[PacHead]

Some extreme lefties just don't know when to shut up. This story is hilarious.

Under a concert performance in Las Vegas, the aging folk singer caused a near riot when she called the liar Michael Moore "a great American patriot", and "someone who is spreading the truth". She also dedicated a song to the liar.

Apparently, people are sick of these liars and many of the 4500 audience members began to boo and started a near riot scene.

It was a very ugly scene," Aladdin President Bill Timmins told The Associated Press. "She praised him and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose." Timmins, who is British and was watching the show, said he didn't allow Ronstadt back in her luxury suite afterward and she was escorted off the property. Ronstadt's antics "spoiled a wonderful evening for our guests and we had to do something about it," Timmins said.

Patrons booed her off the stage, and then reports say that they tore down her posters, showered them with alcohol and scribbled nasty comments on her likeness that was displayed on the posters.

That's what happens when lying lefties try to force their perverted and sick, demented opinions upon other clear thinking people who do not like propaganda movies, and being force fed leftie lies by radical fools.

Michael Moore's movie might just have the exact opposite effect that he intended !

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/pa...es/000410.html

[PacHead]

[Troll]

Originally posted by PacHead:
That's what happens when lying lefties try to force their perverted and sick, demented opinions upon other clear thinking people who do not like propaganda movies, and being force fed leftie lies by radical fools.

I think you're getting confused between Beijing and Las Vegas. This sort of juvenile, anti-social behaviour is not what happens in America when people exercise their right to free speech.

[Spliffdaddy]

Nah, it only happens when liberals mention Michael Moore.

[typoon]

It was a concert, Singers should leave there political views out of it no matter who it is for or against. I wonder if the Hotel is going to sue her for damges caused by those she insighted.

[cpt kangarooski]

I wonder if she's going to sue the venue for breech.

[Randman]

I'm surprised people would still pay to see her in concert in the first place. Love the part about her not even being allowed to return to her suite.

[typoon]

If the last part of this is true she already had 2 strikes against her. Mr Timmins had it right on.

"Timmins told Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist.

"Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."

Continued Timmins: "Our first and only priority is the enjoyment of our customers. I made the decision to ask Miss Ronstadt to leave the hotel. A situation like that can easily turn ugly and I didn't want anything more to come out of it. There were a lot of angry people there after she started talking.

"If she wants to talk about her views to a newspaper or in a magazine article, she is free to do so. But in a stage in front of four and a half thousand people is not the place for it."

Aladdin spokeswoman Tyri Squyres said Ronstadt didn't make a scene when being ejected from the hotel.

"She wasn't happy, but she was cooperative," Squyres said.

According to a report in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Ronstadt also made disparaging remarks about Las Vegas and Aladdin during the show."

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by typoon:
"Timmins told Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist.

"Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."

That’s the thing about some leftists though. They seem to believe that freedom of speech means: “I (the leftist) have the freedom to say whatever I want, whenever I want, even when I’m being hired by someone to perform, not spout politics, but YOU (all those evil Right-Wing conspirators) don’t have the freedom to disagree, or freedom of speech to tell me to go take a flying leap and that you didn’t pay to be a captive audience to leftist propaganda.”

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally posted by typoon:
If the last part of this is true she already had 2 strikes against her. Mr Timmins had it right on.

"Timmins told Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist.

"Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."

Continued Timmins: "Our first and only priority is the enjoyment of our customers. I made the decision to ask Miss Ronstadt to leave the hotel. A situation like that can easily turn ugly and I didn't want anything more to come out of it. There were a lot of angry people there after she started talking.

"If she wants to talk about her views to a newspaper or in a magazine article, she is free to do so. But in a stage in front of four and a half thousand people is not the place for it."

Aladdin spokeswoman Tyri Squyres said Ronstadt didn't make a scene when being ejected from the hotel.

"She wasn't happy, but she was cooperative," Squyres said.

According to a report in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Ronstadt also made disparaging remarks about Las Vegas and Aladdin during the show."

She got what was coming to her. She was *hired* to put on a show, not be a political commentator. Her speech, as an entertainer, is only as free as the person hiring her wants it to be. She is just a typical "star" by over-reaching with her own sense of self-importance.

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally posted by typoon:
"Timmins told Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist.

"Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
That’s the thing about some leftists though. They seem to believe that freedom of speech means: “I (the leftist) have the freedom to say whatever I want, whenever I want, even when I’m being hired by someone to perform, not spout politics, but YOU (all those evil Right-Wing conspirators) don’t have the freedom to disagree, or freedom of speech to tell me to go take a flying leap and that you didn’t pay to be a captive audience to leftist propaganda.”

Change leftist/leftie to rightie and you've got the same thing. Both ends of the spectrum have plenty of adherents who don't want the other side to have their voice heard. It's not just the lefties.

[Invictus]

Perhaps people should find out about things before posting:

She was only doing 1 show.

Only 1/4 of the people walked out on the song, 3/4 stayed.

The complainers acted like morons throwing drinks and tearing down posters (probably pissed-up Republicans).

She wanted to get fired...been trying for awhile.

Soooo...3/4 stayed, the people who walked out were drunkish boors, she succeeded in her wish to be fired (probably a contractual thing she wanted out of).

Also many who walked out were hoping to hear her "Greatest Hits"...she's changed her style in the las 20 years to Spanish music and other stuffs.

Way over blown and more foolish looking for the people who walked out and for the original poster and thread starter.

But that's normal.





LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Singer Linda Ronstadt was thrown out of the Aladdin casino in Las Vegas on the weekend after dedicating a song to liberal filmmaker Michael Moore and his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11," a casino spokeswoman said Monday.

Ronstadt, who had been hired for a one-show engagement Saturday night at the Las Vegas Strip casino, dedicated a performance of "Desperado" to Moore and his controversial documentary, which criticizes President Bush and the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

That dedication angered some Aladdin guests who spilled drinks, tore down posters and demanded their money back, said casino spokeswoman Sara Gorgon.

"We had quite a scene at the box office," she said.

About a quarter of the 4,500 people in the audience got up and left before the performance had finished, Gorgon said.

Before her concert, Ronstadt had laughingly told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that she hoped that the casino performance would be her last.

"I keep hoping that if I'm annoying enough to them, they won't hire me back," she was quoted as telling the newspaper.

A statement issued by the Aladdin said Ronstadt had been "escorted out of the hotel" just after her performance and said the performer would "not be welcomed back."

"Ms. Ronstadt was hired to entertain the guests of the Aladdin, not to espouse political views," the casino said.

Ronstadt was not immediately available for comment.

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Leftie L. Ronstadt and Moore lover caused chaos in Vegas !
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They had to shut down Vegas because of all the CHAOS! LoLing




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[Invictus]

Oh no the CHAOS!!!

It's spreading like a deadly virus. Vegas has degenerated into total anarchy. Hundreds have been arrested. Aliens have been spotted at the blackjack tables...

News at eleven...

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Invictus:
Oh no the CHAOS!!!

It's spreading like a deadly virus. Vegas has degenerated into total anarchy. Hundreds have been arrested. Aliens have been spotted at the blackjack tables...

News at eleven...

What are those people originally crying about ? You must not be a very nice person.

[angaq0k]

Originally posted by PacHead:

That's what happens when lying lefties try to force their perverted and sick, demented opinions upon other clear thinking people who do not like propaganda movies, and being force fed leftie lies by radical fools.

A Fox once saw a Crow fly off with a piece of cheese in its beak and settle on a branch of a tree. "That's for me, as I am a Fox," said Master Reynard, and he walked up to the foot of the tree.

"Good-day, Mistress Crow," he cried. "How well you are looking to-day: how glossy your feathers; how bright your eye. I feel sure your voice must surpass that of other birds, just as your figure does; let me hear but one song from you that I may greet you as the Queen of Birds."

The Crow lifted up her beak and began to caw her best, but the moment she opened her mouth the piece of cheese fell to the ground, only to be snapped up by Master Fox. "That will do," said he. "That was all I wanted. In exchange for your cheese I will give you a piece of advice for the future ...

With such colorful language, why bother with content?

[Gee-Man]

Ok, now it's official - some of you guys on the right have gone completely bonkers. I guess all those years of tagging (sometimes accurately) the left-wing types as "politically corrrect", "whiny", and "over-sensitive" has left you completely incapable of seeing the same traits in yourselves?

Lemme get this straight - she dedicated a song to Michael Moore. Said he was a "patriot". And some people, who paid money to see her and surely knew something about her views beforehand, started near-rioting and ripping down posters? Over a song dedication? Jesus H. on a stick, how sensitive are you guys these days, anyway? This has to be one of the most innocuous "political" statements I've heard in a long time.

Between this, the whole "who cares?" Whoopi Goldberg thing, and those incredibly tame remarks by the Dixie Chicks that caused some right-wing types to get all loopy a while back, the right-wing and the Republicans have managed to out-whine even the hardcore Birkenstock hippy left at their worst, a feat I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. Some of you guys need to step back and take a serious long look at yourselves. Outrage over Bush-Hitler comparisons? Fine, I get that. But outrage over an entertainer basically saying "I like Michael Moore?" Jeez...

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Awww gee. Just when the left thought it had something to get up on its high horse about and pretend to be all high and mighty… PUNK’D AGAIN!


Link

Singer Linda Ronstadt was not asked to leave a Las Vegas casino Saturday after she endorsed Michael Moore's controversial film "Fahrenheit 9/11," the Tucson native told the Tucson Citizen yesterday.
And she was not booed off the stage by a concert crowd that had erupted in mayhem, she said.

Speaking by phone from San Francisco, Ronstadt said that she left the Aladdin Resort & Casino immediately after the concert and was not aware that the management was irritated by her comments until an hour after she left the show.

The Los Angeles Times and Associated Press reported that Ronstadt was escorted off the property, not allowed to return to her room and booed off the stage and that people were throwing drinks by the close of her show.

None of those things happened, she said.

Too damned funny!

I think the whole stinking thing was just some lame ass publicity stunt someone cooked up to get some desperately needed press for a VH1 'Where Are They Now?(and who the F cares)' prime candidate.

[Gee-Man]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
Awww gee. Just when the left thought it had something to get up on its high horse about and pretend to be all high and mighty… PUNK’D AGAIN!


Link


Too damned funny!

I think the whole stinking thing was just some lame ass publicity stunt someone cooked up to get some desperately needed press for a VH1 'Where Are They Now?(and who the F cares)' prime candidate.

Well, good. I'm glad people haven't gone completely bonkers, this makes me feel better.

But I think you've read the story completely backwards - the "left" didn't get punk'd, the right did! The original poster thought this was a positive story, remember?

That's what happens when lying lefties try to force their perverted and sick, demented opinions upon other clear thinking people who do not like propaganda movies, and being force fed leftie lies by radical fools.

You're obviously a smart guy, you clearly realize that this story, if it was true, would not have reflected positively on the reactions of the right to simple remarks... funny that you'd spin it as somehow making the left look bad.

As for a PR stunt, Linda Rondstadt didn't put out the original press release, the owners of the Aladdin did, Rondstadt corrected the error herself later (notice that the original story has no comment from Rondstadt's people). However, there was a prominent comment from the owner of the Aladdin:

"It was a very ugly scene," Aladdin President Bill Timmins said later. "She praised him and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose."

If this was a total lie, then it sounds like somebody at the hotel who was more interested in a PR stunt than Rondstadt.

[Spliffdaddy]

I'm not inclined to believe what Linda Ronstadt has to say - given the choice between her story and that of the President of Aladdin Casino.

[OldManMac]

I'm curious about something; why is it that celebrities are excluded from freedom of speech while the rest of the population, many of whom know little of what they speak, are free to say whatever they want? I always thought that freedom of speech included everyone; silly me.

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Published on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 by the Independent / United Kingdom

America Sings a New Song of Celebrity Censorship

by Andrew Gumbel

The scene was the Aladdin Theatre in Las Vegas last Saturday night. Linda Ronstadt, the fifty-something folk-rocker, was just coming to the end of a concert backed by the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra and the crowd gave her a standing ovation.

Then she offered one last song, the old Eagles hit "Desperado", and dedicated it to Michael Moore, the rabble-rousing film-maker whose Bush-bashing documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 has polarized the country like no other cultural event of the early summer.

Suddenly, all hell broke loose. Depending who you believe, either the audience ran out of control or the Aladdin's management did. Either way, the upshot was that Ms Ronstadt was hustled off stage and out of the building and told she would not be welcome back, now or ever again. She was not even allowed to return to her hotel room to pack. Hotel employees checked out for her instead.

"We needed her off the property," hotel spokeswoman Tyri Squyres told local reporters. "She wanted to incite the audience, and she incited them to the point where they were very upset."

Hard though it is to imagine a diminutive middle-aged woman with a bob haircut and a honey-sweet voice starting a riot in America's very own Sin City, the Ronstadt Affair seems destined to go down as the latest surreal episode to mark this contentious, jumpily hostile election season.

Ms Ronstadt's fellow liberal entertainers were quick to cry foul yesterday about suppression of free speech and what they see as a climate of fear fostered by the Bush administration. (Ms Ronstadt herself has chosen not to comment.) The blow-hard opinion makers on the other side, meanwhile, were equally quick to accuse her of woefully misreading her audience and turning what was meant to be a pleasant piece of musical entertainment into a wholly inappropriate piece of political grandstanding.

Amid the furore, it was almost impossible to discern what actually happened in those fateful few minutes last Saturday night. According to the Aladdin's president, an expatriate Brit called Bill Timmins, Ms Ronstadt's dedication to Michael Moore - and her urging that everyone who has not yet gone to see the film do so -- pushed the audience into a frenzy of indignation. Soon they were throwing cups at the stage, storming out of the auditorium en masse and ripping down promotional posters as they stomped to the box-office to demand their money back.

"It was a very ugly scene," Mr Timmins, who was in the audience himself, told the Associated Press. Ms Ronstadt, he charged, "spoiled a wonderful evening for our guests and we had to do something about it". It was his decision to call security and have the singer escorted out of the building. She was scheduled to play just the one night, so she didn't lose any performances, but Mr Timmins made clear she could forget any future dates at his establishment. "As long as I'm here, she's not going to play," he said.

Not everyone present agreed with Mr Timmins' account, however. Paula Francis, a news anchor on a local television station, told the Las Vegas Review Journal that her experience of the concert was quite different.

"I was so stunned to read in the newspaper that anyone had a negative reaction," she said. "Everyone who was leaving when I was leaving was just thrilled. They thought it was a good concert." At the moment of the Michael Moore dedication, she said, "there were loud boos and there was quite a bit of applause. But everyone calmed down right away and seemed to enjoy the rest of the encore."

Whatever the truth of the matter, it is clear that the atmosphere surrounding performers and celebrities who express their political views - particularly, though not exclusively, when those views are hostile to President Bush -- has deteriorated significantly in recent weeks. A similar spasm of tension and partisan hostility surrounded the entertainment business in the run-up to the Iraq war at the beginning of last year, when radio stations organized a boycott of the country trio The Dixie Chicks and a conservative internet group led by a North Carolina housewife entitled Citizens Against Celebrity Pundits organized letter-writing campaigns to have prominent Hollywood liberals booted out of their jobs and off the airwaves.

The latest round was almost certainly kicked off by the massive wave of publicity surrounding the release of Mr Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11. Despite his protestations to the contrary, Mr Moore's own free speech rights have not suffered one jot and his film has to date taken in just shy of $100m (£53m) at the US box-office - five times as much as his previous record-breaking documentary Bowling For Columbine. But his gleeful needling of the President, both in the film and in the surrounding publicity campaign, have infuriated Bush loyalists and set the scene for a cultural, as well as a political, stand-off in the run-up to the 2 November presidential election.

Earlier this month, the comedian and actress Whoopi Goldberg became a target for Republican Party operatives after she made genitalia jokes about the President's name at a celebrity-studded fundraiser for Democratic candidate John Kerry. Not only did the Republicans denounce the whole affair, at New York's Radio City Music Hall, as a "hate fest" revealing the true colors of both Mr Kerry and the Hollywood establishment. Ms Goldberg also lost her job as a pitch woman for the diet-food company Slimfast, which is based in the electorally sensitive state of Florida where President Bush's brother Jeb is governor.

The issue has been further stirred up by Sir Elton John, who said in an interview with New York magazine this month that he saw an "atmosphere of fear" in the United States like nothing else since the McCarthy red-baiting era of the early 1950s. He said artists were afraid to speak out and had shied away from the kind of anti-government criticism that marked the protest songs and political theatre of the Vietnam War era. "Everyone is too career-conscious. They're all too scared," he said.

Sir Elton's remarks could probably do with a little careful parsing. Although the attacks on performers do indeed raise questions about freedom of speech, they have also been used and abused by people on both sides of the argument to further their own agendas. That has been particularly true of Mr Moore, who expertly manufactured a controversy over the release of Fahrenheit 9/11 to generate invaluable advance publicity - accusing Disney of censorship because the company wanted nothing to do with him and told him to find a distribution deal elsewhere, which he duly did.

Yesterday, Mr Moore leapt on the Ronstadt Affair and somehow managed to make it all his own. On his website he posted the cover of Ms Ronstadt's album Living In The USA and added the slogan: "Thank-you Linda Ronstadt!" He also posted an open letter to Mr Timmins of the Aladdin, taking him to task for gross over-reaction.

"What country do you live in?" Mr Moore wrote. "Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called the First Amendment. This constitutional right gives everyone here the right to say whatever they want to say.... For you to throw Linda Ronstadt off the premises because she dared to say a few words in support of me and my film, is simply stupid and un-American. Frankly, I have never heard of such a thing happening."

The Aladdin quickly sought to deny that it was suppressing anybody's rights. "It did not come down to the statements she had said, per se," a spokeswoman said. "It's about using our venue for political commentary versus being an entertainer. She was hired to entertain, not to preach."

That explanation, in turn, seems a little disingenuous, since Ms Ronstadt has been dedicating Desperado to Mr Moore throughout her current tour and announced the fact in an interview with the Las Vegas Review-Journal published last Friday, the day before her concert: "They say the country is evenly divided, and boy is that true. One half of the audience cheers and the other half boos," she said.

She added: "I don't understand this country sometimes and I really fear for it. The government is making everybody in the world hate us, including the people that used to be our friends."

Besides her music, Ms Ronstadt's political views are probably the best-known thing about her. In the 1970s she had a much-publicized romance with Jerry Brown, the liberal governor of California who went on to make two unsuccessful runs for the presidency. In a show in San Diego on Sunday night, she made overt references to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's recent attacks on "girlie men" in the state legislature. Her dedication to Michael Moore - which she clearly has no intention of dropping - split her audience in two but caused no undue ructions, according to an account in the San Diego Union-Tribune.

As Ms Ronstadt's experience shows, the atmosphere in the United States is not one of systematic censorship so much as extreme volatility: there is no knowing when a political statement is going to cause an adverse reaction. The Dixie Chicks episode, triggered by a comment made on a London stage by lead singer Natalie Maines, who told the audience she was ashamed to come from President Bush's home state of Texas, might have been a non-event but for the concerted efforts of a handful of online Bush supporters and the sympathetic hearing they received from pro-administration radio station owners.

One radio chain, Cumulus Media, even arranged for a tractor to crush Dixie Chicks CDs, tapes and videos in an episode that was so extreme as to backfire. The trio, buoyed by the torrent of publicity, was soon back on the top of the charts and was even honored by a neologism - dixie-chicked - to denote anyone unlucky enough to suffer a political hate campaign.

Whoopi Goldberg appears to have been a victim of another such concerted campaign, this time arranged by the Republican National Committee. Her liberal politics and dirty mouth are hardly secrets to anyone who has followed her career with even minimal attention over the past 15 years or so, and one imagines that Slimfast knew what they were taking on when they hired her to speak on their behalf.

In an interview with the New York Daily News immediately after the furore, she pointed out the manufactured nature of the outrage. "America's heart and soul is freedom of expression without fear of reprisal, I find all this feigned indignation about 'Bush bashing' quite disingenuous," she said. "For the Republican Party to pretend this is new to them seems a little fake."

Fake it may be, but we can expect plenty more of the same between now and November.

[Spliffdaddy]

I don't have freedom of speech where I work.

Don't know many folks who do.

Trust me, if I were to dedicate my next meeting to Michael Moore and rant about Fahrenheit911 _ I'd prolly be sent home, just like Linda.

[UNTeMac]

It's still pathetic that people would react so childishly to one sentence in a concert. I think some conservatives in this country have become the whiners. Notice, I didn't grossly over-generalize and say "the right" as many in here are so fond of doing to "the left."

[Dale Sorel]

Originally posted by PacHead:
You must not be a very nice person.

Welcome to the Internet

[zigzag]

Sounds like the Aladdin management was scared of a little political controversy and over-reacted. They have the right to control what goes on in their facility, but as the article points out, Ronstadt has always been political and apparently had been doing her show the same way all along. Somebody in the casino f*cked up and Ronstadt ended up paying for it. You don't hire Linda Ronstadt without expecting a little political commentary.

Maybe some of the blame rests with that part of the audience that was reportedly vandalizing the place? I was under the impression that only lefties did that sort of thing.

I would bet that there was a high-roller and/or politico in the audience who complained to management. I'm guessing Bill Bennett, high-stakes gambler and protector of all that is virtuous.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by Gee-Man:
But I think you've read the story completely backwards - the "left" didn't get punk'd, the right did! The original poster thought this was a positive story, remember?

Nah, actually I was referring mostly to your wanna-be high-horse comments. The thing went from a few people booing and tearing down some posters (ohhhh the horror!! Will Democracy survive?!) to you self-righteously assigning 'near-rioting' status (BWHAHAHAHAHA!) to Ronstadt's own assessment that the whole damned thing never even happened!

Okay, I should revise my statement though- everybody got PUNK'D, not just the left. That anyone still believes any of this with any conviction when the 'facts' are so all over the freakin' place is just witness to the fact that people will buy whatever they wish to believe no matter what. THis has got 'manufactured marketing' stink all over it.

If this was a total lie, then it sounds like somebody at the hotel who was more interested in a PR stunt than Rondstadt.

Well, considering that:

Thanks to negotiations today (July 21) between the Recording Artists Coalition (RAC) and the prospective new owners of Las Vegas's Alladin Theater, expect to see RAC member Linda Ronstadt back at the venue this fall -- with filmmaker Michael Moore on backup vocals.

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

Not only does this whole story stink, it even has the rat-droppings of the fat one himself all over it!

Come on, is anyone still buying any of this? We have has-been singer who couldn't pay to get arrested, let alone have anyone give a rat's ass what her political opinion is, suddenly get a huge amount of hype over some staged 'incident'; suddenly have it seem as if her political views matter to anyone; and all just in time for Michael Moore to make a pre-arranged appearance and hype an act for a new management team in a city built on shameless hype!

It's sounding straight out of the sham-left's playbook: 'manufacture a 'crisis', act like a victim over the results, and excuse any lie, hype and/or fabrication you've perpetrated along the way as justified because you were able to 'get your message heard'.

Given Moore’s track-record for manufactured hype swirling around most anything he touches, I wouldn’t be surprised if he paid some old farts to pretend to ‘riot’ to jumpstart this whole goofy charade!

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

[OldManMac]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
Nah, actually I was referring mostly to your wanna-be high-horse comments. The thing went from a few people booing and tearing down some posters (ohhhh the horror!! Will Democracy survive?!) to you self-righteously assigning 'near-rioting' status (BWHAHAHAHAHA!) to Ronstadt's own assessment that the whole damned thing never even happened!

Okay, I should revise my statement though- everybody got PUNK'D, not just the left. That anyone still believes any of this with any conviction when the 'facts' are so all over the freakin' place is just witness to the fact that people will buy whatever they wish to believe no matter what. THis has got 'manufactured marketing' stink all over it.


Well, considering that:

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

Not only does this whole story stink, it even has the rat-droppings of the fat one himself all over it!

Come on, is anyone still buying any of this? We have has-been singer who couldn't pay to get arrested, let alone have anyone give a rat's ass what her political opinion is, suddenly get a huge amount of hype over some staged 'incident'; suddenly have it seem as if her political views matter to anyone; and all just in time for Michael Moore to make a pre-arranged appearance and hype an act for a new management team in a city built on shameless hype!

It's sounding straight out of the sham-left's playbook: 'manufacture a 'crisis', act like a victim over the results, and excuse any lie, hype and/or fabrication you've perpetrated along the way as justified because you were able to 'get your message heard'.

Given Moore’s track-record for manufactured hype swirling around most anything he touches, I wouldn’t be surprised if he paid some old farts to pretend to ‘riot’ to jumpstart this whole goofy charade!

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

Not bad; too bad it's only in your mind.

[Invictus]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
Nah, actually I was referring mostly to your wanna-be high-horse comments. The thing went from a few people booing and tearing down some posters (ohhhh the horror!! Will Democracy survive?!) to you self-righteously assigning 'near-rioting' status (BWHAHAHAHAHA!) to Ronstadt's own assessment that the whole damned thing never even happened!

Okay, I should revise my statement though- everybody got PUNK'D, not just the left. That anyone still believes any of this with any conviction when the 'facts' are so all over the freakin' place is just witness to the fact that people will buy whatever they wish to believe no matter what. THis has got 'manufactured marketing' stink all over it.
Not only does this whole story stink, it even has the rat-droppings of the fat one himself all over it!

Actually it was thread starter PacHead who claimed pandemonium and chaos rained down on Las Vegas.

Topic: Leftie L. Ronstadt and Moore lover caused chaos in Vegas !

As it turned out it was some screwy Aladdin employee who tried to hold her there against her will until a deranged manager arrived who wanted to exorcise her.

Ironically this will help her carreer (financially). Any kind of publicity is good publicity. Tickets for her tour have been selling better.

[Gee-Man]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
Nah, actually I was referring mostly to your wanna-be high-horse comments. The thing went from a few people booing and tearing down some posters (ohhhh the horror!! Will Democracy survive?!) to you self-righteously assigning 'near-rioting' status (BWHAHAHAHAHA!) to Ronstadt's own assessment that the whole damned thing never even happened!

Sorry, you are wrong. I never "self-righteously assigned 'near-rioting' status" to anything - the original story and PacHead did. I just commented on what THEY originally said happened (NOT what Rondstadt said - that was YOU not me!), which may have turned out to be made up. In case you forgot to scroll up:

Originally posted by PacHead:
Under a concert performance in Las Vegas, the aging folk singer caused a near riot when she called the liar Michael Moore "a great American patriot", and "someone who is spreading the truth". She also dedicated a song to the liar.

Get your facts straight before you call anyone self-righteous.

The funny thing is, we're probably in agreement on this for the most part. From what I can tell, we both think the whole thing is a stupid over-reaction, compared to, say, PacHead who thinks it's a great thing, but the difference is that you think the over-reaction is some kind of left-wing conspiracy designed for PR while I think some people should get over themselves in general, on the left AND right. I got on my "high horse" to comment on what I see as politically correct whining, doesn't matter where it comes from.

Not only does this whole story stink, it even has the rat-droppings of the fat one himself all over it!

Come on, is anyone still buying any of this? We have has-been singer who couldn't pay to get arrested, let alone have anyone give a rat's ass what her political opinion is, suddenly get a huge amount of hype over some staged 'incident'; suddenly have it seem as if her political views matter to anyone; and all just in time for Michael Moore to make a pre-arranged appearance and hype an act for a new management team in a city built on shameless hype!

It's sounding straight out of the sham-left's playbook: 'manufacture a 'crisis', act like a victim over the results, and excuse any lie, hype and/or fabrication you've perpetrated along the way as justified because you were able to 'get your message heard'.

Given Moore’s track-record for manufactured hype swirling around most anything he touches, I wouldn’t be surprised if he paid some old farts to pretend to ‘riot’ to jumpstart this whole goofy charade!

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

It's quite creative. Too bad it's a fantasy. Moore paying people to pretend to riot? As you might put it, BWHAHAHAHAHA!

[Invictus]

Bonnie Raitt's song dedication to Bush cheered...


STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) -- Winding up her summer tour across Europe, Bonnie Raitt drew thunderous applause at the Stockholm Jazz Festival for dedicating a classic to U.S. President George W. Bush.

"We're gonna sing this for George Bush because he's out of here, people!" Raitt crowed Tuesday night before she launched into the opening licks of Your Good Thing (Is About to End), a cover that was featured on her 1979 album, The Glow.

The song, written by Isaac Hayes and David Porter, has been sung by several notable performers, including Mable John and Lou Rawls.

Raitt's comments resulted in a round of applause and even whistles from among the estimated 3,000 concertgoers at the Swedish capital's annual jazz event held on the banks of the downtown Skeppsholmen island.

Swedes are skeptical of Bush, and the Scandinavian country refused to support his efforts in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

The Grammy-winning singer is no stranger to political activism. Her website urges fans to learn more about preserving the environment and she was a founding member of MUSE, or Musicians United for Save Energy.

http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/jul22_bonnie-ap.html

[Spliffdaddy]

Sweden: Leading the way in world opinion since...um...since..well, ok their opinion means slightly less than the opinion of Norway and probably a bit more than the opinion of Iceland. The Swedes were actually cheering Bonnie Rait - a testament to the fact that she hadn't yet started singing.

[OldManMac]

Bonnie rocks!

[Spliffdaddy]

actually, I kinda like her voice.

what's starting to bother me is the fact that nearly every musician I like has some sort of anti-Bush hang-up. I'm going to see Dave Matthews Band this Saturday. I *guarantee* he says something negative about Bush. I'll still listen to his music. and I'll still like it. But, damn, Dave. Don't make me spend $43 to hear your music AND a longwinded rant about hugging trees and saving snail-darters and voting Bush out of office.

sheesh.

He buys like ten thousand acres of land in Virginia and then he uses lyrics like "give more than you take" or some crap like that. um, ok Dave. Mr #3 highest-grossing musician in the freakin world. How about *you* feed the hungry mofos with your NINE figure income.

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Originally posted by PacHead:
Under a concert performance in Las Vegas, the aging folk singer caused a near riot when she called the liar Michael Moore "a great American patriot", and "someone who is spreading the truth". She also dedicated a song to the liar.

Apparently, people are sick of these liars and many of the 4500 audience members began to boo and started a near riot scene.

Okay, I am used to ridiculous threads being started about WMD found in Iraq. Which these days are then discredited within minutes. Now we have posts on email scams ('send me money to support the troops') and even false rumors about casino shows. Why is everyone so gullible? Is it so hard to find a reliable source for news?

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
PUNK’D AGAIN!

Indeed, yet another post from a "rightie" which turns out to be completely wrong. Over and over, some people will never learn.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by Gee-Man:
Sorry, you are wrong. I never "self-righteously assigned 'near-rioting' status" to anything - the original story and PacHead did.

Originally posted by Gee-Man:
And some people, who paid money to see her and surely knew something about her views beforehand, started near-rioting and ripping down posters?

Apparently not.

Anyway, you're right Pachead assigned the ‘near-riot’ status; you just parroted it and made your self-righteous 'bonkers' statement which was what I responded to given the fact that you were had. (And others who snidely insisted others 'get the facts' before posting, but clearly didn't themselves).

Anyway relax, I revised myself and said both sides were PUNK'D on this one.

[PacHead]

As for the "riot" comment, that is taken from the article itself. I do not make things up, and I am more honest and truthful than Michael Moore will ever be.

That didn’t go over very well with the crowd of 4,500 who began to boo and then turned the showroom into a near riot scene.

[Invictus]

Originally posted by Gee-Man:
And some people, who paid money to see her and surely knew something about her views beforehand, started near-rioting and ripping down posters?

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
Apparently not.

Anyway, you're right Pachead assigned the ‘near-riot’ status; you just parroted it and made your self-righteous 'bonkers' statement which was what I responded to given the fact that you were had. (And others who snidely insisted others 'get the facts' before posting, but clearly didn't themselves).

Gee-Man didn't parrot it, he questioned it. Note the 'Question Mark'

"started near-rioting and ripping down posters?"

Nice try on the spin job...or maybe you just had a comprehension problem or you wanted to make your own "self-righteous 'bonkers' statement"

Anyways thanx for the post, I had a chuckle. Oh and I made a few things bold for you to help if you do have problem with comprehension.