[el chupacabra]

hope this hasn't been posted yet anyway...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...nics_candidate

Hart, 60, vows if elected to work toward keeping "less favored races" from reproducing or immigrating to the United States. In campaign literature, Hart contends that "poverty genes" threaten to turn the United States into "one big Detroit."

More example of people voting strictly on party guide lines and not caring about a politicians views. Then the republicans actually say "well he doesn't really represent our party". Then why'd you vote for him?

[chris v]

Spliff? Spliff? Paging TNproun2B. Spliffdaddy to the pol-war forums. You got some 'splainin' to do, bub.

CV

[vmpaul]

and taking a shot at Detroit no less...Michigan you've just been called out by Tennessee

[doctorkeyser]

"This man doesn't represent the true feelings of the Republican Party in Tennessee."

"Just because he picked up over 80% of the primary vote, doesn't mean anything."

"Ummm....errrrr....ummmmm.........You guys remember that...ummmmmm.......there were some Democrats that were....ummmm........racist, too, right? So, there!"

[Agasthya]

This was my favorite line.

Some racist said:
"I didn't expect to win," Hart said. "I thought their network would beat my ideas."

The 'network' is probably why Republicans don't get more of the black vote

[Zimphire]

I guess the Tenn people now feel like the WV people feel of having a racist as a senator.

[Agasthya]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I guess the Tenn people now feel like the WV people feel of having a racist as a senator.

You're good at deflecting.

[chris v]

That's one wheel off the rails...

[doctorkeyser]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I guess the Tenn people now feel like the WV people feel of having a racist as a senator.

Slight difference here, that those with a genetic trisomy would not be expected to pick up. Robert Byrd has renounced, time and time and time again, his association with the Klan.

"Well, it's easy to state what has been my biggest mistake. The greatest mistake I ever made was joining the Ku Klux Klan. And I've said that many times. But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts. That was an albatross around my neck that I will always wear. You will read it in my obituary that I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan." -Robert Byrd

This Republican from Tennessee is pouring salt on old wounds as we type.

American politics has a long history of forgiving people for long-past mistakes. Robert Byrd, and Strom Thurmond were re-elected time and again. Our own President was obviously forgiven for his alcoholic and cocaine-abusing past. Now run along little boy.

[MacNStein]

Well, I suppose they nominated who they wanted. That's democracy, isn't it? It's very doubtful he'll win the seat though, that's a predominantly democrat area.

Would I vote for him? No, but I don't see anything wrong with him running for office.

[davesimondotcom]

So Byrd gets a pass for "denouncing" his stances from the past. But you know damn well that if a Republican were an ex Klansman who "denounced" the KKK, he'd still be called a racist (see Trent Lott, who apologized for his thoughtless statements.)

Being a racist doesn't disqualify someone from running for office. Perhaps the man was voted for by so many because they agree with him on other issues? I've voted for people who I disagree with on a major issue because I agree with them on many other issues. (For instance, I am pro-choice, but have voted for pro-life people who agree with me on taxes, etc.)

For you to take the fact that a Republican in Tennessee who is a racist won a primary and turn it into the whole Republican party being racist is simply wrong.

[chris v]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:

For you to take the fact that a Republican in Tennessee who is a racist won a primary and turn it into the whole Republican party being racist is simply wrong.

But Racism would appear to be what this guy's entirely about. So really, that only reflects on 80% of the Republicans in his district. Statistics were just made for extrapolation, though. Bedfellows, and all.

CV

[chris v]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:


Being a racist doesn't disqualify someone from running for office. Perhaps the man was voted for by so many because they agree with him on other issues? I've voted for people who I disagree with on a major issue because I agree with them on many other issues. (For instance, I am pro-choice, but have voted for pro-life people who agree with me on taxes, etc.)

Wait... are you implying that you would vote for a frothing-at-the-mouth Klansman if he was in favor of a flat tax as well as seperation of the races? that would appear to be your implication.

CV

[Montezuma58]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
Perhaps the man was voted for by so many because they agree with him on other issues?

Or perhaps it was because his name was the only one on the ballot and the faithful party sheep did not know any better. Looks more like the GOP was asleep at the wheel on this one rather than the local Republicans being racist. An oppenent did step up and got 17% of the vote which is pretty good for a write in campaign.

[Krusty]

In all fairness, this looks more like an electoral anomaly than anything.

Note 1: he got 83% of the primary vote ... but he was the ONLY Republican candidate on the ballot (the other 17% going to a write-in candidate who missed the deadline to be on the ballot). One would imagine that some number of the people that voted for him probably just picked the one representative for their party that was available -- without knowing really who he was or what he stands for.

Note 2: Looks like he'll be going up against a 15-year Democratic incumbent -- which implies the area he lives in leans, on the whole, more to the Dem side of the spectrum.

Looks like this weirdo just slipped thru due to lack of opposition more than anything else.

Still not nearly as funny as the fact that Ashcroft lost to a dead man prior to being appointed AG. Link

[el chupacabra]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:


For you to take the fact that a Republican in Tennessee who is a racist won a primary and turn it into the whole Republican party being racist is simply wrong.

I was mostly implying that people were willing to vote for an extreme racist as long as it was with their party, even if they didn't believe in this idea. The ironic thing is people are suppose to vote for people who agree on many of the same issues yet this case shows they don't want to be associated with his racism, their excuse is well he was the only republican and hence just want to associate with the party not really voting for a candidate who's views they share (silly huh?). What our system has come down to anymore is people just voting for the party that they have decided can do no wrong regardless of what the candidates key issues are.

Then again maybe the people who voted for him really are all racist but I doubt that.

[dcolton]

Originally posted by el chupacabra:
I was mostly implying that people were willing to vote for an extreme racist as long as it was with their party, even if they didn't believe in this idea. The ironic thing is people are suppose to vote for people who agree on many of the same issues yet this case shows they don't want to be associated with his racism, their excuse is well he was the only republican and hence just want to associate with the party not really voting for a candidate who's views they share (silly huh?). What our system has come down to anymore is people just voting for the party that they have decided can do no wrong regardless of what the candidates key issues are.

Then again maybe the people who voted for him really are all racist but I doubt that.

I get your point...but the consideration that has to be put into effect is how different does a voter think the parties are. I vote primarily republican. I have voted republican without great knowledge of the candidate before and I will probably do it again. Why...because I associate dems with the loudest part of the party...the lerkfish type liberals (no offense to lerk). We have opposing POV's. I voted democratic one time while in NC. I chose Harvey Gantt over Jesse Helms.

[greenamp]

Originally posted by el chupacabra:
hope this hasn't been posted yet anyway...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...nics_candidate


More example of people voting strictly on party guide lines and not caring about a politicians views. Then the republicans actually say "well he doesn't really represent our party". Then why'd you vote for him?

Umm, he was the only person running up until like two days ago.

[Montezuma58]

Originally posted by greenamp:
Umm, he was the only person running up until like two days ago.

Actually, it was more like a month

For shits and giggles here's Hart's web site. Be sure to vote in his poll.

[Millennium]

The best thing about true freedom is that anyone of any beliefs can hold power, as long as he or she can garner enough votes.

This is, however, also the worst thing about true freedom: anyone of any beliefs can hold power, as long as he or she can garner enough votes.

[smacintush]

Originally posted by doctorkeyser:
Slight difference here, that those with a genetic trisomy would not be expected to pick up. Robert Byrd has renounced, time and time and time again, his association with the Klan.

"Well, it's easy to state what has been my biggest mistake. The greatest mistake I ever made was joining the Ku Klux Klan. And I've said that many times. But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts. That was an albatross around my neck that I will always wear. You will read it in my obituary that I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan." -Robert Byrd

This Republican from Tennessee is pouring salt on old wounds as we type.

So it's OK to be a racist as long as you lie and say you're not? Old hillbillies like Byrd and Thurmond don't just stop being bigots because they want to. They are liars that only renounce anything for public image purposes.

[doctorkeyser]

Originally posted by smacintush:
So it's OK to be a racist as long as you lie and say you're not? Old hillbillies like Byrd and Thurmond don't just stop being bigots because they want to. They are liars that only renounce anything for public image purposes.

I hope you never have anything about yourself that needs changing. Some people would argue that it is possible. Even Dubya, to his credit, proved that.

[MacGorilla]

Originally posted by doctorkeyser:
I hope you never have anything about yourself that needs changing. Some people would argue that it is possible. Even Dubya, to his credit, proved that.

I'm not sure he's the best example.

[davesimondotcom]

It is possible to change. And if someone like Senator Byrd truly changed, that's good.

My point is that it's much easier to be given credit as changed if there rests a (D) behind your name than if there is an (R).

[BRussell]

Originally posted by Montezuma58:
Actually, it was more like a month

For shits and giggles here's Hart's web site. Be sure to vote in his poll.

That can't really be his web site. Can it? Someone tell me it's a parody.

[MacGorilla]

It is. He's against NAFTA so thats something.

[scottiB]

Originally posted by vmpaul:
and taking a shot at Detroit no less...Michigan you've just been called out by Tennessee

He's obviously a Lakers fan. And still sore about the Wings beating the Preds in the first round.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Agasthya:
You're good at deflecting.

[mo]

Originally posted by Montezuma58:


For shits and giggles here's Hart's web site. Be sure to vote in his poll.

Wow. That is something else. I think, though, that you have to take this as proof that the state GOP must be mortified by this person. I imagine they'll have to disown him publicly, a la David Duke, if they haven't already. Really, I can't blame them for this one. This is a freak show.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by el chupacabra:
hope this hasn't been posted yet anyway...

More example of people voting strictly on party guide lines and not caring about a politicians views. Then the republicans actually say "well he doesn't really represent our party". Then why'd you vote for him?

You yourself state that this was a GOP primary. I don't see how"your main thesis, "voting strictly on party lines", is even factored into the equation.

[Spliffdaddy]

hey, at least they aren't asking us to vote for a womanizing draft-dodging savings&loan scandalizing cheating lying democrat like bill clinton. And then have the nerve to suggest he be re-elected.

heck, give me the racist guy any day.

[hey!_Zeus]

Originally posted by dcolton:
I get your point...but the consideration that has to be put into effect is how different does a voter think the parties are. I vote primarily republican. I have voted republican without great knowledge of the candidate before and I will probably do it again.

Only dumb 'Trailer Trash' people vote for a party no matter who the candidate is. Smart people either don't vote if the candidate is a dickwad or vote for the person who best represents the good of the constituents regardless of the party.

Also I live near Detroit. It is a real hole. They had to move the baseball stadium. It was either that or move the dump that surrounded it. Then they realized it wasn't a dump but a city neighborhood.

As for Tennessee...isn't that the trailer capital? I think that's where Jerry Springer recruits most of his guests from.

[hey!_Zeus]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
heck, give me the racist guy any day.

So you Identify with racists? Is this a coming out of the closet post for you?

Just wondering...fairly new here and just feeling my way you see.



And if so, does this represent the base of the Republican party? Racism and bigotry I mean.

[MacNStein]

Originally posted by hey!_Zeus:

And if so, does this represent the base of the Republican party? Racism and bigotry I mean.

Like Sharpton with the Democrats?