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Jul 28, 2004, 01:10 PM
 
this will short & with typos --i have one arm in sling due to auto aacisent, not used to hunt-n-peck typing


we should look at what they fear the most 9and we can determine this by what issues have the most virulent right wing PR pogroms:

1. strong, intelligent women (hillary, theresa, etc.)
2. Documentaries that expose the truth (fahrenheit 9/11
3. homsexuals and gay marriage
4. comedians or humor
5. non-white people with accents
6. criticism or disagreement
7. whistleblowers

now, if we analyze further that list we come up with an apt description, by assuming they are the antithesis of what they fear....;

1. misogynist
2. lying
3. homophobic
4. humorless
5. racist or etnocentric
6. hive-minded
7. cya artists

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Jul 28, 2004, 01:12 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
i have one arm in sling due to auto aacisent,
Aw, man!

What happened this time!?

     
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Jul 28, 2004, 01:13 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Aw, man!

What happened this time!?

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Jul 28, 2004, 01:19 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Aw, man!

What happened this time!?

last friday a woman ran a red light, t-boned my car and fractured my collar bone.
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 01:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
last friday a woman ran a red light, t-boned my car and fractured my collar bone.
Shite.

I hope your neck is okay?
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 01:29 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
last friday a woman ran a red light, t-boned my car and fractured my collar bone.
Get well soon, Lerk.

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Jul 28, 2004, 02:01 PM
 
Okay then.
Things Communists (like yourself) fear the most:
1. Workers keeping the money they make
2. Workers not a slave to a government
3. Workers smart enough to realize 1 & 2
4. Workers using that knowledge to speak out
5. Morality
6. Religion in general, specifically Christianity and Judaism
7. Strong intellectual men AND women
8. Quotes that expose the "whistleblowers" as greedy, fat, fascist, communists
9. Heterosexuality
10. Non-promiscuous homosexuals
11. People making more than $100,000 a year (net)
12. A conservative or moderate media
13. Lack of PC tendencies
14. Hate of the "counter-culture"
15. George Carlin haters
16. Blue collar workers

Discus.

BTW, this thread was pointless.
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:02 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
this will short & with typos --i have one arm in sling due to auto aacisent, not used to hunt-n-peck typing


we should look at what they fear the most 9and we can determine this by what issues have the most virulent right wing PR pogroms:

1. strong, intelligent women (hillary, theresa, etc.)
2. Documentaries that expose the truth (fahrenheit 9/11
3. homsexuals and gay marriage
4. comedians or humor
5. non-white people with accents
6. criticism or disagreement
7. whistleblowers

now, if we analyze further that list we come up with an apt description, by assuming they are the antithesis of what they fear....;

1. misogynist
2. lying
3. homophobic
4. humorless
5. racist or etnocentric
6. hive-minded
7. cya artists

discuss
Kinda describes Conservative ideology too.

Oh and sorry to hear about the accident, I'm surprised the car's spideysense didn't kick in.
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:03 PM
 
Originally posted by Tater Salad:

Communists (like yourself)
Hehe. Where's old Joe McCarthy when you guys need him?
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:04 PM
 
Originally posted by Tater Salad:
Okay then.
Things Communists (like yourself) fear the most:
9. Heterosexuality
Well, if you believe that, what the hell are you worried about??

In your mind, the problem will have solved itself by next generation.
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:08 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
this will short & with typos --i have one arm in sling due to auto aacisent, not used to hunt-n-peck typing


we should look at what they fear the most 9and we can determine this by what issues have the most virulent right wing PR pogroms:

1. strong, intelligent women (hillary, theresa, etc.)
2. Documentaries that expose the truth (fahrenheit 9/11
3. homsexuals and gay marriage
4. comedians or humor
5. non-white people with accents
6. criticism or disagreement
7. whistleblowers

1. I for one have no problem with Strong,intelligent women. (Condeleeza Rice, Christie Whitman, Elaine Chow, etc.)

2. I also have nothing wrong with documentaries that expose the truth but Farenheit 9/11 didn't have much truth in it.

3. I have no problem against homosexuals but I do have a problem with the radical ones.

4. Comedians or humor. Again I don't have a problem with it. It's just when it stoops to the level Whoopi brought it to that I have a problem with it.

5. non-white people with accents, Where did you get this one from?

6. Criticisim or disagreement- Same thing could be said about the other side.
7. Whistleblowers- If it's for the right reasons and there is proof to back it up.
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:10 PM
 
Originally posted by typoon:
I have no problem against homosexuals but I do have a problem with the radical ones.
Please do explain. We can't wait.
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:14 PM
 
Joe McCarthy, eh? So be it. Since mac users' politics is usually way left of PC users, and since you're way left of left, it can be assumed. If you call out criticism to the far right, then you are obviously on the far left. And since Communist is on the left, and Republican (not the party) is on the right, then I guess you fall there.
BTW, Nazis aren't far right, if that's what you were going to call me. Maybe some research would do you guys some good.
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:23 PM
 
Originally posted by Tater Salad:
and since you're way left of left, it can be assumed.
Well, as the old saying goes, you make an ASS out of U...we can just stop there. As much as you'd like to think I'm a left-winger, nothing could be further from the truth. I'm a centrist at best. I just happen to think Shrub is a maniac, a dullard, and a liar. At a time where I'd love to vote for a Republican who has a strong background in military philosophy and foreign affairs, I'm left with a nutcake who still hasn't tracked down the most wanted man on earth...the TRUE biggest threat to our safety. Clinton was a failure before him for not even trying, and Dubbya is an even greater failure for trying...failing....and then all but giving the f*ck up. Failure. True, that I can't bring myself to view Kerry as being much better, but your beloved president better hope he can add more people like me to his tally, or it's one term like Daddy (a much better president).
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:28 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Well, if you believe that, what the hell are you worried about??

In your mind, the problem will have solved itself by next generation.
A post so nice, I'll repost it.

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Jul 28, 2004, 02:29 PM
 
Originally posted by Tater Salad:
Joe McCarthy, eh? So be it. Since mac users' politics is usually way left of PC users, and since you're way left of left, it can be assumed. If you call out criticism to the far right, then you are obviously on the far left. And since Communist is on the left, and Republican (not the party) is on the right, then I guess you fall there.
BTW, Nazis aren't far right, if that's what you were going to call me. Maybe some research would do you guys some good.
Likewise, likewise.

Did you have to label your fingers to get all that muddled through?
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:40 PM
 
English please? Sometimes its better to be direct that to joke, because that post didn't make any sense. Labeled fingers?

My post was directed to leker. And 43 is better than 41, since 43 has more of a vision that 41. And he cut taxes. 41 raised em, unfortunately.
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 02:45 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Shite.

I hope your neck is okay?
hopefully. got more x-rays this morning and seeing ortho spec next wednesday
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 07:22 PM
 
Originally posted by Tater Salad:
Okay then.
Things Communists (like yourself) fear the most:
1. Workers keeping the money they make
2. Workers not a slave to a government
3. Workers smart enough to realize 1 & 2
4. Workers using that knowledge to speak out
5. Morality
6. Religion in general, specifically Christianity and Judaism
7. Strong intellectual men AND women
8. Quotes that expose the "whistleblowers" as greedy, fat, fascist, communists
9. Heterosexuality
10. Non-promiscuous homosexuals
11. People making more than $100,000 a year (net)
12. A conservative or moderate media
13. Lack of PC tendencies
14. Hate of the "counter-culture"
15. George Carlin haters
16. Blue collar workers

Discus.

BTW, this thread was pointless.
heh. That was better than the original post.

     
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Jul 28, 2004, 07:29 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
we should look at what they fear the most 9and we can determine this by what issues have the most virulent right wing PR pogroms:

1. strong, intelligent women (hillary, theresa, etc.)
Hillary and Teresa are strong or intelligent? Would they be where they are without riding the coattails of some man? Quite ironic, I think.

2. Documentaries that expose the truth (fahrenheit 9/11
Truth? Buahahahahaha.

3. homsexuals and gay marriage
Nice of you to smear everyone on the right like this (myself included).

4. comedians or humor
Matt Foley, motivational speaker. May he rest in peace.

5. non-white people with accents
My wife isn't white.

6. criticism or disagreement
I disagree.

7. whistleblowers
Versus snitches?

now, if we analyze further that list we come up with an apt description, by assuming they are the antithesis of what they fear....;

1. misogynist
2. lying
3. homophobic
4. humorless
5. racist or etnocentric
6. hive-minded
7. cya artists

discuss
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Jul 28, 2004, 07:30 PM
 
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Jul 28, 2004, 09:23 PM
 
Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
Get well soon, Lerk.

BG
I second that wholeheartedly!

Hope the lady is OK as well..
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Jul 28, 2004, 09:47 PM
 
Get well Lerkfish.

I'm a right wing/centrist that would vote republican in the US but Shrubbie I can't stand. Many right wing members on this forum are afraid to admit that the current president is incompetent and even going so far in Shrubbie's defence that they try to deface leaders that are very intelligent and competent to be like Sr. José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. Sad that.
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Originally posted by Tater Salad:
Alas, these mods will ban me, if they're anything like the Gestapo mods from the last board I used to like. Oh well. Only proves my point (see above quote of my post).
     
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Jul 28, 2004, 10:39 PM
 
Originally posted by Tater Salad:
Okay then.
Things Communists (like yourself) fear the most:
1. Capitalists keeping the money workers make for them
2. Workers not a slave to their bosses
3. Workers smart enough to realize 1 & 2
4. Workers not using that knowledge to form unions to deal with their bosses on more equal footing.
5. Eurocentric, Judeo-Christian Morality being forced, as law, down the throats of everyone in a country where church and state are supposed to be separate.
6. Religion in general, specifically Christianity and Judaism when it is used as means of control
7. Strong intellectual men AND women who use their intellect to f#ck people over and try their darndest to avoid doing anything for the common good so they can get that Hummer H2 they've been dreaming of
8. Quotes that expose the "whistleblowers" as greedy, fat, fascist, capitalists
9. Heterosexuality that is enforced as law
10. Non-promiscuous homosexuals. Just ask Dubya .. he loves non-promiscuous homosexuals so much that he wants a constitutional amendment banning their recognition by the government as legitimate life mates.
11. People making more than $100,000 a year (net) who gain that money from means other than work (inheritance, investments in companies that squander labor and the environment for their personal gain)
12. A conservative or moderate media that espouses a corporate message -- after all, that's who's keeping them in business with their advertising dollars.
13. Lack of PC tendencies when it comes to people's rights and livelihoods.
14. Hate of the "corporate-culture"
15. George Carlin haters
16. Blue collar workers who are regularly asked to work OT without pay or who work full time (or more) yet still don't have access to healthcare.

Discuss.

BTW, this thread was pointless.
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Jul 29, 2004, 12:59 AM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
this will short & with typos --i have one arm in sling due to auto aacisent, not used to hunt-n-peck typing
Does it hurt to use a one button mouse to highlight a mistake to fix it before posting or are you this remiss in your day job?

Originally posted by Lerkfish:

we should look at what they fear the most 9and we can determine this by what issues have the most virulent right wing PR pogroms:

1. strong, intelligent women (hillary, theresa, etc.)
2. Documentaries (note he can spell documentaries yet has a problem with the word programs) that expose the truth (fahrenheit 9/11
3. homsexuals and gay marriage
4. comedians or humor
5. non-white people with accents
6. criticism or disagreement
7. whistleblowers

now, if we analyze further that list we come up with an apt description, by assuming they are the antithesis of what they fear....;

1. misogynist
2. lying
3. homophobic
4. humorless
5. racist or etnocentric
6. hive-minded
7. cya artists

discuss
When I read a bigoted post like this I must assume that you have isolated yourself from dealing with anyone whose opinion you disagree with much less have the nerve to "discuss". Seriously do you not have any conservative friends? If so I doubt that they would enjoy you lumping them into such an overly generalized group.
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 01:07 AM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
last friday a woman ran a red light, t-boned my car and fractured my collar bone.
Why are you making it a point that it was a woman who hit you? Are you implying women are bad drivers?
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 01:40 AM
 
I didn't sense any implication—sounded like he was just stating what happened. Would you have preferred he said a "person hit me"? What's the big deal? I do believe you, sir, are trolling for an Internet girly fight.
     
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Originally posted by MindFad:
I didn't sense any implication—sounded like he was just stating what happened. Would you have preferred he said a "person hit me"? What's the big deal? I do believe you, sir, are trolling for an Internet girly fight.
And was not his post originally intended to be "trolling for an Internet girly fight"?
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 02:26 AM
 
Originally posted by LoganCharles:
Why are you making it a point that it was a woman who hit you? Are you implying women are bad drivers?
Oh stfu!
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:25 AM
 
Originally posted by LoganCharles:
Why are you making it a point that it was a woman who hit you? Are you implying women are bad drivers?
Seems like you are!
     
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Originally posted by LoganCharles:

When I read a bigoted post like this I must assume that you have isolated yourself from dealing with anyone whose opinion you disagree with much less have the nerve to "discuss". Seriously do you not have any conservative friends? If so I doubt that they would enjoy you lumping them into such an overly generalized group.
I think it's because it is easy/ok to call conservatives these things but Liberals get all bent out of shape when you call/label them certain things. They hate it most when you call them Liberals even though they are.
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Originally posted by Lerkfish:
we should look at what they fear the most 9and we can determine this by what issues have the most virulent right wing PR pogroms:

1. strong, intelligent women (hillary, theresa, etc.)

discuss
Hillary Clinton and Theresa Heinz-Kerry are indeed strong independently minded women. Regarding the current first lady in running; Theresa is a "former" Republican who actually holds many conservative values and is no fan of the legacy liberals. However like Hillary she married a weak man. You must wonder how selfish a woman like Hillary is to stay married to someone with an infidelity streak like Clinton's. Perhaps it is a weakness in herself. More like opportunitism. Hillary realizes she still needs Bill's charisma and clout to further her political goals. Heinz-Kerry realizes that Ketchup alone does not grant political power. That is whats so appealing about both Mrs. Bushes (both the later and present). They are strong willed women who speak elegantly but understand the nature of a wedded relationship is not based on symbiotics. They stand by their man not in waiting.


2. Documentaries that expose the truth (fahrenheit 9/11
It can be questioned whether or not Michael Moore films are documentaries.
More like Op Eds. When I watch a Moore film it reminds me of watching David Letterman. Moore picks at his targets with a grace of an entertainer and yes if you leave yourself defenseless then it is entertaining.


3. homsexuals and gay marriage
Most people have nothing against homosexuals as people. Most however consider it deviant behavior, which it is because it goes against the natural order of things. Like most though I will not hold it against you personally if that's they way you are. With that said, marriage is an institution. If you are conservative then you probably hold this institution close to your heart. Marriage as an institution is the bonding of a woman and a man to procreate.


4. comedians or humor
See above concerning Michael Moore. Comedy should not be confused with morality or ethics.


5. non-white people with accents
What about Danish people? I love their furniture but hate their accents. I do love that Jamacain accent. Ya' man.


6. criticism or disagreement
Would Fahrenheit 9/11 been allowed released in Communist China? Oh yeah it was. I wonder why? Meanwhile the DNC is strong arming NASA to pull photos of Kerry in a decontamination suit because it makes him look silly.


7. whistleblowers
If you have any political savvy then you should know that politics is driven by money. I'm assuming that you're alluding to Richard Clarke. Do you think he would of profited as much from a book deal without 'blowing a whistle'?



now, if we analyze further that list we come up with an apt description, by assuming they are the antithesis of what they fear....;

1. misogynist
2. lying
3. homophobic
4. humorless
5. racist or etnocentric
6. hive-minded
7. cya artists

discuss
Please back up your claims if you wish to further this discussion.

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Jul 29, 2004, 01:09 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
what does the extreme right fear the most?
True freedom.
     
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That's why we're trying to get rid of wasteful spending so people can keep their money.
That's why conservatives hate laws hating guns. You have a right. I'm not against the ownership of assault rifles.
That's why we want vouchers for kids in shitty schools.
That's why we fight against the banning of Christmas, Christian or not. That goes for all religious symbols.

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Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
True freedom.
False.

True freedom is the individual who has control of their destiny within the confines of society. This freedom reigns supreme only in America where the government is flexible to the whims of it's society. When society becomes to open then it turns chaotic. Hence checks and balances.
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 02:23 PM
 
Originally posted by LoganCharles:
Why are you making it a point that it was a woman who hit you? Are you implying women are bad drivers?
because a woman was driving the car that hit me, If a man had done so, i'd have stated it was a man that drove.

simple,eh?

an interesting side note: 6 of your seven posts to date have been in this thread
     
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Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
True freedom.
actually, they only fear true freedom for others.
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 02:59 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
because a woman was driving the car that hit me, If a man had done so, i'd have stated it was a man that drove.

simple,eh?

an interesting side note: 6 of your seven posts to date have been in this thread
You're actually de-railing your own thread. Just shows the original intent was nothing more than trolling for sympathy.

Now to get things back on track please read my response your thread topic.
     
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Originally posted by LoganCharles:
You're actually de-railing your own thread. Just shows the original intent was nothing more than trolling for sympathy.

Now to get things back on track please read my response your thread topic.
LOL. My sentiments exactly.

But, with all due respect to lerk, sorry about your collar bone.

On Topic: Once again, with all due respect and I am sure it goes vice versa...but people like you are who I fear the most as a cpnservative. Not because you are a bad or evil person, but because our POV's are so opposite on so many issues.
     
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Sorry to hear about your accent Lerk. Get well soon!
     
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Originally posted by dcolton:

On Topic: Once again, with all due respect and I am sure it goes vice versa...but people like you are who I fear the most as a conservative. Not because you are a bad or evil person, but because our POV's are so opposite on so many issues.
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Originally posted by Lerkfish:
actually, they only fear true freedom for others.
You're being vague. Please elaborate.
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:03 PM
 
Originally posted by voodoo:
Get well Lerkfish.

I'm a right wing/centrist that would vote republican in the US but Shrubbie I can't stand. Many right wing members on this forum are afraid to admit that the current president is incompetent and even going so far in Shrubbie's defence that they try to deface leaders that are very intelligent and competent to be like Sr. José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. Sad that.
I do have to agree with you, Unfortunately or fortunately depending on which way you look at it President Bush is the lesser of 2 evils.
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:06 PM
 
I do have one question

Why are many liberals so afraid of Conservative black people? I mean they tried to defame Justice Thomas, They make some reference to Uncle tom's cabin when speaking about Colin Powell and Condeleeza Rice, Saying that they sold out; or that they are once again slave to the white man.
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:10 PM
 
Originally posted by typoon:
I do have one question

Why are many liberals so afraid of Conservative black people? I mean they tried to defame Justice Thomas, They make some reference to Uncle tom's cabin when speaking about Colin Powell and Condeleeza Rice, Saying that they sold out; or that they are once again slave to the white man.
That's a good question. Unfortunately the answer is that an educated black person who is conservative defeats the purpose of the liberal.
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:16 PM
 
Originally posted by LoganCharles:
That's a good question. Unfortunately the answer is that an educated black person who is conservative defeats the purpose of the liberal.


To go further...they fear black conservatives because it means they are loosing their monopoly on exploiting blacks.
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:23 PM
 
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Sorry to hear about your accent Lerk. Get well soon!
His accent?
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:34 PM
 
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I'm a right wing/centrist that would vote republican in the US...
Since when???
     
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Jul 29, 2004, 04:39 PM
 
Originally posted by typoon:
I do have one question

Why are many liberals so afraid of Conservative black people? I mean they tried to defame Justice Thomas, They make some reference to Uncle tom's cabin when speaking about Colin Powell and Condeleeza Rice, Saying that they sold out; or that they are once again slave to the white man.
I don't know much about Thomas or Rice, but on Powell, prior to that UN presentation I thought he would have made a great President. If I were an American and he were on the ballot, I would have voted for him. Unfortunately, that presentation totally blew his credibility away for me ("here's a picture with some vehicles in front of a building. Here's another picture of the same building, but without vehicles. Obviously there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in that building"). If he believed that those pictures were enough to prove the existence of WMD in Iraq, then he's not as intelligent as I thought he was ... If he believed he could convince the rest of the world that those pictures proved the existence of WMD in Iraq, then he's not as intelligent as I thought he was.
     
 
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