[Taliesin]

... poisoning the only well in the palestinian village!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3891531.stm

Taliesin

[Logic]

Sick bastards!

But will we see their families homes demolished, their families rounded up and taken to prison, or even the slightest thing done about it? I highly doubt it.



Now bring in the apologist Zionists!

[Taliesin]

Originally posted by Logic:
Sick bastards!

But will we see their families homes demolished, their families rounded up and taken to prison, or even the slightest thing done about it? I highly doubt it.

Hey, hey, you are too fast in condemning, it is still not proven, they are just suspected by palestinians and israelic police of having done that.

Taliesin

[Logic]

Originally posted by Taliesin:
Hey, hey, you are too fast in condemning, it is still not proven, they are just suspected by palestinians and israelic police of having done that.

Taliesin

Damn, you are correct!!

But why would the Palestinians do this to their own people? Doesn't make sense to me.

[lil'babykitten]

Looks as though this was done by a "Jewish" militant group.

Residents of Tatwana near Hebron found rotting chicken carcases in their well after four Jewish settlers were seen in the village early on Tuesday morning.

Israeli police said they suspected militant Jews from a nearby wildcat settlement outpost called Havat Maon.

Sick.

[dcolton]

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Looks as though this was done by a "Jewish" militant group.

Sick.

This is sick, no matter who did it.

The nation of dcolton condemns this action and demands that the palestinians bring the guilty party to justice

[Logic]

Question:

Lets say that this was done by this Jewish group. Would you classify this as terrorism and would you want the news outlets to talk about this as a terrorist attack?

[dcolton]

Originally posted by Logic:
Question:

Lets say that this was done by this Jewish group. Would you classify this as terrorism and would you want the news outlets to talk about this as a terrorist attack?

Actually, I was just joking. If this were done by a jewish group, I would be equally outraged.

Where we will differ is that I believe the Israeli's will make an effort to bring the guilty party to justice. I don't think the same holds true for the Palestinians.

that is the difference, IMO between a legitament government and a terrorist government. Palestine supports efforts like these by their people. Israeli's bring their terrorists to justice.

[dcolton]

Originally posted by Taliesin:
Hey, hey, you are too fast in condemning, it is still not proven, they are just suspected by palestinians and israelic police of having done that.

Taliesin

I am impressed with your williness to wait before pointing a finger.

Where are you from Taliesin?

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by dcolton:
Where are you from Taliesin?

The nation of Moderately Sensible.

Why is this important?

I'm sure he's just some socialist euro commie terrorist sympathizer, i.e. non-right-wing-American...

[xi_hyperon]

Originally posted by dcolton:
The nation of dcolton condemns this action and demands that the palestinians bring the guilty party to justice. Now watch this drive!

Fixed™

[dcolton]

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
Fixed™

lol. Did you notice the pure power of my drive right down the middle of the fairway. I might get on in two! (Thinking eagle on this treacherous par 5)

[BlackGriffen]

Without a doubt, I would 100% call this terrorism.

BG

[Splinter]

Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
Without a doubt, I would 100% call this terrorism.

BG

agreed.

[bstone]

Originally posted by Logic:
Damn, you are correct!!

But why would the Palestinians do this to their own people? Doesn't make sense to me.

There are countless other examples of clan vs clan fighting amongsts Arabs. It cannot be outside the realm of possibilties that Israelis had absolutely nothing to do with this. Everyone concerned should keep an open mind and wait for the investigations.

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by dcolton:
Actually, I was just joking. If this were done by a jewish group, I would be equally outraged.

Where we will differ is that I believe the Israeli's will make an effort to bring the guilty party to justice. I don't think the same holds true for the Palestinians.

that is the difference, IMO between a legitament government and a terrorist government. Palestine supports efforts like these by their people. Israeli's bring their terrorists to justice.

Israel in the past hasn't made much effort to curb this stuff from happening. Arson is still quite common as non-israeli media quite often shows.

There was some interesting journalism that blames it on ex-IDF living in the outposts... still have adequate connections to keep authorities from doing anything.


Terrorism == Terrorism.


I'm curious if Israel would be willing to use a missle to attack the Israeli suspects. Or if civilian police will be used. If they are truly against terrorism... they will 'make no distinction' as president bush put it... or if they are in a religious war.

[Logic]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Israel in the past hasn't made much effort to curb this stuff from happening. Arson is still quite common as non-israeli media quite often shows.

There was some interesting journalism that blames it on ex-IDF living in the outposts... still have adequate connections to keep authorities from doing anything.


Terrorism == Terrorism.


I'm curious if Israel would be willing to use a missle to attack the Israeli suspects. Or if civilian police will be used. If they are truly against terrorism... they will 'make no distinction' as president bush put it... or if they are in a religious war.

And I have a question for those who think this is terrorism. Do you think that the houses of those suspected of this attack should be struck with missiles and their land destroyed?

I also want to know why you think that they should or shouldn't do it.

thanks

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by Logic:


And I have a question for those who think this is terrorism. Do you think that the houses of those suspected of this attack should be struck with missiles and their land destroyed?

I also want to know why you think that they should or shouldn't do it.

thanks

I'm personally against terrorism... so yes, missles and destroy homes.

But I know several here believe that the word 'terrorism' takes on different meanings based on the religion of the attacker. I'm curious on their response. To date, they are against going after these things with weapons that could harm others in those cases.

Terrorism == Terrorism.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

The Israelis should definitely use every means to arrest whoever is involved. Just as anywhere else where there’s a real criminal justice system that builds cases against, and goes after the criminal element and prosecutes them, there shouldn’t be a need to escalate things any further than that.

Regardless of all the (failed) attempts at moral-relativism between the Israeli side and the Palestinian side, that’s one of the key differences between the two. Israelis do a much better job of dealing realistically with their criminal element than the outright sham that the Palestinian ‘authorities’ put on with theirs. The Palestinian people end up paying the price, because despite people’s fantasies to the contrary, it only naturally follows that if the Palestinians won’t do the job themselves (and they don’t), then the Israelis aren’t just going to sit back and accept that. They’re going to do what it takes to go after Palestinian terrorists. People should have figured out by now that they don’t play around at it.

If this case were a situation (as you do have often on the Palestinian side) where people who commit terrorists acts are never properly prosecuted by authorities, and they were willingly aided/abetted and hidden by friends/family/neighbors/local terrorist leaders/etc, over and over again, then yes, eventually the response to such would be rockets, missiles, tanks, bulldozers etc. Whatever it would take.

What’s more, despite all the sham moral-relativism, I believe that the Palestinians understand this full well. I simply don’t believe anyone is really so dense as to believe you can send suicide bombers and gunmen out after other people’s families and children, have your own authorities be so corrupt they do nothing, even encourage it, and then somehow honestly expect that you won’t get tanks, guns and helicopters etc. in response.

No one has to convince me that if I went out from my house and blew up and slaughtered other people all over my city and state, or sponsored and encouraged others to do so, eventually when I’m tracked down, there will be ALL MANNER of nasty firepower parked outside my house ready to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to bring me in, dead or alive. Anyone aiding and abetting me would be an idiot if they couldn’t figure out that they too were going to get paid an extremely unpleasant heavy-firepower visit as well.

People all over the world whose brains function correctly –most people in fact- have an instinctive understanding of this. Slaughter others, or be party to it, and you WILL get EXTREME VIOLENCE used against you. Period.

Palestinians and their ‘moral-relativist’ accomplices who pretend they can’t understand what most people know instinctively would happen to themselves if they tried to pull the same things, is just another sham.

[Logic]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
............yadayada blah blah.......

Palestinians and their ‘moral-relativist’ accomplices who pretend they can’t understand what most people know instinctively would happen to themselves if they tried to pull the same things, is just another sham.

So why won't Israel just charge the Palestinians suspected of terrorism or of supporting terrorism? If that works so well for Israeli terrorists and their supporters. I know the answer but I'd like to hear your answer to that though.

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by Logic:
So why won't Israel just charge the Palestinians suspected of terrorism or of supporting terrorism? If that works so well for Israeli terrorists and their supporters. I know the answer but I'd like to hear your answer to that though.

That's the point the world minus Israel/US are trying to make

They claim to have a tough stance on terrorism... but only based on religion. If they really had this doctorine against terrorism they would do it without hesitations regardless.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by Logic:
So why won't Israel just charge the Palestinians suspected of terrorism or of supporting terrorism? If that works so well for Israeli terrorists and their supporters. I know the answer but I'd like to hear your answer to that though.

First of all, Israeli police build cases against, charge, go after, and convict Palestinian terrorists/sponsors, etc. all the time. But there are always differing levels of how justice will be meted out. No one is going to send a SWAT team or the military after you for jaywalking, but just go and try blowing up busloads of civilians and see what is sent after you. Do you entertain the fantasy that no one would come after you with as much firepower as is deemed needed? Keep dreaming then. As I stated, MOST PEOPLE understand this concept instinctively, and know FULL WELL what they could expect if they were committing/aiding/abetting/funding acts of terror and mass-murder.

But the ‘moral-relevance’ crowd likes to pretend that somehow these basic constants of the entire world don’t apply to the Palestinians. Keep dreaming.

So long as the Palestinians have the insane inmates like Arafat and co. running the asylum and refusing to bring terrorists to justice, and in fact encouraging/sponsoring more of the same, then the void this creates will naturally be filled by the Israelis. Period. As the Israelis have clearly proven, they don’t play around when they have to do what Arafat et al refuse to do.

I’d say the SANE thing to do to stop that cycle, isn’t for the Palestinians to keep falling for Arafat’s and Hamas’s bullcrap, but to put and end to it once and for all, and get some REAL leadership and authority on the Palestinian side.

Until that happens, Palestinians are deluding themselves that they’ll get peace by attacking Israeli citizens, having their 'leadership' look the other way, and then pretending there won’t be violent repercussions. Dream on.

[Logic]

So you don't think they should use the same tactics on Israelis because the police will do there. That's basically what you are saying, right?

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

I stated clearly:

If this case were a situation (as you do have often on the Palestinian side) where people who commit terrorists acts are never properly prosecuted by authorities, and they were willingly aided/abetted and hidden by friends/family/neighbors/local terrorist leaders/etc, over and over again, then yes, eventually the response to such would be rockets, missiles, tanks, bulldozers etc. Whatever it would take.

[macvillage.net]

[Logic]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:

Please type louder. I can't hear you.