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Kerry Calls for Swift Boat Book to be Pulled
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:06 AM
 
According to Drudge, the Kerry campaign is calling for the book "Unfit for Command" to be pulled by it's publisher.

The Kerry campaign calls on a publisher to 'withdraw book' written by group of veterans, claiming veterans are lying about Kerry's service in Vietnam and operating as a front organization for Bush. Kerry campaign has told Salon.com that the publisher of UNFIT FOR COMMAND is 'retailing a hoax'... 'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,' Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton tells the online mag...
OK, fine and dandy. When will he call for the pulling of Fahrenheit 9/11 from theaters? Or does he only feel that publishers shouldn't publish BOOKS with proven falsehoods in them?
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:14 AM
 
Maybe the publishers and authors should offer the book for free to card carrying liberals as well
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:17 AM
 
Isn't that "censorship?"
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:21 PM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Isn't that "censorship?"
No, because the government isn't doing it. Still, I find it rather creepy that someone running for office would call for such a thing. Someone capable of calling for a book to be pulled while runing for office is more than capable of doing so while in office, and that's a line which should never be crossed.

At the same time, maybe I should start stocking up on copies. If they do pull the book, then anyone who's still got copies will probably be able to make a killing on eBay
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:22 PM
 
Originally posted by Millennium:
Still, I find it rather creepy
Is 'creepy' your word du jour?
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:35 PM
 
I don't think the book should be pulled. Instead, we all should just be very clear to recognize the web of financial connections between the Swift Boat Veterans and the Bush administration.

Harland Crow: Trustee of Bush library
Bob Perry: Longtime associate of Karl Rove
Merrie Spaeth: Close friend of one of Rove's top clients and PR person for Bush campaign supporters.
Tex Lezar: Married to Spaeth (above) and worked for Reagan.
Jack O'Neill: Married to Harriet O'Neill who was appointed by Bush to state court
Margaret Wilson: Bush's counsel while he was governor.

Lots of big money and Bush connections behind the book. The graphic link above sums it up nicely (free registration required). Believe it or not as you will.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:36 PM
 
*Cough*GeorgeSoros*cough*

What ever happened to Kerry's "The New Soldier?"
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:37 PM
 
Originally posted by Millennium:
No, because the government isn't doing it. Still, I find it rather creepy that someone running for office would call for such a thing. Someone capable of calling for a book to be pulled while runing for office is more than capable of doing so while in office, and that's a line which should never be crossed.

At the same time, maybe I should start stocking up on copies. If they do pull the book, then anyone who's still got copies will probably be able to make a killing on eBay
Hey, remember the hubbub over the Bush biography "Forunate Son" that was pulled by St. Martin's press in 1999 after the Bush family protested the author's accusations that GW Bush had used coke? They pulped 70,000 copies of that thing.

By all accounts, a pretty slapdash book, and the author was a questionable character (I think he also committed suicide not long after), but it's not like this is the first time something like this has happened. Calling for the book to be withdrawn is sort of stupid, anyway -- more publicity for it. There is not a remote chance that it will be withdrawn.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:39 PM
 
fahrenheit 451
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Aug 20, 2004, 01:02 PM
 
Originally posted by Millennium:
No, because the government isn't doing it. Still, I find it rather creepy that someone running for office would call for such a thing. Someone capable of calling for a book to be pulled while runing for office is more than capable of doing so while in office, and that's a line which should never be crossed.

At the same time, maybe I should start stocking up on copies. If they do pull the book, then anyone who's still got copies will probably be able to make a killing on eBay
agreed.

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Aug 20, 2004, 01:04 PM
 
Originally posted by mo:
Calling for the book to be withdrawn is sort of stupid, anyway -- more publicity for it. There is not a remote chance that it will be withdrawn.
Exactly.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 01:06 PM
 
Someone's very afraid if they are calling to have the book withdrawn.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 04:19 PM
 
Originally posted by Millennium:
No, because the government isn't doing it. Still, I find it rather creepy that someone running for office would call for such a thing.[,,,]
Largely politics. Dukakis made the mistake of not defending himself from the rabid republicans and the dems have learned from it. Kerry at least has to whip up a storm of protest about the book of lies, if only to foster the perception that the book is ********. Which it is, by the way.

If you aren't completely appalled, then you haven't been paying attention.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 04:21 PM
 
Originally posted by KaBlooey:
Largely politics. Dukakis made the mistake of not defending himself from the rabid republicans and the dems have learned from it. Kerry at least has to whip up a storm of protest about the book of lies, if only to foster the perception that the book is ********. Which it is, by the way.
oooo..when I type ********, a bunch of little ****'s happen. Cool, I didn't know you could do that.

I love the interweb.

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Aug 20, 2004, 04:27 PM
 
It's blunders (or hypocritical acts) like this that could be easily averted, but are still occurring, that make me seriously question whether Kerry (and Bush on occasion) are trying to LOSE this race.

I mean seriously, what average American (Let alone political strategist) doesn't see the obvious mistake in doing this? (Especially after receiving support from someone such as Sen. McCain).
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 05:00 PM
 
Originally posted by Dakar:
(Especially after receiving support from someone such as Sen. McCain).
McCain supports Bush - or did I miss your point?
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 05:03 PM
 
Originally posted by voyageur:
I don't think the book should be pulled. Instead, we all should just be very clear to recognize the web of financial connections between the Swift Boat Veterans and the Bush administration.
Today's Democrat Buzzword (or Buzzphrase): "Web of Connections"

I bet that if you watch the Sunday talk shows, you will hear this phrase out of the mouth of every Kerry supporter interviewed.

voyageur, you must be on the email list.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 05:14 PM
 
Originally posted by Dakar:
It's blunders (or hypocritical acts) like this that could be easily averted, but are still occurring, that make me seriously question whether Kerry (and Bush on occasion) are trying to LOSE this race.

I mean seriously, what average American (Let alone political strategist) doesn't see the obvious mistake in doing this? (Especially after receiving support from someone such as Sen. McCain).
If Bush and Kerry are the answers I hate to imagine what the question was.

The only reason why Kerry and Bush are running is because each candidate draws money into the RNC or DNC coffers. Neither one is going to do much to help America.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 05:23 PM
 



Please, everyone connects to something. For all I know, Little Jimmy's aunt's uncle could have been a Nazi.
As a rule of thumb, most people on the right generally have a connection with Bush, and vice versa.
But if your argument is on shady donors, then look at the picture above. Er, the first one.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 06:37 PM
 
Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
McCain supports Bush - or did I miss your point?
I wasn't clear. I meant McCain supported Kerry's service in light of the swiftboat thing.

Originally posted by Dr.HermanG.:
The only reason why Kerry and Bush are running is because each candidate draws money into the RNC or DNC coffers. Neither one is going to do much to help America.
Every once in a while I like to don a tinfoil hat and think that it's NOT coincidence that Kerry too was a member of the skulls. I'd love to know what the odds are that two members of the same secret fraternity would end up running against each other for the highest seat of power in the United States.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 06:41 PM
 
Originally posted by Dakar:
Every once in a while I like to don a tinfoil hat and think that it's NOT coincidence that Kerry too was a member of the skulls. I'd love to know what the odds are that two members of the same secret fraternity would end up running against each other for the highest seat of power in the United States.

Ahahahahahahaaaa!

Too much Coast to Coast, buddy. They both went to Yale. But one did better.
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