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Mar 17, 2004, 01:33 PM
 
Even I think this is going way to far.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114467,00.html
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:38 PM
 
I hate Foxnews. They start the article by insinuating that people are voting to ban homosexuals from living in a certain county. Then, by the second paragraph they drop that completely and instead only say that they are trying to get the state to not recognize civil unions and same-sex marriages from other states or countries.

Those are completely different issues. Foxnews has no idea what it is writing about.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:41 PM
 
They won't need those laws... nobody gay would want to live in a place like that...

But if they somehow do manage to pass them... (<- that was me being rendered speechless)
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:42 PM
 
Originally posted by Turias:
I hate Foxnews. They start the article by insinuating that people are voting to ban homosexuals from living in a certain county. Then, by the second paragraph they drop that completely and instead only say that they are trying to get the state to not recognize civil unions and same-sex marriages from other states or countries.

Those are completely different issues. Foxnews has no idea what it is writing about.
DAYTON, Tenn. — Rhea County (search) commissioners unanimously voted to ask state lawmakers to introduce legislation amending Tennessee's criminal code so the county can charge homosexuals (search) with crimes against nature.
What part did you miss?
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:44 PM
 
I'll have a read of this later, but yes, FOX news has ceased to be a funny matter anymore. What a joke they make news reporting out to be.
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:45 PM
 
Originally posted by Turias:
I hate Foxnews. They start the article by insinuating that people are voting to ban homosexuals from living in a certain county. Then, by the second paragraph they drop that completely and instead only say that they are trying to get the state to not recognize civil unions and same-sex marriages from other states or countries.

Those are completely different issues. Foxnews has no idea what it is writing about.
Actually, what it says is that the action from Rhea County comes after the SJC voted for a bill that would prohibit legal recognition of the civil unions...
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:48 PM
 
Originally posted by Altix:
I'll have a read of this later, but yes, FOX news has ceased to be a funny matter anymore. What a joke they make news reporting out to be.
Why, because they report on issues that you don't agree with? Sensational, perhaps. But news is news. Would you rather they just ignore the story and let this county ban gays without any public knowledge?
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:52 PM
 
commissioners unanimously voted to ask state lawmakers to introduce legislation amending Tennessee's criminal code so the county can charge_homosexuals (search)_with crimes against nature.
They want to pass laws that both the US Supreme Court and before that the Georgia Supreme Court already said were unconstitutional?

Either they are stupid, or just pandering, or both.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:53 PM
 
Originally posted by dcolton:
What part did you miss?
I didn't miss anything. I'm just saying that this article is horribly worded and doesn't flow at all. What the article is saying is never clear. Whoever wrote that needs to be fired.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:55 PM
 
Originally posted by Turias:
I didn't miss anything. I'm just saying that this article is horribly worded and doesn't flow at all. What the article is saying is never clear. Whoever wrote that needs to be fired.
Wrd! I hate simple, straightforward articles that I have to read three times over before I know what they're trying to say...

Mind you, that fits more and more newspapers and media...

Edit: Note to self: Must stop saying "wrd"! Am not Ali G.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 01:59 PM
 
Originally posted by Oisín:
Wrd! I hate simple, straightforward articles that I have to read three times over before I know what they're trying to say...

Mind you, that fits more and more newspapers and media...

Edit: Note to self: Must stop saying "wrd"! Am not Ali G.
As compared to hard, confusing articles that never get to the point?

As you put it, it was a simple, straightforward article reporting the news. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 02:03 PM
 
Originally posted by dcolton:
As compared to hard, confusing articles that never get to the point?

As you put it, it was a simple, straightforward article reporting the news. Nothing more, nothing less.
Short? Yes. Simple and straightforward? Hell no.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 02:07 PM
 
WTF is a "crime against nature" anyways? Is that the same as violating the laws of physics?

I would consider not recycling beer cans a far greater crime against nature than homosexuality.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 02:13 PM
 
Originally posted by Turias:
Foxnews has no idea what it is writing about.
Foxnews knows exactly what they are talking about: ratings, not news. Fox has always presented it's "news" as it's viewers want to hear it, not necessarily as it is.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 02:15 PM
 
Originally posted by dcolton:
As compared to hard, confusing articles that never get to the point?
No, as compared to simple, straightforwards articles who are well written and actually make sense all-round the first time you read them - even when you're tired at 4 am! (Okay, I guess it was more like 3:30 am when I read it)

The hard, confusing ones I leave for those times when I just get this special craving to have a splitting headache...
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 02:43 PM
 
I don 't agree with this, but it's just backlash. Like I said would happen.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 03:14 PM
 
I think the whole idea is risible. I guess the proud citizens of Reba Country are fed up with all those sugar poofs, because everybody knows Reba is one of the main gay destinations in the world, up there with Barcelona & Amsterdam. [sarcasm]
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Mar 17, 2004, 04:33 PM
 
Originally posted by Montezuma58:
WTF is a "crime against nature" anyways?
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Mar 17, 2004, 04:36 PM
 
Well I'm sure Mr. Bergis is fine with it...
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 05:58 PM
 
The US is still going backwards I see. Go conservatives!
     
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Originally posted by Face Ache:
The US is still going backwards I see. Go conservatives!
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Mar 17, 2004, 06:01 PM
 
Originally posted by Montezuma58:
WTF is a "crime against nature" anyways? Is that the same as violating the laws of physics?

I would consider not recycling beer cans a far greater crime against nature than homosexuality.
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Mar 17, 2004, 06:15 PM
 
Originally posted by Montezuma58:
WTF is a "crime against nature" anyways? Is that the same as violating the laws of physics?

I would consider not recycling beer cans a far greater crime against nature than homosexuality.
I'd like to add that it is a recognized fact that in "nature", from seagulls to dolphins, including blue whales, have been reported to have complex sexual behaviors that include homosexuality.

Actually, pretty much all mammals have a complex sexuality that will involve a form of homosexuality or another, which sexuality gets in complexity as the brain gets more complex in its structure.
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Mar 17, 2004, 06:23 PM
 
Originally posted by dcolton:
Even I think this is going way to far.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114467,00.html
Not for enough. It should be SHOOT not ban.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 06:30 PM
 
Originally posted by Secret__Police:
Not for enough. It should be SHOOT not ban.
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Mar 17, 2004, 06:39 PM
 
Ugghh ... sorry, that is a horribly worded, horribly written short piece. It reports the 7-1 vote that would not recognize gay marriage or civil unions. But before that it "reports" that:
"We need to keep them out of here," said Commissioner J.C. Fugate, who introduced the motion.
County Attorney Gary Fritts also was asked by Fugate to find the best way to enact a local law banning homosexuals from living in Rhea County.


Basically, this part reads like a gossip column ... "y'know, I heard J.C. asking that lawyer what would be the best way to ban gays". They completely fail to mention what Simey pointed out .. that such laws have already been deemed unconstitutional. It almost sounds like they left out a part of the story. The part where the county attorney turns back to J.C. and says ... "J.C. are you friggin' nuts ? You can't ban gays. Next question, please".
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 08:04 PM
 
Originally posted by Face Ache:
The US is still going backwards I see. Go conservatives!
This is the Scopes trial county. For them to even realize there is such a thing as a homosexual is progressive.
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 08:28 PM
 
Originally posted by angaq0k:
Actually, pretty much all mammals have a complex sexuality that will involve a form of homosexuality or another, which sexuality gets in complexity as the brain gets more complex in its structure.
Yes we know some people want others to think everyone is gay.

Nonsense.
     
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Originally posted by zachs:
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Mar 17, 2004, 09:49 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yes we know some people want others to think everyone is gay.

Nonsense.
haha, as soon as I read what he posted, I said to my self, "wait until Zimphire reads thats".
     
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Mar 17, 2004, 10:50 PM
 
Having spent the majority of my life in Tennessee I can tell you it's a wonderful place to live. Very pretty and full of unique folks like myself.

See, Tennesseans are just like me. They love people. Mostly, though, they love Tennessee. And they put their state first in everything they do. Of all 50 states, I can guarantee that none are as loved by their citizens as Tennessee. Words cannot explain it fully. It'll be the *last* state to fall...that's the best way to put it.

Does Tennessee hate gays?

Nope.

Tennessee hates to be told how to behave.

Just because 49 other states do it the same way doesn't mean it's a good way for Tennessee.

They don't have a state income tax, for example.

The 'problem', as viewed from the perspective of Tennessee, is that California, for one, is NOT going to dictate Tennessee's morals. Nobody will determine the future of Tennessee that ain't from Tennessee.

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Mar 17, 2004, 10:59 PM
 
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Mar 17, 2004, 11:07 PM
 
Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey:
This is the Scopes trial county. For them to even realize there is such a thing as a homosexual is progressive.


But what are they doing about incest?
     
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Originally posted by daimoni:
Now don't you go telling them how to handle their livestock.

You're liable to start a ruckus.
They have brothers and sisters that are .. sheep?
     
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Of all 50 states, I can guarantee that none are as loved by their citizens as Tennessee. Words cannot explain it fully. It'll be the *last* state to fall...that's the best way to put it.
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Hard for me to make a definitive statement since I'm not from TN. But .... my personal experience from dealing with people is that TN is like you say .. except that Texas may have a little bit of an edge when it comes to the loyalty of its citizenry. Though it can sometimes be a pain, its always heartens me when I see a place that is so self-assured that it doesn't care how the f**k you do it where you come from
     
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Originally posted by daimoni:
Now don't you go telling them how to handle their livestock.

You're liable to start a ruckus.
I'm confused. Are we talking about Wales now?
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Having spent the majority of my life in Tennessee I can tell you it's a wonderful place to live. Very pretty and full of unique folks like myself.

See, Tennesseans are just like me. They love people. Mostly, though, they love Tennessee. And they put their state first in everything they do. Of all 50 states, I can guarantee that none are as loved by their citizens as Tennessee. Words cannot explain it fully. It'll be the *last* state to fall...that's the best way to put it.

Does Tennessee hate gays?

Nope.

Tennessee hates to be told how to behave.

Just because 49 other states do it the same way doesn't mean it's a good way for Tennessee.

They don't have a state income tax, for example.

The 'problem', as viewed from the perspective of Tennessee, is that California, for one, is NOT going to dictate Tennessee's morals. Nobody will determine the future of Tennessee that ain't from Tennessee.

Not askin you to like it...just tellin you how it is.
That hits the nail on the head.

It's really no one else's business how we Tennesseans handle our own affairs, and we really don't give two sh!ts what someone from some other place thinks... especially not some yankee.

I love how the good people of Tennessee live in moral fear... of those Californian people. And what they might choose to do with their own state. Thousands of miles away.

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Fear? Pffttt! We don't care beans about any of you, we just want you to stay at home and leave us be.

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Mar 18, 2004, 12:42 PM
 
Originally posted by Face Ache:


But what are they doing about incest?
Staying out of Alabama.

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Mar 18, 2004, 12:49 PM
 
Why is this not suprising from TN?

Also in the works is a proposal to ban black people, or perhaps expand that to all non-christians. (wouldn't suprise anyone would it).

Once again, even FoxNews reiterates how TN needs to drain, replaster, and refill the water in the gene pool.

I personally think the rest of the US should vote TN, and AL out of the union. We don't need this crap making the US look like a mirror of Taliban Afganistan. Lets get them out, and look like a civil country. They have enough resources to become an independant nation. And we don't need them. Everyone wins.
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Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Why is this not suprising from TN?

Also in the works is a proposal to ban black people, or perhaps expand that to all non-christians. (wouldn't suprise anyone would it).

Once again, even FoxNews reiterates how TN needs to drain, replaster, and refill the water in the gene pool.

I personally think the rest of the US should vote TN, and AL out of the union. We don't need this crap making the US look like a mirror of Taliban Afganistan. Lets get them out, and look like a civil country. They have enough resources to become an independant nation. And we don't need them. Everyone wins.
If we vote ant state out of the Union it should be CA, MA, NJ, and LA.

CA - just because they elected Arnold as Gov. and b/c of the super hollywood liberals

MA - Ted Kennedy and nasty accents

NJ - the nerve of that dirty rat hole infested state to claim to be the Garden State

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Originally posted by MacNStein:
That hits the nail on the head.

It's really no one else's business how we Tennesseans handle our own affairs, and we really don't give two sh!ts what someone from some other place thinks... especially not some yankee.
     
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May I remind everyone of the Embarassment that was the Miss America contest.

Mrs. TN:

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Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Why is this not suprising from TN?

Also in the works is a proposal to ban black people, or perhaps expand that to all non-christians. (wouldn't suprise anyone would it).

Once again, even FoxNews reiterates how TN needs to drain, replaster, and refill the water in the gene pool.

I personally think the rest of the US should vote TN, and AL out of the union. We don't need this crap making the US look like a mirror of Taliban Afganistan. Lets get them out, and look like a civil country. They have enough resources to become an independant nation. And we don't need them. Everyone wins.
Fine with me. We tried to leave once, it's not our fault you yankees wouldn't let us.

So, in the spirit of togetherness inspired by our republic of independant states, I cordially invite you to: mind yer own bees-wax, mow the grass in yer own yard, and go F- yerself.

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Originally posted by macvillage.net:
May I remind everyone of the Embarassment that was the Miss America contest.

Mrs. TN:

link

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Yer jus' jealous `cause we can keep our women-folk in line, yankee.

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Originally posted by Montezuma58:
Look's like they've changed their mind. Sort of.

County attorney Gary Fritts (search) said the initial vote triggered a "wildfire" of reaction. "I've never seen nothing like this," he said Thursday.


This article seems to be accurate.
I can confirm that dialect is, without a doubt, Southeastern Tennessee hillbilly.

Their kids don't play soccer, I can guarantee ya that. Yankees need not apply.


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they were just scairt is all. cain't have no queers wantin to git hitched and settle down in Dayton. reckon they might iffin we didnt stop 'em.

best thing you kin do is git yer ass up in 'em woods, boy.
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Mar 19, 2004, 11:05 AM
 
To you, it's simply gay marriage.

To the fine folks in Dayton, it's akin to satan himself being elected governor.

It's all about perspective.

In an act of tolerance toward our fellow Americans, I suggest we create a "homophobe refuge" within the confines of the Rhea County border.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 12:10 PM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
To you, it's simply gay marriage.

To the fine folks in Dayton, it's akin to satan himself being elected governor.

It's all about perspective.

In an act of tolerance toward our fellow Americans, I suggest we create a "homophobe refuge" within the confines of the Rhea County border.
Too late, there's already a few of those places in Cocke County, specifically in Hartford and Del Rio.

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