[coolmacdude]

Well I know I am going to be flamed because this is a heavily pro-Kerry forum, but I don't really care.

Today Kerry leveled accusations at the Bush campaign of not providing adequate support for those fighting the War on Terror.

This in itself is highly audacious, considering that Bush has been the most vocal proponent of every operation in the War on Terror and for efforts that would go above and beyond even what we are doing now.

But he went even further, throwing in specifics such as an alleged shortage of body armor in Iraq. This when he opposed the spending bill that provided this and much more to our soldiers in the midst of a war.

Even discounting his previous reversal of views, can it get anymore hypocritical than this?

[daimoni]

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[itai195]

How is it audacious when the 'first responders' Bush claims to support are some of his most vocal critics? The 'War on Terror' starts at home, does it not? Why are we building fire stations in Baghdad and shutting down fire stations in Chicago?

[tie]

Originally posted by coolmacdude:
Today Kerry leveled accusations at the Bush campaign of not providing adequate support for those fighting the War on Terror.

This in itself is highly audacious, considering that Bush has been the most vocal proponent of every operation in the War on Terror and for efforts that would go above and beyond even what we are doing now.

Bush has been vocal, but you need to pay attention to his actions. He has diverted American resources away from the war on terror by attacking Iraq. He has deliberately looked the other way as Pakistan exports nuclear weapons to North Korea. He has let Saudi Arabia keep up business as usual. He has *not* taken out al-Qaeda. Failures all around.

[Zimphire]

Ah, armchair generals. Gotta love them.

This reminds me of a comic I saw in yesterday's paper. It had a pic of Bush holding what looked to be a toolbox of dirt. Behind him was a dump truck pouring mud on him with a donkey driving. The donking while doing this is telling Uncle Sam to "Watch out for Bush, he is really slinging the mud now" or some sort.

Yes the irony was funny. And it's the truth.

Kerry is ranting about Bush's "mud slinging" when Kerry has been slinging it 10x worse.

What a freaking hypocrite.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by coolmacdude:
Well I know I am going to be flamed because this is a heavily pro-Kerry forum,

Actually, I think it's fairly evenly divided.

It's just that most of the Bush-supporters can't argue their way out of a wet paper bag.

Which is only partly due to the fact that they only have weak arguments to rely upon.

-s*

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Actually, I think it's fairly evenly divided.

It's just that most of the Bush-supporters can't argue their way out of a wet paper bag.

Which is only partly due to the fact that they only have weak arguments to rely upon.

-s*

Actually it's ALMOST even. It just seems there are more liberals in here because they are louder and more obnoxious.

Post above for case example.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
It just seems there are more liberals in here because they are louder and more obnoxious.

Do I need to link to the Gibson guitar thread?

Do I really?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Do I need to link to the Gibson guitar thread?

Do I really?

Yes please do. You're a liberal right? It would be a GREAT example of what I was speaking of.

[gadster]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Do I need to link to the Gibson guitar thread?

Do I really?

[gadster]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yes please do. You're a liberal right? It would be a GREAT example of what I was speaking of.

Where's the 'groan' smiley?

[Zimphire]

[Orion27]

Can we please have the names of foreign heads of state who claim to support Kerry and
and the demise of Bush? Is it really none of our business as Kerry claims? Did he or did he not meet with or have conversations with these people in such a vein?

[registered_user]

Originally posted by Orion27:
Can we please have the names of foreign heads of state who claim to support Kerry and
and the demise of Bush? Is it really none of our business as Kerry claims? Did he or did he not meet with or have conversations with these people in such a vein?

I hear that Bush's intel provided that info.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

No - that was the "Zimphire-in-a-wet-paper-bag" smiley.

He wanted the "groan" smiley.

-s*

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Do I need to link to the Gibson guitar thread?

Do I really?

Why not?! It shows in that thread how many more attacked Zim, for other reasons than the thread topic. Shall I quote some of the anti-Jesus rhetoric for you from that thread?

Though you Spheric were among the top who revelled in attacking Zim, I find it quite in line with how your ilk do their character assasinations in these forums. It's been referred to the tag-team effect by moderators like Demonhood and others.

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Orion27:
Can we please have the names of foreign heads of state who claim to support Kerry and
and the demise of Bush? Is it really none of our business as Kerry claims? Did he or did he not meet with or have conversations with these people in such a vein?

I don't know the names, but I'm sure someone will post them when discovered.

Here is a little ditty by John Kerry:

“I’m an internationalist, I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.” - John Kerry - Harvard Crimson

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Why not?! It shows in that thread how many more attacked Zim, for other reasons than the thread topic. Shall I quote some of the anti-Jesus rhetoric for you from that thread?

Though you Spheric were among the top who revelled in attacking Zim, I find it quite in line with how your ilk do their character assasinations in these forums. It's been referred to the tag-team effect by moderators like Demonhood and others.

Which is why I told him to go ahead.

[ghost_flash]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...paign_kerry_dc

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...paign_kerry_dc

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=205792

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Why not?! It shows in that thread how many more attacked Zim, for other reasons than the thread topic. Shall I quote some of the anti-Jesus rhetoric for you from that thread?

Though you Spheric were among the top who revelled in attacking Zim, I find it quite in line with how your ilk do their character assasinations in these forums. It's been referred to the tag-team effect by moderators like Demonhood and others.

Is that so?

Read the first page again. After that, it centered more on Zimphire's embarrassing social ineptness, I agree. But there was ample cause for that.

skio killed the thread, but he did so single-handedly with off-topic madness.

-s*

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Is that so?

Read the first page again. After that, it centered more on Zimphire's embarrassing social ineptness, I agree. But there was ample cause for that.

skio killed the thread, but he did so single-handedly with off-topic madness.

-s*

You brought up the thread. It is a fact that if one is religous and admits it in any forum, they are attacked mercilessly on any number of unrelated issues. Even moderators get involved in the mess. It's sick.

[gadster]

Arrrrgh. Where's the . . . oh, there it is: <--more fun

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by gadster:
Arrrrgh. Where's the . . . oh, there it is:

[daimoni]

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[gadster]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:

Ah, tag team. Want me to go all WWF on yo' ass?

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by gadster:
Ah, tag team. Want me to go all WWF on yo' ass?

You can try. I'm not as easy of a target as Zim.

[Ayelbourne]

Originally posted by gadster:
Ah, tag team. Want me to go all WWF on yo' ass?

Gad, my friend, if it's going to be a battle of wits, at least make it a fair fight and just use half of yours.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Is that so?

Yes

Read the first page again. After that, it centered more on Zimphire's embarrassing social ineptness, I agree. But there was ample cause for that.

No

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by gadster:
Ah, tag team. Want me to go all WWF on yo' ass?

More like "The Wonder Twins"

<Jan> Form of a troll
<Zan> Form of a ice bridge

[gadster]

Originally posted by daimoni:
Nobody is allowed to disagree with me. Ever.

Or I will say that I'm religious, and that my ideas, if not the very foundations of my belief system... are being persecuted.

Yes, it's sick. But I have God on my side, and He will forgive me. And even you... you evil doer.

(we need a sanctimonious emoticon)

Luckily, they're easy to spot, the evil-doers. They're always skulking around, wringing their hands. That there is a dead give-away.

Shoot to kill, ask questions later. This technique becomes riskier the colder it gets, but it's still considered safe.

[Ayelbourne]

You know, this "supported by foreign leaders" business of Kerry's strikes me as rather bizarre. It's not particularly creditable behaviour for a candidate, but then, nothing about Kerry has impressed me as of yet.

[Ayelbourne]

Of course, President Bush is not exactly in a position to throw any stones about "backing up accusations with facts".

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Ayelbourne:
You know, this "supported by foreign leaders" business of Kerry's strikes me as rather bizarre. It's not particularly creditable behaviour for a candidate, but then, nothing about Kerry has impressed me as of yet.

"I'm not a virgin, I've had sex"

Oh yeah? what's her name

"Oh, she lives in Canada, you wouldn't know her"

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Ayelbourne:
You know, this "supported by foreign leaders" business of Kerry's strikes me as rather bizarre. It's not particularly creditable behaviour for a candidate, but then, nothing about Kerry has impressed me as of yet.

I'm quite impressed with Kerry. The same way I was impressed iwth Clinton, but just much less. Clinton is a pure genius at what he does. He can make anyone think they are liked by him. He really conveys that he "feels" their pain. How else can a honky like him have an office in Harlem?

Genius I tell you. Pure adulterated genius.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

Yes

No [/B]

This is the part where Spliffdaddy pulls out his patented "smackdown" thingy, isn't it?

Compelling.

[paully dub]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
How else can a honky like him have an office in Harlem?

I take it you haven't been to that part of Harlem.

[zigzag]

Originally posted by Ayelbourne:
You know, this "supported by foreign leaders" business of Kerry's strikes me as rather bizarre. It's not particularly creditable behaviour for a candidate, but then, nothing about Kerry has impressed me as of yet.

It's one of those strange things that everyone knows is true, but it can't be talked about for political reasons. It's no secret that a lot of foreign leaders dislike Bush's policies, so suggesting that Kerry just made it up is sorta stupid. On the other hand, if he wasn't prepared to name them - which he can't do for obvious reasons - he shouldn't have said it, even if it's true. It was also poor strategy on his part because now Bush can make him look like he's hiding something. Instead of making it personal to himself, he should have just said what everyone already knows - that much of the rest of the world is opposed to Bush (and no, the opposition isn't limited to terrorists and their appeasers).

As it turns out, the reporter who quoted him says he got it wrong - Kerry said "more leaders," not "foreign leaders." But Kerry's not disavowing the "foreign" idea, so for once he's sticking to something.

[zachs]

Originally posted by Ayelbourne:
You know, this "supported by foreign leaders" business of Kerry's strikes me as rather bizarre. It's not particularly creditable behaviour for a candidate, but then, nothing about Kerry has impressed me as of yet.

Just one thing though...Kerry never said anything about "foreign leaders" supporting him.

A BOSTON GLOBE reporter at the center of a growing controversy over comments made by John Kerry last week in Florida now claims he "screwed-up" -- and John Kerry never bragged how "foreign leaders" privately backed his presidential bid!

"I mistranscribed a key word," explains Patrick Healy, a political reporter for the BOSTON GLOBE who covered the event in a pool capacity.

"Listening to the audio recorder now, in the quiet of my house, I hear 'more leaders' and I am certain that 'more leaders' is what Senator Kerry said."

[itai195]

A BOSTON GLOBE reporter at the center of a growing controversy over comments made by John Kerry last week in Florida now claims he "screwed-up" -- and John Kerry never bragged how "more leaders" privately backed his presidential bid!

"I mistranscribed a key word," explains Patrick Healy, a political reporter for the BOSTON GLOBE who covered the event in a pool capacity.

"Listening to the audio recorder now, in the quiet of my house, I hear 'smore eaters' and I am certain that 'smore eaters' is what Senator Kerry said."

[Zimphire]

[TheMosco]

Originally posted by zachs:
Just one thing though...Kerry never said anything about "foreign leaders" supporting him.

The fark headline was the best:

Kerry said "more" leaders, not "foreign leaders." In other news, Bush said, "My mom does crunches for ab reduction," not "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction"

[vmpaul]

Originally posted by coolmacdude:

Today Kerry leveled accusations at the Bush campaign of not providing adequate support for those fighting the War on Terror.

In the above linked article, I loved this quote from Bush:

Bush told reporters, "If you're going to make an accusation in the course of a presidential campaign, you ought to back it up with facts."

Kettle meet pot.

But seriously, how did Kerry let himself get backed into this? Dumb move.

Can't we do better than these two clowns?

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by zachs:
Just one thing though...Kerry never said anything about "foreign leaders" supporting him.

Yet Kerry stands by the claim.

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry is not backing down from his claim that some foreign leaders privately support him against President Bush, dismissing suggestions by the White House that he is lying if he is not willing to identify the leaders.

"I'm not making anything up at all," Kerry told The Associated Press in an interview Monday. He accused Republicans of "trying to change the subject" from jobs, health care and other issues.

[zachs]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Yet Kerry stands by the claim.

In that article, he says "I stand by my statement." His statement was " I've met more leaders who can't go out and say it all publicly, but boy they look at you and say, you gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy, we need a new policy, things like that."

[finboy]

Originally posted by coolmacdude:
Even discounting his previous reversal of views, can it get anymore hypocritical than this?

Just keep watchin'.

[Spliffdaddy]

[vmpaul]

According to David Letterman, so far the only 'foreign leader' Kerry has been willing to name is Queen Latifah.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by zachs:
In that article, he says "I stand by my statement." His statement was " I've met more leaders who can't go out and say it all publicly, but boy they look at you and say, you gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy, we need a new policy, things like that."

Read further...

However, the context — that Kerry contended his campaign had international support — has not been challenged by Kerry or his aides.

[Zimphire]

but. .but.. but...