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Originally posted by Zimphire:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3430077.stm
I am sure some of you will push this off as more "israel" manipulation in the media.
But thems the cold hard facts I am afraid.
And good for Walid Shoebat for seeing the light.
P lease...
E xplain to me these thoughts in you.
A nd, is this form of hatred, why it presents?
C uriosity gains me concerning you. simply...
E xplain me, please
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Originally posted by ladybird:
P lease...
E xplain to me these thoughts in you.
A nd, is this form of hatred, why it presents?
C uriosity gains me concerning you. simply...
E xplain me, please
Me being against hatred is hatred how?
BTW your first post huh?
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Me being against hatred is hatred how?
BTW your first post huh?
hmm hmmm... my first post..
I read much post of you... and... often not shared ideas...
I will return tomorrow, to see what you will say...
If you express this day.
Good end of evening.
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Again, how is me being against hatred, hatred?
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Again, how is me being against hatred, hatred?
Shows your questionnement me that I was mistaken. You thus do not have this feeling.
Please excuse me.
I wish you good days to come.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Again, how is me being against hatred, hatred?
If you stare into the Abyss long enough the Abyss stares back at you.
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I could take Sean Connery in a fight... I could definitely take him.
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Walid's 'miraculous conversion' story is not new.
He appears to have exchanged one form of brainwashing for another, which tells you something about the subject's overall intelligence and mental susceptibility.
I don't really need to point out what percentage 1 in 8.5 million is, do I?
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What is truly truly important with your post is that you concede that he, and Palestinians, are brainwashed into believing that the Jews are the dogs of the Arabs, and that they must be murdered for Palestine to be liberated.
Course, it's nice to know that you believe he exchanged the brainwashing he received in the Mosques for Christianity, which you also call a brainwashing.
I still find it most interesting that his family threatened to kill him.
"I was branded a traitor by my father and my family," he said, "they say that I have betrayed the cause, the religion, the culture – everything." Shoebat believes his treatment by his family is indicative of Islam's fatal flaw. "If Islam truly were a peaceful religion then my family might consider me a nut case, but my own brother would not threaten to kill me, my family would not have confiscated my land and demanded I come back to Bethlehem and declare that ‘there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet.' If I don't believe in Islam anymore why should I declare such a thing? The fact is that Mohammed clearly demanded that one who changes his faith must be killed."
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Originally posted by eklipse:
Walid's 'miraculous conversion' story is not new.
He appears to have exchanged one form of brainwashing for another, which tells you something about the subject's overall intelligence and mental susceptibility.
He has replaced hatred and murderous with peaceful and forgiveness. The latter is not a form of brainwashing.
I don't really need to point out what percentage 1 in 8.5 million is, do I?
Oh, you think this is just one? heh.
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Originally posted by vmarks:
What is truly truly important with your post is that you concede that he, and Palestinians, are brainwashed into believing that the Jews are the dogs of the Arabs, and that they must be murdered for Palestine to be liberated.
And that was another reason I posted this. They (the apologists in the forum) say it simply isn't happening. This guy was in the middle of it all, and he says it is!
I still find it most interesting that his family threatened to kill him.
That is hatred bread by ignorance for you. 
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Originally posted by vmarks:
What is truly truly important with your post is that you concede that he, and Palestinians, are brainwashed into believing that the Jews are the dogs of the Arabs, and that they must be murdered for Palestine to be liberated.
Some Palestinians.
Course, it's nice to know that you believe he exchanged the brainwashing he received in the Mosques for Christianity, which you also call a brainwashing.
Brainwashing:
http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/betar1066325279.php
"That's my mission now - to go to Americans and churches and anywhere I can go and explain God's plan for the state of Israel, and how God intended Israel to be a light unto the nations, and how all of our hatred toward Israel is really evil."
When asked later why he didn't have more sympathy for his people's struggle for a homeland, Shoebat said if more Palestinians understood the Jewish claim to the land, as is told in the Bible, they too would be swayed.
http://wordofmessiah.org/from_terrorist_to_zionist.htm
"My first goal is to give strength to the Jewish people, to give encouragement, to get rid of this stupid idea of establishing a Palestinian state," Walid Shoebat told The Jerusalem Post in a telephone interview from his West Coast home.
"I pray for the continuation of the Israeli 'occupation' so that we can have peace. If we put our hands with Israel and say that we want to be part of Greater Israel, we could be a great people. The Palestinians could then be the greatest people in the Middle East," he says.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Oh, you think this is just one? heh.
By all means feel free to point out more Palestinian Zionists.
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Originally posted by eklipse:
Some Palestinians.
A LOT of Palestinians. The ones that are doing the harm.
Wow even more people seeing the light.
See, there is hope. 
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Originally posted by eklipse:
By all means feel free to point out more Palestinian Zionists.
Oh, I wasn't just talking about Muslims form Palistine turning to Christianity.
I am speaking throughout the world.
The BIG picture.
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