[Lerkfish]

http://www.military.com/Resources/Re...rth_080204.htm

hmmm...where is Bremer these days?

[CreepingDeth]

Lerk, remember what the administrator says: "You cannot post more than once very 30 seconds."
Please, stop with so many threads. Please.
What happened to that oil for food money?

[OldManMac]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Lerk, remember what the administrator says: "You cannot post more than once very 30 seconds."
Please, stop with so many threads. Please.
What happened to that oil for food money?

Is somebody sitting there with a gun to your head, forcing you to read them or respond? Who died and left you in charge?

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Lerk, remember what the administrator says: "You cannot post more than once very 30 seconds."
Please, stop with so many threads. Please.
What happened to that oil for food money?

Yeah, I like how he comes in here with the newly-developed talking points and mass-posts them all at once late on a Saturday night.

As for the oil for food money, the lefties want to pretend that there is no UN corruption, that they weren't taking bribes from Saddam. Come on, you know how they work.

[angaq0k]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Yeah, I like how he comes in here with the newly-developed talking points and mass-posts them all at once late on a Saturday night.

As for the oil for food money, the lefties want to pretend that there is no UN corruption, that they weren't taking bribes from Saddam. Come on, you know how they work.

Innocent 'til you get proof.

There is none of that yet.

[Saad]

Originally posted by angaq0k:
Innocent 'til you get proof.

There is none of that yet.

Did a search for "UN Bribe Oil for Food" and I found 6 articles, all but one from niche news sources, and one opinion piece from the New York Post. The author's only other article was "ILLEGALS GET A FREE PASS?".

The corruption hardly seems documented.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...nG=Search+News

[angaq0k]

Here are a few more links

Back on topic:

Not only is there money missing, but there is more to be made...

Halliburton Allegedly Overcharges in Iraq

Cheney's Old Company Halliburton Overcharging to Import Gasoline in Iraq, Two Democrats Charge

WASHINGTON Oct. 16 ( The Associated Press ) Two Democratic lawmakers say Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, Halliburton, is gouging U.S. taxpayers while importing gasoline into Iraq. The Houston-based company contends it is paying the best price possible._
Reps. Henry Waxman of California and John Dingell of Michigan complained to the Bush administration that Halliburton's KBR subsidiary is billing the Army between $1.62 and $1.70 per gallon, while the average price for Middle East gasoline is 71 cents.

They also complained that Iraqis are charged between 4 cents and 15 cents at the pump for the imported gasoline.

"Although Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world, the U.S. taxpayer is, in effect, subsidizing over 90 percent of the cost of gasoline sold in Iraq," the lawmakers said in the latest Democratic attacks against the Houston company that received a no-bid contract.

The charges cover the purchase and transportation of the petroleum from Kuwait and other countries.

Halliburton, originally hired to extinguish oil fires, has received the expanded role of restoring Iraq's oil industry. The company has been paid $1.4 billion through September for its work.

"KBR is not responsible for establishing the price Iraqi motorists pay for gasoline at the pump," Halliburton spokeswoman Wendy Hall said.

She said the company negotiates "fair and competitive prices" with suppliers outside Iraq and must transport the gasoline in a hostile environment.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which chose Halliburton, has received bids for a replacement contract that could be awarded this month.

Corps spokesman Robert Faletti said he could not confirm the figures that Waxman and Dingell cited in a letter to Joshua Bolten, director of the Office of Management and Budget.

He said, however, that the contract is being audited by Congress and the Army.

In a further move against Halliburton, Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., announced Wednesday he would propose barring the government from awarding Iraq reconstruction contracts to companies that maintain close financial ties to the president, vice president or members of the president's Cabinet.

Lautenberg wants the measure added to an $87 billion reconstruction bill for Iraq and Afghanistan.

Cheney receives deferred payments from Halliburton and also has stock options.

Cheney's office has said the vice president had no role in the contract and that the deferred payments were for his services while he headed the company. He has said he would give the proceeds to charity should he profit from the exercise of stock options.

Copyright 2003 The Associated Press._

[chris v]

Nice derail.

[angaq0k]

More money missing?

Bechtel of course is making a killing in Iraq, courtesy of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) - the supervising body in charge of commissioning and awarding contracts. The San Francisco-based giant has already won projects worth more than US$ 1 billion. Bechtel is under contract with USAID to repair and upgrade Iraq's power grid, and its potable-water and sewage-treating systems; the main roads, bridges, railways and public buildings; and building and reconstruction of schools and clinics. The sectors considered a priority are ports, buildings, surface transportation and waste water. What Iraqis simply can't understand - because the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) didn't bother to explain - is why the Americans control everything, why so many Iraqi contractors remain empty-handed, and why everything takes so long._

Bechtel program directors say the company has hired 69 Iraqi subcontractors and employs more than 27,000 people. But subcontracts to Iraqi firms were only worth $47 million by late September - out of a total of more than $1 billion. US companies divide practically the whole cake. Creative Associates International will revitalize Iraqi primary and secondary schools. The Research Triangle Institute will be in charge of local governance development (Wasfi had no idea about it). The public health system will be restored by Abt Associates. Airport administration in Baghdad, Mosul and Basra will go to Skylink Air and Logistics Support._

Bechtel is responsible for rebuilding 1,200 primary and secondary schools in Iraq (600 in Baghdad alone). Most should have been ready this week - the beginning of the school year. In the case of Baghdad, only 43 out of 600 were ready. Ma'monia, a secondary school in Aadhamiya originally built in 1922, was one of the lucky ones. Ra'ad al-Juburi, the Iraqi subcontractor, said he was able to rebuild the school with materials still found in Iraqi markets._

[chris v]

Yeah, but Bill Clinton got a blowjob, which negates everything that comes after.

[MacGorilla]

Originally posted by chris v:
Yeah, but Bill Clinton got a blowjob, which negates everything that comes after.

It all ended there. Bush could keep a harem in the Whitehouse and conservatives would say, "But Clinton got a blowjob in the oval office!"

[angaq0k]

Originally posted by chris v:
Yeah, but Bill Clinton got a blowjob, which negates everything that comes after.

ah.

I forgot about that...

I wonder why?

[deedar]

Originally posted by chris v:
Yeah, but Bill Clinton got a blowjob, which negates everything that comes after.

Yeah, and don't forget that dawg Hitlery and what she tried to do with/to healthcare, and that they killed Vince Foster, and oh sheet, what about Whitewater!!!!!!

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by deedar:
Yeah, and don't forget that dawg Hitlery and what she tried to do with/to healthcare, and that they killed Vince Foster, and oh sheet, what about Whitewater!!!!!!

hey, watch out now! that's a conspiracy theory!!!!

oh, no, never mind, its a republican conspiracy theory, doesn't count.

[tie]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
As for the oil for food money, the lefties want to pretend that there is no UN corruption, that they weren't taking bribes from Saddam. Come on, you know how they work.

Not sure where you got this idea (left pretending..). I am sure there was some UN corruption, but I'd be surprised if Annan was really linked to it.

However, we've replaced it by a system apparently just as bad, just as corrupt. And the right wants to pretend it doesn't exist by changing the subject. (..So far in this thread at least, you and CreepingDeath have both completely avoided the subject; I don't understand how corruption in the UN justifies corruption in the American reconstruction effort.)