[bleuvixen]

This thread is not to argue about the movie, etc.

I just want to say that all the local Regal Cinemas are now going to show Farenheit 9/11 starting June 30th

We (the biggest 2 towns) have gone from a 45 min. drive, to now having 4 in town theatres showing the movie.

Regal CineMedia is the largest theatre owner in the USA and represents: 6,000 screens and over 550 theaters in 39 states.

They also own: Regal Cinemas, Edwards Theatres, United Artists Theatre Company, and Hoyts Cinema brands.

I don't know if this is a new deal or what Michael Moore's pages don't even list the showings yet?

Is this just a money grab from Regal? wanting to get in on the action?

Anyway, I can see the biggest regal theatre out my office window (its right across the street) I wonder if there will be many people tomorrow....

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
This thread is not to argue about the movie, etc.

I just want to say that all the local Regal Cinemas are now going to show Farenheit 9/11 starting June 30th... Regal CineMedia is the largest theatre owner in the USA and represents: 6,000 screens and over 550 theaters in 39 states.

They also own: Regal Cinemas, Edwards Theatres, United Artists Theatre Company, and Hoyts Cinema brands.

This sounds more like an advertisement than a discussion topic.

Good job.

Maybe you can give us a link to where we can buy tickets online for a Farenheit 9/11 showing at our nearest Regal CineMedia theater location.

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
This sounds more like an advertisement than a discussion topic.

Perhaps your are paranoid?

Anyone who thinks Farenheit 9/11 needs me advertising has been living under a rock.

As I said, getting in on it this late looks like a money grab seeing how much it has made thus far...

Maybe you can give us a link to where we can buy tickets online for a Farenheit 9/11 showing at our nearest Regal CineMedia theater location.

Maybe http://movies.yahoo.com

[BoomStick]

Won't be shown here for lack of interest in garbage films.

[Grammar Police]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
Perhaps your are paranoid?

Anyone who thinks Farenheit 9/11 needs me advertising has been living under a rock.

It actually sounded like an advertisement for Regal.

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by Grammar Police:
It actually sounded like an advertisement for Regal.

I don't own any shares of Regal anymore.

Originally posted by BoomStick:
Won't be shown here for lack of interest in garbage films.

Where is here?

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by Grammar Police:
It actually sounded like an advertisement for Regal.

Yeah... I never heard so much about a theater company - who they are, brands that they own, number of screens, locations, states, etc. Do most people preamble a movie discussion by giving the corporate overviews and annual reports of a theater's parent company?

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Yeah... I never heard so much about a theater company - who they are, brands that they own, number of screens, locations, states, etc. Do most people preamble a movie discussion by giving the corporate overviews and annual reports of a theater's parent company?

Your point is what?, even if I had some vested interest in the company what would this acomplish?
Perhaps you are trying to spin your original bashing of this thread?

I showed what they owned to show they are a huge company who has JUST NOW decided to get in on this, and wanted opinions on why now? where there prior agreements, etc. thanks for adding nothing.

[phoenixboy70]

Originally posted by BoomStick:
Won't be shown here for lack of interest in garbage films.

wow, i'm sure you're bummed because you didn't get to see "the passion of the christ" at one of your local theaters.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
Perhaps you are trying to spin your original bashing of this thread?

I showed what they owned to show they are a huge company who has JUST NOW decided to get in on this, and wanted opinions on why now? where there prior agreements, etc. thanks for adding nothing.

Oooh, what a great corporate move. Show Moore's movie JUST NOW that Spiderman 2 gets ready to open. What a shrewd, strategic way to optimize screen revenues. Please post their stock symbol so I can avoid accidentally buying into such a braintrust.

As Farenheit 9/11's place in cinematic history, I thought this put the film's opening weekend success in proper perspective...

[itai195]

All the Moore-bashing is really getting tiresome.

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
As Farenheit 9/11's place in cinematic history, I thought this put the film's opening weekend success in proper perspective...

Do you get all your comments from Rushlimbaugh.com?

[effgee]

Originally posted by itai195:
All the Moore-bashing is really getting tiresome.

Actually, coming from the right people, it's not - for two reasons:[list=a][*]When was the last time you've seen so many right-wing nutters this upset? Looks like someone struck a nerve here.[*]The longer the right-wing nutters bitch and moan about Moore, the more publicity they generate for his film.[/list=a]Overall, I say - keep on bitchin'

[itai195]

Originally posted by effgee:
Overall, I say - keep on bitchin'

In some sense I agree, the bitching is kind of entertaining. But I'd still rather see more substantive discussion.

[Grammar Police]

I dunno, I'm a pretty hardcore left-winger and anti-Busher, but I wasn't impressed with Fahrenheit 9/11. It just wasn't that great of a film. Some of the scenes with the mother who lost her son were powerful, as was some of the war imagery, but that's it.

[effgee]

Originally posted by itai195:
In some sense I agree, the bitching is kind of entertaining. But I'd still rather see more substantive discussion.

That would of course be the preferable choice - but oftentimes, it seems this entire Bush administration topic is way too far down the sh!tter for any kind of rational discourse.

The "die-hard", "kill-em-all" Bush supporters (see how I'm not saying "republicans", here? and on purpose, too) are evidently beginning to realize that things are starting to come apart at the seams - hence the frothing at the mouth. But they also understand that this time, they just might have taken things a bit too far and that, in their narrow-minded POV, it would be the ultimate defeat having to admit that wrong choices might have been made along the way.

So, until an appropriate/convenient apology comes around which they can use to talk themselves out of taking any responsibility, they'll be sticking to their one-dimensional POV, attempting to patch up the dam by yelling at it and fixing the cracks with band-aids. They'll be defending their "philosophy" until the last vote is counted and the last drop of blood is spilled - as long as it's not their own, of course.

And until then, we'll be yelling at each other.

[PacHead]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I keep reading about some scene with some mother who lost her son in Iraq. I'm sure it's terrible for her obviously, but what a cheap way to try and make a point. War is bigger than 1 persons loss, and it's pretty pathetic for MM to try and use one sole case as a propaganda tool and to gain sympathy.

And this thread does seem like an advertisement.

The revenues for F 9-11 will drop after the lefties run out of money from buying mulitple tickets and seeing it 2-3-4 times.

[Grammar Police]

Originally posted by PacHead:
The revenues for F 9-11 will drop after the lefties run out of money from buying mulitple tickets and seeing it 2-3-4 times.

I'm a leftie who will never watch that movie again.

And is it ok to give your own post a thumbsup?

[itai195]

Originally posted by PacHead:
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I keep reading about some scene with some mother who lost her son in Iraq. I'm sure it's terrible for her obviously, but what a cheap way to try and make a point. War is bigger than 1 persons loss, and it's pretty pathetic for MM to try and use one sole case as a propaganda tool and to gain sympathy.

I haven't seen it yet either, but my understanding is the purpose of that scene is not what you described it to be.

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
As Farenheit 9/11's place in cinematic history, I thought this put the film's opening weekend success in proper perspective... (image of 22nd place removed)

Great perspective... lol

There are a lot of different ways to "put it into perspective" (or slant to your taste)

I don't know where Rush got his numbers but...

(These are opening weekend numbers)
Legally Blond 2 grossed 22.22Million putting it at #210 best opening weekend.
Farenheit grossed 23.92 million putting it at #186

Just about every other movie opened in over 2400 theatres.
Legally Blonde opened in 3,350 theatres.
Farenheit opened in 868 theatres.

Legally blonde 2 per theatre: $6,632
Farenheit 9/11 per theatre: $27,557

If this was in the average of 2,400 theatres it would be $66,136,800 (this is obvioulsy hypothetical) Putting it as the #19 movie of all time.

As for average $ per theatre it IS the #2 Movie of all time.

Spiderman is # 1 with $31,769 per theatre
Farenheit is #2 with $27,557 per theatre
and Shrek 2 is #3 with $25,952 per theatre

How's that perspective?

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by BoomStick:
Won't be shown here for lack of interest in garbage films.

Not showing here either... I'm just crushed, I tell you.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
Do you get all your comments from Rushlimbaugh.com?

Nope. I visited his site today for the first time in a while to see what he had to say about the Iraq sovereignty handover.

There were a few items on his page that made me chuckle, like the Moore poster and the report about the 12 protestors who held an anti-Rush rally outside his station while he was away on vacation.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
Just about every other movie opened in over 2400 theatres.
Legally Blonde opened in 3,350 theatres.
Farenheit opened in 868 theatres.

Legally blonde 2 per theatre: $6,632
Farenheit 9/11 per theatre: $27,557

If this was in the average of 2,400 theatres it would be $66,136,800 (this is obvioulsy hypothetical) Putting it as the #19 movie of all time.

Nice try, but you've got nothing here. Distribution and coverage are 2 integral parts of the film industry. If the film was projected to do $66 million on opening weekend, it would have been in enough theaters to handle the demand.

I have a theater with 1 screen and 5 seats. My movie showings are always at capacity. Projecting that and coming up with a "should have been" $500 million opening weekend *if only* every theater carried my movie is just as ridiculous as your fudging and manipulating 9/11's numbers to try and raise the film's relevance and impact.

Again, and this was another thing on Rush's page today... more people listen to Rush during a 15 minute span on any given day than saw Moore's film this past weekend.

There's your impact.

[Logic]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Again, and this was another thing on Rush's page today... more people listen to Rush during a 15 minute span on any given day than saw Moore's film this past weekend.

There's your impact.

Thanks for explaining why U.S. politics are how they are

[itai195]

Not sure where he got the numbers, but Moore claims the film was #1 in every Red state. Guilty pleasure?

[Grammar Police]

Originally posted by itai195:
Not sure where he got the numbers, but Moore claims the film was #1 in every Red state. Guilty pleasure?

Well, it didn't have a lot of competition. I mean, come on, the number 2 movie for the weekend was White Chicks, and even that only lost by 2 million. And even though it's in its second week, Dodgeball only lost by 3 mil.

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Projecting that and coming up with a "should have been" $500 million opening weekend *if only* every theater carried my movie is just as ridiculous as your fudging and manipulating 9/11's numbers to try and raise the film's relevance and impact.

I will admit that is not accurate, What I said was that hypothetically the number would be... Obviously add more theaters and the people will spread out, I wouldn't have gone 40 miles out of the way with more theaters added.

But without FUDGING any number the per theatre gross was still #2 of all time.
The reports of people standing during the entire movie are staggering.
Have you any idea how many people you need to continuously squeeze into a theatre to get a $22,000 per-theatre weekend? You have obviously never worked in the movie industry.

Again, and this was another thing on Rush's page today... more people listen to Rush during a 15 minute span on any given day than saw Moore's film this past weekend.

Yeah take a look at Stern's base some time.
And I'd like to know how he came to that conclusion, radio rating aren't measure by 15 minute intervals... I will try to get some facts.

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by Grammar Police:
Well, it didn't have a lot of competition. I mean, come on, the number 2 movie for the weekend was White Chicks, and even that only lost by 2 million. And even though it's in its second week, Dodgeball only lost by 3 mil.

Umm those two movies ran in 2,700 and 3,000 theaters (Respectively )?

Fahrenheit 9/11: per showing 306 people
White Chicks: per showing 81 people
Dodge Ball: per showing 69 people

This is assuming $7.50 per ticket, 3 day weekend for each film.
It doesn't matter that ticket costs change a little cause ALL the numbers will all change at the same rate.

Also, I did this at 4 showings per day, white chicks averaged 5 per theatre and Dodgeball almost 11... so their numbers would thin out some more.. I think this gives a pretty good perspective on the numbers?

[Grammar Police]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
Umm those two movies ran in 2,700 and 3,000 theaters (respectively)?

I was talking about overall weekend box office revenues.

[bleuvixen]

Originally posted by Grammar Police:
I was talking about overall weekend box office revenues.

Dodgeball did: $18.787 million
Fahrenheit did: $23.921 million

5.1 Million more and 21% better.

5.1 Million is around 667,000 tickets to "put it in perspective"

or 167,000 more than this many people:

[Grammar Police]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
Dodgeball did: $18.787 million
Fahrenheit did: $23.921 million

5.1 Million more and 21% better.

Hmmm, my mistake. The site I was looking at was an estimate. I guess it was put up before the actual numbers were tallied.

[slow moe]

Spiderman 2, Daytona, and teh 4th of July are this weekend. Farengazootite what?

[el chupacabra]

Originally posted by bleuvixen:
I just want to say that all the local Regal Cinemas are now going to show Farenheit 9/11 starting June 30th


Is this just a money grab from Regal? wanting to get in on the action?

Well of course they want to get in on the money. Actually from what I understand they've been wanting to get in on this for a while but from what I've read Lions Gate has been limiting its distribution (some kind of problems at first or something). Because of the films success though it should get on many more screens accross the nation according to lions gate films.

PacHead
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I keep reading about some scene with some mother who lost her son in Iraq. I'm sure it's terrible for her obviously, but what a cheap way to try and make a point. War is bigger than 1 persons loss, and it's pretty pathetic for MM to try and use one sole case as a propaganda tool and to gain sympathy.

Obviously it wouldn't be very affective if it was just another sob story about a son lost in war. The point was she could of at least thought he died for a purpose but this war was a poorly planned out sham and a waste of life. There was nothing she could even be proud of here. She had also been a big supporter of Bush and the war before she found out what was really going on. Moore shows footage of Bush and Powel just a few months before 9 11 claiming there is no way Iraq could have wmd because their technology wasn't sufficient enough to make basic weapons and electricity.

bleuvixen
Do you get all your comments from Rushlimbaugh.com?

I've noticed a lot of conservative arguments here come straight from Rush.

I almost didn't see this movie after seeing what crap bowling was. But it seems to be a lot different (not much of MM's commentary). It really is a bunch of lies though...that is you get to see clips of Bush lie over and over again.

So far the only critism I can find is "some elementary teacher says...Bush did the right thing sitting for seven minutes to think about the phrase 'where under attack'."
-from the fox new site.

I think that teacher should be in charge of our national security.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by itai195:
All the Moore-bashing is really getting tiresome.

The Bush bashing was getting tiresome months ago in here.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by effgee:
Actually, coming from the right people, it's not - for two reasons:[list=a][*]When was the last time you've seen so many right-wing nutters this upset? Looks like someone struck a nerve here.[*]The longer the right-wing nutters bitch and moan about Moore, the more publicity they generate for his film.[/list=a]Overall, I say - keep on bitchin'

You pseudo intellectuals need to learn the difference between us making fun of the fat lard, and use getting upset.

It's not half as funny as seeing you guys cry about Bush.

[el chupacabra]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
The Bush bashing was getting tiresome months ago in here.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that all the Moore stuff is old news. Even most librals think hes a hypocrite, but that doesnt change the facts about the new film. People are trying to start a fight in one of the other threads saying "common MM cowards defend yourself" really there's not much to defend or disagree with....Now if someone could find false facts in his film that would be an interesting, and NEW argument. With Bush there is always something newer and more horrible every day that he has done for us to bitch about. You have even pointed that out in your last post.

[itai195]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
The Bush bashing was getting tiresome months ago in here.

Unlike Moore, Bush is in a position of authority. Anyway, I agree that mindless and endless bashing of anyone is pointless.

[MindFad]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
You pseudo intellectuals need to learn...

Coming from you, one of the most qualified ones on this message board? No, you're a big dummy head!

It's not half as funny as seeing you guys cry about Bush.