[Zimphire]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

LONDON, England (AP) -- Monica Lewinsky said Bill Clinton is a "revisionist of history" who lied about their relationship in his new memoir, according to a British newspaper.

In an interview with The Daily Mail, Lewinsky called the former president's account of their relationship dishonest and said he has missed an opportunity to undo some of the damage their entanglement caused her.

And here I thought he may have changed for the better...

[UNTeMac]

Are we still talking about this? Why isn't there a dead horse being beaten with reeds smiley?

[Atomic Rooster]

[Spheric Harlot]

<Zimphire>
Well, at least he didn't kill 11,000 innocent humans and lie about why.
</Zimphire>

[chalk_outline]

I thought sluts went to hell. Why do you care? Oh that's right you are a hypocrite.

[effgee]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
LONDON, England (AP) -- Monica Lewinsky said ... bla, bla, bla.o

Gee, thanks for reminding us of what's really important these days. Why the hell would anyone even begin to think about thousands of dead, uhm no, "liberated" civilians when there's a blowjob to talk about. Good to see you got your moral values as well as your priorities straight.

[angaq0k]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

LONDON, England (AP) -- Monica Lewinsky said Bill Clinton is a "revisionist of history" who lied about their relationship in his new memoir, according to a British newspaper.

In an interview with The Daily Mail, Lewinsky called the former president's account of their relationship dishonest and said he has missed an opportunity to undo some of the damage their entanglement caused her.

And here I thought he may have changed for the better...

Perspective.

[zachs]

And I thought the deaths of hundreds of Americans and thousands of Iraqis was important! Wow, what an idiot I am!

[dreilly1]

"Instead, he talked about it as though I had laid it all out there for the taking. I was the buffet and he just couldn't resist the dessert"

That quote alone is worth clicking on the article.

[Lerkfish]

FWIW, even though this is a dead horse, her concern is not that he lied, but how he characterized the relationship. He was tempted, and gave in. From his perspective, that's likely accurate. She is stating the relationship was equal and consensual, which does not negate his statements.

What people like zim are TRYING to imply is that Clinton raped Monica, but that's not even HER contention.

[MacGorilla]

Cry me a river, Monica

[gdiddy]

Oh hell, Zim would like to imply Clinton raped her, she got pregnant and he personally aborted the fetus with Hillary and her lesbian lover and Osama watching in an Al Queida cave in Afghanistan.

Sounds to me like the typical "Other Woman" who thought the man who was f--king her was making love to her.

[osiris]

Originally posted by gdiddy:
Oh hell, Zim would like to imply Clinton raped her, she got pregnant and he personally aborted the fetus with Hillary and her lesbian lover and Osama watching in an Al Queida cave in Afghanistan.

You forgot to add:

... and that's why we had to invade Iraq.

[BlackGriffen]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
FWIW, even though this is a dead horse, her concern is not that he lied, but how he characterized the relationship. He was tempted, and gave in. From his perspective, that's likely accurate. She is stating the relationship was equal and consensual, which does not negate his statements.

What people like zim are TRYING to imply is that Clinton raped Monica, but that's not even HER contention.

Bang on.

BG

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
<Zimphire>
Well, at least he didn't kill 11,000 innocent humans and lie about why.
</Zimphire>

Who did that?

Or are you being one of those dishonest Bush haters?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
FWIW, even though this is a dead horse, her concern is not that he lied, but how he characterized the relationship. He was tempted, and gave in. From his perspective, that's likely accurate. She is stating the relationship was equal and consensual, which does not negate his statements.

He painted her out to be a temptress that made him do something he didn't really want to because of it.

Likely Clinton was filling her mind up with BS to keep getting his pinky stinky.

What people like zim are TRYING to imply is that Clinton raped Monica, but that's not even HER contention.

I am? You aren't even close. I don't think Clinton raped Monica.

But this thread went like I suspected. The usual suspects making belittling apologetic comments.

Thanks for not disappointing me.

I thought the Left were supposed to be the ones talking about equality between the sexes. And wouldn't support a Male Chauvinist Pig.

[MacGorilla]

But this thread went like I suspected. The usual suspects making belittling apologetic comments.

Thanks for not disappointing me.

Your welcome...I think

[boots]

Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
Bang on.

BG

Was the pun intended?

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

He painted her out to be a temptress that made him do something he didn't really want to because of it.

Likely Clinton was filling her mind up with BS to keep getting his pinky stinky.


I am? You aren't even close. I don't think Clinton raped Monica.

But this thread went like I suspected. The usual suspects making belittling apologetic comments.

Thanks for not disappointing me.

I thought the Left were supposed to be the ones talking about equality between the sexes. And wouldn't support a Male Chauvinist Pig. [/B]

if by not disappointing you, you mean I would point out reality to you, then I'm happy to oblige.

[BlackGriffen]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

He painted her out to be a temptress that made him do something he didn't really want to because of it.

Likely Clinton was filling her mind up with BS to keep getting his pinky stinky.
[/B]

Eh. A lot of that is subjective. Clinton saw her as a temptress and a good chance for a screw. Lewinsky saw him as a lover.

This whole thread deserves a colossal: Meh.

BG

P.S. Pun not intended, boots.

[effgee]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
He painted her out to be a temptress that made him do something he didn't really want to because of it.

Okie, then so:

"He (George W. Bush) painted him (Saddam Hussein) out to be a terrorist that made him do something he didn't really want to (go to war) because of it."

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
if by not disappointing you, you mean I would point out reality to you, then I'm happy to oblige.

You call your post reality Lerk? You not only made up stuff about my intentions, you didn't post any "facts" about "reality"

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by effgee:

"He (George W. Bush) painted him (Saddam Hussein) out to be a terrorist that made him do something he didn't really want to (go to war) because of it."

[Atomic Rooster]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

But this thread went like I suspected. The usual suspects making belittling apologetic comments.

Thanks for not disappointing me.

Your welcome. Well you didn't think your fishing trip would come up with anybody serious about this do you?

Originally posted by Zimphire:

I thought the Left were supposed to be the ones talking about equality between the sexes. And wouldn't support a Male Chauvinist Pig.

Who Bush?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
Your welcome. Well you didn't think your fishing trip would come up with anybody serious about this do you?

Not a fishing trip. Just making a point. And no, I didn't think any lefty would take this serious. I figured they would make lame apologetic comments. And I wasn't disappointed.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

Not a fishing trip. Just making a point. And no, I didn't think any lefty would take this serious. I figured they would make lame apologetic comments. And I wasn't disappointed. [/B]

Are you saying that *you* take this seriously?

-s*

[Cadaver]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

LONDON, England (AP) -- Monica Lewinsky said Bill Clinton is a "revisionist of history" who lied about their relationship in his new memoir, according to a British newspaper.

In an interview with The Daily Mail, Lewinsky called the former president's account of their relationship dishonest and said he has missed an opportunity to undo some of the damage their entanglement caused her.

And here I thought he may have changed for the better...

That's what she contends. Gee, she couldn't have her own agenda could she?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Are you saying that *you* take this seriously?

-s*

Yes, I take ANY man making a women that was much younger than he was out to be a liar to save his own ass pretty seriously.

Too much of that going on these days.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Cadaver:
That's what she contends. Gee, she couldn't have her own agenda could she?

What agenda does she have? She isn't a Clinton hater.

We know this. During the whole shabang, Clinton lied about it. She didn't.

She has no motive. She was just upset that after all these years, he is still lying.

[MacGorilla]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
What agenda does she have? She isn't a Clinton hater.

We know this. During the whole shabang, Clinton lied about it. She didn't.

She has no motive. She was just upset that after all these years, he is still lying.

Oh he is lying. No one ever accused him of being a Boy Scout.


As for Monica, I wont try to psychoanalyze her but she's riding the publicity for this as much as he.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
Oh he is lying. No one ever accused him of being a Boy Scout.

At least you can admit to it.

As for Monica, I wont try to psychoanalyze her but she's riding the publicity for this as much as he.

I think she is just trying to save as much face as possible.

She isn't innocent by no means. Though she at least deserved the truth. And Clinton again, slapped her in the face.

[OreoCookie]

Yeah, Lewinski also said that this affair (rather the media aftermath) ruined her life. Doh.

[Zimphire]

That actually makes sense.

[Atomic Rooster]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
What agenda does she have? She isn't a Clinton hater.

The handbag agenda.

I hear she still sends him a box of cigars (El Producto Coronas) every birthday and a one of a kind Lewinski handbag to Hilary. She still loves him after all that's happened. That is so sweet. I feel my eyes beginning to moisten...sorry I have to leave now.

[OreoCookie]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
That actually makes sense.

Not the affair has ruined her life, but the media attention that she has drawn onto her (other people were pushing the attention towards her, too, of course).

But she is responsible for the choices she has made and so she'll have to live with it. Blaming Clinton for all is kind of immature, I mean, he had to face the consequences for that (with Mrs. Clinton), and he did. They are still married.

[AKcrab]

Originally posted by OreoCookie:
They are still married.

Not according to Zim.

[MacGorilla]

I am of the belief that the Clintons marriage is first and foremost, a political one. In the beginning, she saw Clinton has someone who would go far in politics, which he did. Along the way she tolerated his affairs because she knew the destination and now that he got what he wanted, being President, I believe now she thinks its her turn. Just a theory.

[OreoCookie]

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
I am of the belief that the Clintons marriage is first and foremost, a political one. In the beginning, she saw Clinton has someone who would go far in politics, which he did. Along the way she tolerated his affairs because she knew the destination and now that he got what he wanted, being President, I believe now she thinks its her turn. Just a theory.

Well, the point is just that I don't like the hype about it. An affair is -- like a marriage -- a private matter that nobody except for the persons involved should have anything to say about. In a way Clinton is like Kennedy who also had his affairs (`Happy Birthday' by Marilyn Monroe), but it didn't affect his track record as a president.

So even if this marriage is a political or strategical one (which is just a guesstimate), it's still their marriage. Since I don't believe that neither Mrs. nor Mr. Clinton are `forced' to be married, it's their thing. I actually don't care.

[Spliffdaddy]

Til death do us part.

"forced" ?

indeed.

[MacGorilla]

I said it was forced; I just think each saw much more than a happy life w/kids together, thats all.