[ghost_flash]

“Mr. Kerry, how did you feel when you learned that Vietnamese soldiers, when torturing John McCain, used your anti-war rhetoric as a means to break his resolve?”

“Mr. Kerry, if President Bush’s activities and whereabouts in 1972 are a legitimate subject of political discourse, is it also legitimate to discuss your Senatorial testimony in 1971, where you accused U.S. soldiers of mass-murdering and mass-raping Vietnamese civilians, as well as poisoning their food?”

“Mr. Kerry, should you die, which Senator do you think Theresa Heinz will marry next?”

“Mr. Kerry, how come it was wrong to bomb Libya when Republican Ronald Reagan was President, wrong to liberate Kuwait when Republican George Bush was President, and wrong to fund American troops in the Middle East when Republican George W. Bush was President—but Ok to bomb Iraq and Bosnia when Democrat Bill Clinton was President?”

“Mr. Kerry, if you were elected President in 2000, by 2004 would the Taliban have been deposed in Afghanistan, Saddam have been deposed in Iraq, Libya have abandoned its nuclear program, and Pakistan transformed from an ally of terrorists to an American ally?”

“Mr. Kerry, how come you never married Denise Rich or Joan Kroc?”

“Mr. Kerry, given that you told Tom Brokaw that the war on terrorism is ‘primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation,’ I’m wondering how intelligence and law enforcement will prevent al-Qaeda from gaining weapons of mass destruction from an outlaw regime?

“Mr. Kerry, do you regret your votes in the 1980s and 1990s to slash the budget of the CIA?”

“Mr. Kerry, what’s the deal with your hair?”

“Mr. Kerry, don’t you think it’s sad that so many aging Hollywood movie stars resort to Botox and hair dyes in a transparent effort to appear young?”

“Mr. Kerry, if you lose the 2004 election to President Bush, will you let Howard Dean write your concession speech?”

[Zimphire]

The last one.

[IceBreaker]

[voyageur]

You really care about Kerry's grooming habits and his wife's marital choices?

As to Vietnam, Kerry did what he felt was right in Vietnam, as did John McCain. Is there any doubt Vietnam was a huge, demoralizing blunder for the US? And sadly, atrocities were committed there by some US soldiers. Have you forgotten MyLai? If Kerry has the courage of his convictions, he will stand up for what he believes.

Too bad Bush has no record of any public stand on these matters.

I agree that asking Kerry about his voting record on Libya, Bosnia, and the rest is valuable.

Too bad Bush has no voting record at all on these matters.

[angaq0k]

Originally posted by voyageur:
You really care about Kerry's grooming habits and his wife's marital choices?

As to Vietnam, Kerry did what he felt was right in Vietnam, as did John McCain. Is there any doubt Vietnam was a huge, demoralizing blunder for the US? And sadly, atrocities were committed there by some US soldiers. Have you forgotten MyLai? If Kerry has the courage of his convictions, he will stand up for what he believes.

Too bad Bush has no record of any public stand on these matters.

I agree that asking Kerry about his voting record on Libya, Bosnia, and the rest is valuable.

Too bad Bush has no voting record at all on these matters.

Most of these questions are highly speculative anyway.

People should ask Bush what he would have done without 9/11...

[Krusty]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
“Mr. Kerry, how did you feel when you learned that Vietnamese soldiers, when torturing John McCain, used your anti-war rhetoric as a means to break his resolve?”

Really? they were actually quoting Kerry's testimony to McCain ? Or do you just mean anti-war rhetoric in general -- a war that most Americans disapproved of.

Originally posted by ghost_flash:

“Mr. Kerry, if President Bush’s activities and whereabouts in 1972 are a legitimate subject of political discourse, is it also legitimate to discuss your Senatorial testimony in 1971, where you accused U.S. soldiers of mass-murdering and mass-raping Vietnamese civilians, as well as poisoning their food?”

hmmm ... are you implying that his accusations are false ?? Or that he should've turned his head and said nothing if indeed he knew this was happening? It would be an absolute disgrace to the uniform to cover up this sort of behavior if a handful of soldiers were, in fact, guilty of carrying it out. If its the truth... do you think a soldier with a Bronze Star, Silver Star, and 3 Purple Hearts should lie about it to the US Senate?

Originally posted by ghost_flash:

“Mr. Kerry, how come it was wrong to bomb Libya when Republican Ronald Reagan was President, wrong to liberate Kuwait when Republican George Bush was President, and wrong to fund American troops in the Middle East when Republican George W. Bush was President—but Ok to bomb Iraq and Bosnia when Democrat Bill Clinton was President?”

I don't know ... why don't you look deeper into all of the events listed and see if you can what else makes the Bosnia War/Iraq issue in the 90's different from the others listed. Also, Kerry voted for the current Iraq conflict initially.

Originally posted by ghost_flash:

“Mr. Kerry, if you were elected President in 2000, by 2004 would the Taliban have been deposed in Afghanistan, Saddam have been deposed in Iraq, Libya have abandoned its nuclear program, and Pakistan transformed from an ally of terrorists to an American ally?”

Good questions. Too bad its impossible to answer since many of these issues sprang from an event (9/11) that may have went down completely differently with a different President in office (Maybe worse, maybe lesser, maybe not at all ...) It'd be just as appropriate to ask GW if he thinks the country would have a 500 billion dollar budget deficit if anyone in either party other than him had been elected.

Originally posted by ghost_flash:

“Mr. Kerry, given that you told Tom Brokaw that the war on terrorism is ‘primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation,’ I’m wondering how intelligence and law enforcement will prevent al-Qaeda from gaining weapons of mass destruction from an outlaw regime?

I'm wondering how this is relevant. How many places in the world could al-Qaeda get WMD from ? Most of al-Qaeda's suspected dealings for WMD have been with countries in eastern Europe (Chechnya, Bulgaria), Czechoslovakia, etc. - NOT Iraq. BTW, the opinion Kerry gave to Brokaw is the exact same opinion of Donald Rumsfeld who stated that greater law enforcement and intelligence gather activities were the key to combatting terrorism.

Originally posted by ghost_flash:

“Mr. Kerry, do you regret your votes in the 1980s and 1990s to slash the budget of the CIA?”

Probably does .. they've sure FUBAR'd some pretty important intel in the last 3 years, haven't they ? I wonder if the end of the cold war had something to do with those cuts as well since much of the CIAs focus was the former USSR for the preceding decades.

Originally posted by ghost_flash:

“Mr. Kerry, should you die, which Senator do you think Theresa Heinz will marry next?”

“Mr. Kerry, how come you never married Denise Rich or Joan Kroc?”

“Mr. Kerry, what’s the deal with your hair?”

“Mr. Kerry, don’t you think it’s sad that so many aging Hollywood movie stars resort to Botox and hair dyes in a transparent effort to appear young?”

“Mr. Kerry, if you lose the 2004 election to President Bush, will you let Howard Dean write your concession speech?”

[vmpaul]

The level of rhetoric around here has certainly taken a classy turn.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by vmpaul:
The level of rhetoric around here has certainly taken a classy turn.

Almost as classy as the Heinz-Kerrys themselves:

"When Teresa Heinz-Kerry arrived, she handed me a pin that read in the center 'Asses of Evil'"

"Noting my physical discomfort beside him in the backseat, Wade asks Kerry, 'Sir, have you ever considered getting a bigger car?' Kerry shoots back, 'No, but I have thought about cutting all your f***ing legs off at the knees.'"

"Did I expect George Bush to f*** it up as badly as he did?"

[chalk_outline]

Originally posted by angaq0k:
People should ask Bush what he would have done without 9/11...

Vacation in Crawford. Reflect on the years of being a drunk. Missing the good ol' days.

[typoon]

Here is a Question for Kerry.

Do you think it is appropriate for someone running for the presidency to use foul language on the campaign trail and on your website?

[xi_hyperon]

Originally posted by typoon:
Here is a Question for Kerry.

Do you think it is appropriate for someone running for the presidency to use foul language on the campaign trail and on your website?

Right, your poor virgin eyes. Next thing you know there will be a photo of Janet Jackson on his site! Give me a break.

I guess you better question Bush too!

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by typoon:
Here is a Question for Kerry.

Do you think it is appropriate for someone running for the presidency to use foul language on the campaign trail and on your website?

Where do you see profanity? I did a quick look and could find nothing, but if you are correct, you should post a link to where it is. I do believe that this is wrong and should be copied and brought to his attention, just after the media.

[ghost_flash]

Pathetic.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Almost as classy as the Heinz-Kerrys themselves:

"When Teresa Heinz-Kerry arrived, she handed me a pin that read in the center 'Asses of Evil'"

"Noting my physical discomfort beside him in the backseat, Wade asks Kerry, 'Sir, have you ever considered getting a bigger car?' Kerry shoots back, 'No, but I have thought about cutting all your f***ing legs off at the knees.'"

"Did I expect George Bush to f*** it up as badly as he did?"

Does he kiss his mom with that mouth?

[theolein]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Almost as classy as the Heinz-Kerrys themselves:

"When Teresa Heinz-Kerry arrived, she handed me a pin that read in the center 'Asses of Evil'"

"Noting my physical discomfort beside him in the backseat, Wade asks Kerry, 'Sir, have you ever considered getting a bigger car?' Kerry shoots back, 'No, but I have thought about cutting all your f***ing legs off at the knees.'"

"Did I expect George Bush to f*** it up as badly as he did?"

What I found most interesting about those links was the speculation that Kerry would choose John McCain as running mate. While I suppose the chances are slim, I know that if there was one thing that would genuinely make Karl Rove sh1t his pants, it is the spectre of John McCain coming back to haunt him for what he did to McCain in the 2000 Republican primaries.

Other than that, I suppose the rivers of hatred towards Kerry coming from the board's supposedly God fearing Christians on this board make me think that they really fear that Kerry might win the election.

I wonder if there will be an surge of far right wing terrorism in the US a la Timothy McVeigh if Kerry wins the election?

[theolein]

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
Right, your poor virgin eyes. Next thing you know there will be a photo of Janet Jackson on his site! Give me a break.

I guess you better question Bush too!

From the linked article:

"There's Adam Clymer -- major league asshole -- from the New York Times," Bush said.
"Yeah, big time," returned Cheney.

I am shocked, I tell you, just appalled that anyone could use such words.

[xi_hyperon]

Originally posted by theolein:
From the linked article:


I am shocked, I tell you, just appalled that anyone could use such words.

Don't forget this gem, a quote from Bush (at the '88 Republican Convention no less... in front of other people!), where he uses Bad Words™:

Though he's done a decent job of hiding it in this election cycle, Bush has been known to use salty language. At the Republican National Convention in 1988, he was asked by a Hartford Courant reporter about what he and his father talked about when they weren't talking about politics.


"P*ssy," Bush replied.

[vmpaul]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Almost as classy as the Heinz-Kerrys themselves:

"When Teresa Heinz-Kerry arrived, she handed me a pin that read in the center 'Asses of Evil'"

"Noting my physical discomfort beside him in the backseat, Wade asks Kerry, 'Sir, have you ever considered getting a bigger car?' Kerry shoots back, 'No, but I have thought about cutting all your f***ing legs off at the knees.'"

"Did I expect George Bush to f*** it up as badly as he did?"

I don't know what you're trying to do but you just proved my point again.

[typoon]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Where do you see profanity? I did a quick look and could find nothing, but if you are correct, you should post a link to where it is. I do believe that this is wrong and should be copied and brought to his attention, just after the media.

Here are some links of profanity he has used right from his own website
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/c...2002_0411.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/c...2002_0827.html "Kerry shoots back, "No, but I have thought about cutting all your ****ing legs off at the knees." Then he waves a hand at the green world..."

This is the language that we want used all the time by a candidate for President

[theolein]

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
Don't forget this gem, a quote from Bush (at the '88 Republican Convention no less... in front of other people!), where he uses Bad Words™:

Though he's done a decent job of hiding it in this election cycle, Bush has been known to use salty language. At the Republican National Convention in 1988, he was asked by a Hartford Courant reporter about what he and his father talked about when they weren't talking about politics.


"P*ssy," Bush replied

A man's kinda man.