, but Bush's utter contempt for environmental regulations is so out of step with mainstream American feelings it's basically indefensible.

everything Bush does is indefensible....yet, they still defend it tooth and nail.

[Y3a]

GOOD!!! Who wants to live forever?


Eat well,
Stay fit
and die anyway.

95% of the worlds population is vermin anyway. Jeez!

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
everything Bush does is indefensible....yet, they still defend it tooth and nail.

Remember... war is peace.

And drilling for oil in Alaska and deforesting national parks is good environmental policy.

Bush is going down in November. We have to show the world that we don't agree with what he has done. We have to redeem ourselves in the eyes of the world. I have heard Republicans say they want to be proud to be an American again.

To all of you reading this from outside the US. We are not our SuperBowl!!! We are not our pop stars. We are not our corporations. We are not our politicians.

[FeLiZeCaT]

Actually, Bush or not, we may all be heading that way.

This is also a very clever business move.

As we say in French, "Ce qui est rare est cher"

==> What is rare is worth more.

Then, environment will be a commodity and some people will cash in on private parks/reserve/resources.

Never will the term "Nature (P)reserve" will carry more meaning...

[Developer]

Originally posted by FeLiZeCaT:
This is also a very clever business move.

You are a very very sick person.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by FeLiZeCaT:
Actually, Bush or not, we may all be heading that way.

This is also a very clever business move.

As we say in French, "Ce qui est rare est cher"

==> What is rare is worth more.

Then, environment will be a commodity and some people will cash in on private parks/reserve/resources.

Never will the term "Nature (P)reserve" will carry more meaning...

actually, my limited french education translated that as " That which is rare is precious"... which has a more succinct meaning in terms of environlmentalism, even if I mentally translated it incorrectly.

[swrate]

what is rare is dear


what is worth more then life, life is precious.

and planets dont take too much stress, same as us
icydanger

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by GG Allin:
Remember... war is peace.

And drilling for oil in Alaska and deforesting national parks is good environmental policy.

Bush is going down in November. We have to show the world that we don't agree with what he has done. We have to redeem ourselves in the eyes of the world. I have heard Republicans say they want to be proud to be an American again.

To all of you reading this from outside the US. We are not our SuperBowl!!! We are not our pop stars. We are not our corporations. We are not our politicians.

Do we even own any National Parks after
Clinton.
Clinton went down on a Bush, is it wrong?

Seriously:

We don't have to redeem ouselves with the
rest of the World. I personally don't give a
flying F**k what they think.

And, we are the SUPERBOWL, Hollywood,
our Politicians. You think the rest of the
world is so much better than us?

You do know, you can leave right?

Question: What is stopping the Middle East
from just discontinuing from drilling oil?
THE REST OF THE WORLD NEEDS IT TOO.

I'd rather drill in Alaska than depend on the
Middle East for anything. Though, we do now
control ALL or most of the Oil in the world.

[FeLiZeCaT]

Thank you for the corrections; I truly appreciate.

;o))

To Developper:

I am not sure of how sick I am.

If you ever have the chance of watching the documentary "The Corporation", you might find out that the truth is not very far from what I wrote.

Very unfortunately...

To Ghost_flash:

I am not sure we need that much oil NOW. The rest of the world, or at least some of it is trying to save on some resources. The U.S. may not be the worst (I do not know the all facts) but the symbols carried by the US media does not show there is much care for this issue, unfortunately...

My conclusion is we ALL have something to do about it. Our needs of now should not be satisfied without a bit of care for the future.

Our kids will look upon us as a bunch of stupid and selfish forefathers for our lack of care and limited vision, regardless of the nation.

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
We don't have to redeem ouselves with the
rest of the World. I personally don't give a
flying F**k what they think.

And, we are the SUPERBOWL, Hollywood,
our Politicians. You think the rest of the
world is so much better than us?

You've shown that you are the Superbowl and Hollywood. You personify the show, the charade. THE JOKE. YOUR federal government is making US a joke.

I can't leave. I love America. And I intend to do my part to save it from you.

I'd rather find alternative sources of energy than drill in Alaska.

WE don't control or own anything. If WE owned it, WE wouldn't have to pay for it. Corporations own it thanks to OUR tax dollars. And WE still have to pay for it.

What is stopping the middle east from stopping drilling for oil? The U.S. military.

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by GG Allin:
You've shown that you are the Superbowl and Hollywood. You personify the show, the charade. THE JOKE. YOUR federal government is making US a joke.

I can't leave. I love America. And I intend to do my part to save it from you.

I'd rather find alternative sources of energy than drill in Alaska.

WE don't control or own anything. If WE owned it, WE wouldn't have to pay for it. Corporations own it thanks to OUR tax dollars. And WE still have to pay for it.

What is stopping the middle east from stopping drilling for oil? The U.S. military.

Ain't it GREAT!

I'm lovin it!
-McDonald's commercial exerpt, fair use.

[Developer]

Originally posted by FeLiZeCaT:
I am not sure of how sick I am.

Sorry, but destroying nature to make it "more precious for business reasons" is one of the sickest things I have ever heard. If greed is the yardstick for your ethics than you're a sick antisocial person.

[FeLiZeCaT]

Developper,

OK.. I get your meaning here. I wish you had read my other posts elesewhere!

I did say this with a lot of sarcasm; it appears this was not clear enough. I apologize for this.

For your information, I despize pretty much anything that has to do with commerce, and I do have this utopic dream of all human beings living at peace with the animal kingdom, in a cooperative way. I had the priviledge of working in environment and ecology and I believe this is something we should all be concerned for.

I do not have a car, live 10 minutes walk from work and my job is about improving everybody's life, which I love and I wish I could do better!

My sarcasm aimed in fact to this tendency that we turn pretty much anything into business.

The documentary The Corporation shows how extreme this can be; actually, we may find some solutions through the creation of Corporations devoted to the protection of Nature, which profits would not be financial, but rather, the survival of Life on this Earth.

I apologize if I triggered such emotions in you, and for the misunderstanding. Next time, I'll try to be more explicit in my communications.

[Nonsuch]

For the (hopefully) last time, people: there is not enough oil in ANWR to make drilling commercially worthwhile.

"The amount of economically recoverable oil resources from area 1002 depends strongly on the long-term market price of oil," write the authors. "Considering the prevailing range of prices over the past 15 years (from $15 to $25 a barrel, in 1996 dollars) yields a range of mean, fully risked, economically recoverable resources from 0 to 5.6 billion barrels."

Less than 6 billion barrels — at best — ain't squat. It wouldn't do a damn thing to "reduce our dependence on foreign oil," though I imagine Halliburton's execs wouldn't mind a nice fat contract that let them stay closer to home.

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by FeLiZeCaT:
Developper,

OK.. I get your meaning here. I wish you had read my other posts elesewhere!

I knew what you meant. Developer just hasn't followed your other posts. Or been defended by them like I have!

[Developer]

Originally posted by FeLiZeCaT:
I did say this with a lot of sarcasm;

I'm sorry. I didn't understand this. I have never read a post by you before, and there are some strange people posting here in this forum and they also often change their user name, so it's hard to distinguish what is sarcasm and what they mean serious.

[tie]

Originally posted by Nonsuch:
For the (hopefully) last time, people: there is not enough oil in ANWR to make drilling commercially worthwhile.

I'm not sure what your point is; we'd obviously have to protect hardworking American oil workers against the risk of there not being as much oil as we predicted.

[FeLiZeCaT]

quoted from tie:
I'm not sure what your point is; we'd obviously have to protect hardworking American oil workers against the risk of there not being as much oil as we predicted.
________________________________________________

Keep them SUVs going!

To Iraq! And Hell to bystanders and pedestrians!

I suppose, tie, that when you were a kid, and there was no cake left in your plate, it was OK to take it from your little sister...

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Ain't it GREAT!

I'm lovin it!
-McDonald's commercial exerpt, fair use.

My warning meant nothing.
You're dancing in quicksand.
Why don't you watch where you're wandering?
Why don't you watch where you're stumbling?
You're wading knee deep and going in.
And you may never come back again.
This bog is thick and easy to get lost in
when you're a stupid dumb ass belligerent f**ker.

I hope it sucks you down.

Wander in and wandering.

No one even invited you in.
But still you stumble in stumbling.
So suffocate
or get out while you can.

No one told you to come.

I hope it sucks you down.

-Tool "Swamp Song"

[Spliffdaddy]

There's a guy at work that wears a T-shirt that says 'Tool'. He wears it everyday. Same shirt.

[gadster]

He's not going to kill it off, silly™, he's going to sell it all back to you. Aren't you the lucky ones!

[GG Allin]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
There's a guy at work that wears a T-shirt that says 'Tool'. He wears it everyday. Same shirt.

Have a point. Now you know what his shirt means. You're a little late to the party. Isn't it funny that a guy who wears the same shirt everyday might have more of a clue than you?

[Evan_11]

Gee Gee we'll miss you!

[swrate]

Originally posted by Evan_11:
Gee Gee we'll miss you!

PP
?

This is getting out of hand. Is it a way of imposing another nick change?