[GG Allin]

This is a good one I think.

"... Nothing is more essential than that antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be avoided and that instead of them we should cultivate just and amicable feelings towards all. That nation which indulges towards another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave... It is a slave to its animosity, or to its affection - either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and interest. The nation urged by resentment and rage, sometimes compels the government to war, contrary to its own calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in this propensity and dons through passion what reason would forbid it at other times; it makes the animosity of the nations subservient to hostilbe projects which originate in ambition and other sisister motives."

Any other good quotes from our own leaders that might help enlighten us?

[gadster]

Originally posted by GG Allin:
<snip> should cultivate just and amicable feelings towards all. That nation which indulges towards another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave... It is a slave to its animosity, or to its affection <snip>

Ah, the good old days of "the olden days". We really should really reinstate the "habitual fondues", though. Whaddyareckon? It's just cheese for pete's sake, it's all good. Can't argue with that. I mean, where is the harm in it?

In the name of cheeses . . . etc

And yes, I have gone temporarily nuts. It's a long story. Mods, normal broadcasting will resume presently. Promise. Requesting slack.

[Face Ache]

The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, "A republic, if you can keep it."

Heh. Now they have a monarchy.

[Ayelbourne]

Originally posted by GG Allin:
Any other good quotes from our own leaders that might help enlighten us?

I find the following remarks ironic when contrasted with current U.S. foreign policy (they address the threat of European intervention in Latin America):

"We owe it, therefore, to candor and to the amicable relations existing between the United States and those [European] powers to declare that we should consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere as dangerous to our peace and safety"

"It is impossible that the allied [European] powers should extend their political system to any portion of either continent without endangering our peace and happiness; nor can anyone believe that our southern brethren [the new republics of Latin America], if left to themselves, would adopt it of their own accord._It is equally impossible, therefore, that we should behold such interposition in any form with indifference."

- excerpts from the Seventh Annual Message to Congress, December 2, 1823, by James Monroe, 5th President of the United States.

[gadster]

Originally posted by Ayelbourne:
I find the following remarks ironic when contrasted with current U.S. foreign policy (they address the threat of European intervention in Latin America):

"We owe it, therefore, to candor and to the amicable relations existing between the United States and those [European] powers to declare that we should consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere as dangerous to our peace and safety"

"It is impossible that the allied [European] powers should extend their political system to any portion of either continent without endangering our peace and happiness; nor can anyone believe that our southern brethren [the new republics of Latin America], if left to themselves, would adopt it of their own accord._It is equally impossible, therefore, that we should behold such interposition in any form with indifference."

- excerpts from the Seventh Annual Message to Congress, December 2, 1823, by James Monroe, 5th President of the United States.

Hmmm. Limburger.