[CreepingDeth]

Drudge:

TIME MAG DETAILS EVIDENCE OF POSSIBLE AL-QAEDA ATTACK ON U.S. ‘This is looking more real every day,’ says senior intelligence official
Sun Aug 08 2004 09:59:10 ET

FBI official warned a congressional leader he and others could be targeted in Washington and on trips around U.S.

New York – An FBI official warned a congressional leader that he and other top legislative officials could be targeted by al-Qaeda in Washington or on their trips around the country, TIME has learned. The warning came two days before Ridge issued his nationwide alert.

TIME reveals exclusive new detail of al-Qaeda attack plans, in the cover story/special report “Al-Qaeda in America. Inside the Terrorist Group’s Plot to Attack the U.S. Can We Get to Them Before They Strike?” (on newsstands Monday, Aug. 9).

Assessing the accumulation of evidence of a possible attack inside the U.S., a senior intelligence official tells TIME, “This is looking more like the real deal every day.” TIME also learns that Osama bin Laden may already have ordered up another attack: a top homeland security official tells TIME “We have a number of times picked up information that al-Qaeda wants to attack us before the election, and some of the communications attribute that desire to Osama bin Laden.”

Though surveillance for the al-Qaeda attack plans seized July 24 was mostly done in 2000 and 2001, “there remains plenty of cause for concern,” according to TIME. A surveillance report notes windows behind the six columns in front of the New York Stock Exchange building make it appear “a little fragile.” Operatives specifically discuss using “usual methods” such as a heavy gas truck or oil tanker to attack facilities. Surveillance of helicopter ports and cockpits in New York City suggest al-Qaeda has investigated using them for an airborne attack.

A U.S. law-enforcement official told TIME that a recent Pakistani intelligence report made available to senior U.S. intelligence and security officials offers details of alleged al-Qaeda plans to use speedboats and divers for attacks in New York harbor before the November 2004 elections.

TIME has learned that one seized disc contains an updated photo of the Prudential Building in Newark, New Jersey that was added in January of this year. Operatives noted it might be difficult to drive a truck or van into the Prudential’s underground parking garage. So they proposed acquiring a black limo, gutting all but the front seat and presumably filling the empty portion with explosives, TIME reports. They also discussed using an oil truck to ram through the front entrance. Information on New Jersey Transit passenger rail systems and PATH train timetables suggested al-Qaeda may have been exploring ways to escape after pulling off the attack, TIME reports.

A senior U.S. intelligence official tells TIME that the three laptop computers and 51 discs seized in a July 24 raid in Pakistan represent an unprecedented “treasure trove” of information about al-Qaeda’s determination to pull off more acts of catastrophe on U.S. soil. “The discs revealed far more detailed, wide-ranging and current research” than has been made public, a source tells TIME. A senior law-enforcement force tells TIME the FBI is pursuing information from computer files that may lead to al-Qaeda members in the U.S. Perhaps a half-dozen individuals are believed to have been in contact with at least one of three men apprehended in Pakistan.

[MacGorilla]

interesting!

[CreepingDeth]

Crafty little bastards!
More reason to kill em!

But isn't it weird that they have so much information on NYC and economic sites? You'd think they'd attack D.C., but I guess not. Looks like they fear capitalism alot.
But since when is the Prudential building the "biggest Satan" to these people?

[PacHead]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:

But since when is the Prudential building the "biggest Satan" to these people?

Everything is the great satan to those crazy bastards.

[CreepingDeth]

My bad.
Good thing Logic's not on yet or he'd call us raaasssccciiisssttt or siding with the evil occupying immpppeeriiaaalliiissttttss. Or he'd say "Onward Muslim brother! I hate you but support you! Get those damn Americans…and…and they're democracy."

[PacHead]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
My bad.
Good thing Logic's not on yet or he'd call us raaasssccciiisssttt or siding with the evil occupying immpppeeriiaaalliiissttttss. Or he'd say "Onward Muslim brother! I hate you but support you! Get those damn Americans…and…and they're democracy."

Oh, he'll be on eventually, and he'll probably ask you "Care to back that up ?"

You understand, Al-Qaeda are not "real" muslims, even though they were born muslim, they come from muslim countries, they recruit amongst real muslims, and they carry around a muslim koran with them.

As a matter of fact, the imam of that Albany mosque who got busted is probably not a "real" muslim either, and his mosque wasn't a real mosque, it's just an illusion™.

Let me be the first one to also mention the agnostic Timothy McVeigh in this thread also, and the Oklahoma bombing before any of the usual suspects try to derail it.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Oh, he'll be on eventually, and he'll probably ask you "Care to back that up ?"
…

Yeah. That's his catch-phrase.
Dy-no-mite!

[MacGorilla]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Yeah. That's his catch-phrase.
Dy-no-mite!

J.J. is that you?

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
J.J. is that you?

Damnit! This is where I've been for awhile now…

[angaq0k]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Everything is the great satan to those crazy bastards.

Yet you use "evil" as if you are mouthwashing...

[MacGorilla]

I worked for Prudential and they're certainly not the great satan; they actually are pretty good to their employees. Now Wal-Mart, there's a satan.

[CreepingDeth]

To the islamo-fascist, anything "free" us a great satan. I use that term sarcastically.

[Wiskedjak]

It won't be very surprising to see a terrorist attack prior to the election. Bin Laden doesn't likely want Kerry to win the election anymore than Bush does.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
It won't be very surprising to see a terrorist attack prior to the election. Bin Laden doesn't likely want Kerry to win the election anymore than Bush does.

Why would OBL fear Kerry? Kerry is weaker than Bush on national security, and much less likely to get as pissed as W was after 9/11, if we are attacked. Kerry's a F***ing wimp.

[angaq0k]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
To the islamo-fascist, anything "free" us a great satan. I use that term sarcastically.

"islamo-fascist"

LOL

[CreepingDeth]

Ahahaha!

Terrorists are evil!

LOL!

Terrorists can go burn in Hell and not get those virgins!

LOL!

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
My bad.
Good thing Logic's not on yet or he'd call us raaasssccciiisssttt or siding with the evil occupying immpppeeriiaaalliiissttttss. Or he'd say "Onward Muslim brother! I hate you but support you! Get those damn Americans…and…and they're democracy."

I don't think Logic supports this type of Terrorism.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I don't think Logic supports this type of Terrorism.

What does he support?

[Zimphire]

Ask him yourself.

[CreepingDeth]

All Logic ever seems to say anything against the US is good. But then again, he says he condones it, but still considers it legitimate. I don't get it.

Either way, it still puzzles me that they'd attack financial buildings before getting rid of the "great satan" Bush.

[el chupacabra]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:


Either way, it still puzzles me that they'd attack financial buildings before getting rid of the "great satan" Bush.

Well why would they want to get rid of someone that allows them to terrorize us?

[CreepingDeth]

How the **** is that true? They'd rather have someone who wouldn't track them down, like Fonda Kerry.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Why would OBL fear Kerry? Kerry is weaker than Bush on national security, and much less likely to get as pissed as W was after 9/11, if we are attacked. Kerry's a F***ing wimp.

Did I say "fear"? Quite simply, Bush is the best recruiting tool Bin Laden could ever have wished for.

[zachs]

Hold on...I thought we were safer. After all, our fearless leader told us so!
But wait. He also said we are a "nation in danger."

Would you like some syrup with those waffles?

[CreepingDeth]

Ask Kerry.
Bush said the obvious, we will always be in danger, no matter how much security. Those ****ers will always try to do something

Okay, so if you started a campaign to get rid of the LNSGP, would that just recruit more of the little bastards? When does fighting something only make it worse? We kick there ass, not worry about what they think. If they were as pissed as you said they are, then wouldn't we have been attacked already?

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Ask Kerry.
Bush said the obvious, we will always be in danger, no matter how much security. Those ****ers will always try to do something

So are we safe? Or are we in danger? Who knows with George W.affler Bush!

[CreepingDeth]

Oh STFU! Your man makes idiotic contradictions every damn day! He's against one thing, but votes another way! Life begins at conception, but votes pro-abortion! Votes for the war, now against it. Votes for the Patriot ACT, now against it.

You can say we are safer. That is an improvement. That doesn't mean we can't be attacked, it means we are improving security from pre-9/11 stages.

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Oh STFU! Your man makes idiotic contradictions every damn day! He's against one thing, but votes another way! Life begins at conception, but votes pro-abortion! Votes for the war, now against it. Votes for the Patriot ACT, now against it.

You can say we are safer. That is an improvement. That doesn't mean we can't be attacked, it means we are improving security from pre-9/11 stages.

You sound like Bill O'Reilly. "Shut up! Shut up!"

See, I wouldn't normally care about "flip-flopping" (most of the time I think it's about learning new information). But since your candidate has made it an issue and likes to crack jokes about it, his own waffles are fair game.

By the way, is this what you consider making the U.S. safer?

[CreepingDeth]

A link to the DNC? **** from Michael Moore? Man, you're like a sponge, except you don't hold it in.
The guy can't give an answer. It depends on his geographic location. He's as band as Al Gore, who has proven himself insane. He says he's against abortion in a blue collar area, says the opposite thing in another state. He and his ugly wife are out of touch (is that chili?) and are going to raise taxes. That's enough reason not to vote for him. He also puts too much into the UN, who have proven to be a hinderance to stopping any of these bastards.

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
A link to the DNC? **** from Michael Moore? Man, you're like a sponge, except you don't hold it in.

Michael Moore? I don't see anything in my post about Michael Moore...

So would you care to refute anything on that page? Anything at all?
I'll be waiting.

[CreepingDeth]

You bring up something from that ******** movie, the 7 minute thing.

Would you like to go refute stuff from the GOP website? Pointless. You must be pretty weak if you rip stuff from Party websites.

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
You bring up something from that ******** movie, the 7 minute thing.

Would you like to go refute stuff from the GOP website? Pointless. You must be pretty weak if you rip stuff from Party websites.

It's funny how you can't refute facts, huh?

[CreepingDeth]

Fine. Refute all of these:
GOP Kerry Stuff
Kerry vs Kerry
Kerry on Iraq
Supported by the Democratic Socialists and the Communist Party

See how stupid this is?

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Fine. Refute all of these:
GOP Kerry Stuff
Kerry vs Kerry
Kerry on Iraq
Supported by the Democratic Socialists and the Communist Party

See how stupid this is?

I only gave you one article from the DNC to refute.

So how 'bout I refute one article from the RNC, and you refute my one article from the DNC. M'kay?

Here's the one I'll debunk. Now go and read this.

I'll be looking forward to your refutation of my DNC article.

[CreepingDeth]

What is the point? I could just do a Google search and type in the opposite to refute yours. You see how retarded that is? Let me do a Google search and see what "john kerry flip flop" yields.
Google
"kerry weak on national security"
Google

If I wanted to, senate.gov has the voting records, and see what he votes like.

We were talking about assholes plotting to kill Americans.

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
What is the point? I could just do a Google search and type in the opposite to refute yours. You see how retarded that is? Let me do a Google search and see what "john kerry flip flop" yields.
Google
"kerry weak on national security"
Google

If I wanted to, senate.gov has the voting records, and see what he votes like.

The point is to dispel the myth that George Bush has really made us a lot safer.

Whatever. I can't help it if you don't want to listen to facts.

We were talking about assholes plotting to kill Americans.

Yep, and also what Bush has done (or not done) to prevent them from doing so.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by el chupacabra:
Well why would they want to get rid of someone that allows them to terrorize us?

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Did I say "fear"? Quite simply, Bush is the best recruiting tool Bin Laden could ever have wished for.

Wow.. just wow.

Originally posted by zachs:
The point is to dispel the myth that George Bush has really made us a lot safer.

Hasn't been an attack since 9/11.

[zachs]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Hasn't been an attack since 9/11.

That means...what?

You do realize that al Qaeda takes their time in planning these things, right? After the 1993 WTC bombing, how many years was it before they attacked here again?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by zachs:
That means...what?

You do realize that al Qaeda takes their time in planning these things, right? After the 1993 WTC bombing, how many years was it before they attacked here again?

Oh, there was attacks by them elsewhere. Also, it's heightened a bit since then hasn't it?

There is more of an urgency. They think Allah gave them a sign to move on and do more because of what happened in 9/11.

[zachs]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Oh, there was attacks by them elsewhere. Also, it's heightened a bit since then hasn't it?

I said attacked here.

There is more of an urgency. They think Allah gave them a sign to move on and do more because of what happened in 9/11.

And you know this how?

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by zachs:
I said attacked here.



And you know this how?

If the nuts can plan attacks elsewhere with increased frequency, then why couldn't they do it here? Al Qaeda has not retricted their militant ******** to America.

Allah told him.

[Zimphire]

Because Osama said it was a sign himself! Haven't you heard the recordings shortly after the 9/11 attacks happened?

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
If the nuts can plan attacks elsewhere with increased frequency, then why couldn't they do it here? Al Qaeda has not retricted their militant ******** to America.

I never said they couldn't attack here. I said they take their time planning.

Reading helps.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Because Osama said it was a sign himself! Haven't you heard the recordings shortly after the 9/11 attacks happened?

Talking to me? If you were, I was just kidding. Isn't the Prophet supposed to say that stuff? Kidding there too

[zachs]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Because Osama said it was a sign himself! Haven't you heard the recordings shortly after the 9/11 attacks happened?

I've heard a bunch of recordings from Osama.

Do you have a transcript of that particular one? Or a link?

[Zimphire]

Do a search for it on Google. I heard it. I know what it says.

[MindFad]

Originally posted by zachs:
So are we safe? Or are we in danger? Who knows with George W.affler Bush!

Safe-ish. My future will feel safer when Kerry takes office in January.

[CreepingDeth]

Do you really need a transcript?

OBL: "We are on a mission by GOD to kill the infidels!"

That's all he ever says.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by MindFad:
Safe-ish. My future will feel safer when Kerry takes office in January.

Hey Nintendo fanboy…what would you do??

[zachs]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Do a search for it on Google. I heard it. I know what it says.

I'm not going to do your research for you. YOU made the claim, YOU back it up.