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bleuvixen · Jun 30, 2004, 11:01 AM

Reported by Matt Drudge here: http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryhrc.htm

Anyone know anything about the Drudge Report? Credible, Satire? I have heard of them many time before but don't know much about the actual reporting...

Anyway I think this would be a bad move even if I would help get Kerry in office.

MacGorilla · Jun 30, 2004, 11:01 AM

I'd be shocked. She's said no a couple of times now through the media.

Spliffdaddy · Jun 30, 2004, 11:03 AM

I'd be shocked if she wasn't lying.

Monique · Jun 30, 2004, 11:50 AM

Since when does this guy tell the truth. He would not know what the truth is even if it would jump in his face.

CD Hanks · Jun 30, 2004, 11:50 AM

My fingers are still crossed for Kerry/Thompson.

dreilly1 · Jun 30, 2004, 12:08 PM

She told New Yorkers directly that she would serve out her full term as Senator. If she bolts before 2006 for any reason save health, I think the press here (both in liberal cities and conservative suburbs/rural areas) would crucify her. It might even be enough to put the state in play, if not tilt it toward the Republicans.

BlackGriffen · Jun 30, 2004, 12:22 PM

Given Hillary's own (presumptive) Presidential aspirations, I just don't see her playing second fiddle on a ticket to John Kerry. It gains her nothing: she's already nationally prominent, it puts a Democratic vote in the senate at risk, and has the potential to alienate New York.

BlackGriffen

Dr.HermanG. · Jun 30, 2004, 12:25 PM

The last thing we need is her anywhere close to the White House aside from serving cupcakes.

itai195 · Jun 30, 2004, 12:31 PM

I don't see how anyone other than John Edwards makes much sense...

saab95 · Jul 1, 2004, 01:54 PM

It would be the worst mistake Kerry's ever made to have her as a running mate.

Kerry needs to carry the states the Democrats got in 2000- a tall order.

He also needs to carry some of the South, which that dingbat Gore didn't do.

macvillage.net · Jul 1, 2004, 02:08 PM

As unfortunate as it is. I don't think the nation would accept a female as a #2. IIRC there was a poll that backed that up during the last election, when Gore was looking (and Hillary was rumored to be VP).

Kerry has a close campaign as it is. Granted it would be a milestone for womans rights, and would win a majorr female vote away from Republicans...

In the grand scheme of things, it would probibly cost him some votes.

Especially since most voters are older individuals, and tend to be conservative about this sort of thing.

As sad as it is, I'd bet it would hurt more than help... though in 15-20 years, he'd look like he was a man among apes with being progressive towards equality.

Zimphire · Jul 1, 2004, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by itai195:
I don't see how anyone other than John Edwards makes much sense...

You know, I liked Edwards. It would have been a close call for me if he was running against Bush.

Dr.HermanG. · Jul 1, 2004, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
As unfortunate as it is. I don't think the nation would accept a female as a #2.

No, just not this "female."

Zimphire · Jul 1, 2004, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Dr.HermanG.:
No, just not this "female."

Yeah, I would vote for a female president. Just not her.

macvillage.net · Jul 1, 2004, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
You know, I liked Edwards. It would have been a close call for me if he was running against Bush.

I'm still not convinced he won't run as vice.

Your not the only one feeling like that apparantly. Lots of people like him.

Seems he might really improve Kerry's chance.

itai195 · Jul 1, 2004, 04:06 PM

Edwards gives Kerry some credibility in the South as well as a running mate that can articulate the populist positions Kerry has been promoting. I'm really starting to wonder how significant it is anyway if Bush can win with Cheney as a running mate.

Zimphire · Jul 1, 2004, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Your not the only one feeling like that apparantly. Lots of people like him.

Seems he might really improve Kerry's chance.

He just might. He would bring in more southern votes.

Too bad he'd be playing second fiddle.

He would have been a better candidate than Kerry. I don't really know how Kerry got to be in the position he is. I guess the left thought he was a "better sell"

thunderous_funker · Jul 1, 2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by itai195:
Edwards gives Kerry some credibility in the South as well as a running mate that can articulate the populist positions Kerry has been promoting. I'm really starting to wonder how significant it is anyway if Bush can win with Cheney as a running mate.

Edwards is a no-brainer for Veep. The job is his if he wants it.

Kerry won't pick a lightening rod like Hillary. Woudn't fit his strategy.

He pretended to be Dean until Dean was out. Now he's pretending to be Bush2000 (the kinder, gentler, centrist Dubya pretended to be in 2000).

lil'babykitten · Jul 1, 2004, 04:50 PM

Doubt it. I think she has aspirations to run for President in 2008.

voyageur · Jul 1, 2004, 05:24 PM

Indeed, I think Edwards has to be the right choice for VP.
In addition to what others mention above, his sunny disposition would offset Kerry's rather dour one. It seems silly, but people love a smile and a positive spin, and Kerry can come across as so serious as to be morose.

macvillage.net · Jul 1, 2004, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
He just might. He would bring in more southern votes.

Too bad he'd be playing second fiddle.

He would have been a better candidate than Kerry. I don't really know how Kerry got to be in the position he is. I guess the left thought he was a "better sell"

Kerry got it because he's a little stronger in the swing states.

And the reason for that is because Edwards is very fixed on his agenda. He wrote it 10 years ago, and it's there. That's all there is too it. You like it, you don't... or you don't care.

Kerry on the other hand, it still evolving as the news happens. He's been addressing some of the issues at hand (Iraq, economy, etc).

Hence Kerry makes the better lead, since the Democrats are marketing this campaign as the 'not bush'.

Edwards is exactly what people warned about Bush. Has every action he will do already mapped out. Just look at Iraq. We all knew it was going to happen.

Edwards is in the wrong time. To close to Bush to run against him. Kerry is the best 'not bush' they have. If it were a Gore like president in office, Edwards would already have this election done. He's the ideal fix.

Kerry is the anti-bush. But Kerry does have his weaknesses. Edwards seems to fill in the gaps really well... making Kerry look much stronger.

Cheney is what bush the election in 2000. Without Cheney on the ticket, Bush wouldn't have come close. Cheney fit him really well.

Unless Kerry has someone that's completely off the Radar... Edwards is the man.

The only person better that I can think of is McCain. McCain and him would have made a good team. Not only because they worked together, but because of the bipartisanship. Exactly what the country could really use right now. A little balance. Both have their strongpoints, and weaknesses.

I'm still hoping if Kerry wins, McCain accepts a position in his cabinet. I'd personally like to see McCain kept very close, since he's a bright guy who really knows his stuff. He's not just a politician, he actually understands it.

MacGorilla · Jul 1, 2004, 09:53 PM

I am actually an Elizabeth Dole fan. He should pick her if he wants a female VP.

placebo1969 · Jul 1, 2004, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
I am actually an Elizabeth Dole fan. He should pick her if he wants a female VP.

Liddy Dole with Kerry? Say you're kidding or at least on crack.

MacGorilla · Jul 2, 2004, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by placebo1969:
Liddy Dole with Kerry? Say you're kidding or at least on crack.

I am serious. And don't call me Shirley

macvillage.net · Jul 2, 2004, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
I am actually an Elizabeth Dole fan. He should pick her if he wants a female VP.

She's most likely the best female in public life for the job (she's got lots of experience from her life to apply). Both domestic experience within our country, as well as the ever so important international arena thanks to her work.

But I don't think she fits well with Kerry. Edwards seems to be the best match by far.

I could see her going with someone like Gore though... seriously. She's everything he isn't. And vice versa. They are so opposite. Provided they don't kill eachother, they would complement each other. Though somehow, I doubt they would cooperate enough to get anything done.

Kerry and McCain are different too, but they have at least a long time mutual respect that's very evident.

thunderous_funker · Jul 2, 2004, 12:10 PM

If Kerry wants a woman, he should go with Ann Richards. Back when Dean was the man, she was rumored to be his pick and she campaigned for Dean all over the media.

She's smart, sassy, vocal, eloquent and southern. And she has tremendous appeal across party lines (unlike Hillary).

Of course, she has always said she is enjoying her retirement, but if we're talking woman Veep, I think she would have to be at the top of list even if she turns it down.