[spacefreak]

Check out this audio that shows yet more coordination between media members and DNC/Kerry campaign officials.

What's wrong, libs... can't think for yourselves? Just follow the prepared script.

[placebo1969]

Now let me get this straight:
A bounce goes up and then it goes down.

Do I have that right? That's pretty funny.

[deedar]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Check out this audio that shows yet more coordination between media members and DNC/Kerry campaign officials.

What's wrong, libs... can't think for yourselves? Just follow the prepared script.

point?

[OldManMac]

He has a point, but, if he keeps his hat on, nobody will notice.

[placebo1969]

Originally posted by deedar:
point?

Uh, they all said the same thing. Like a script.

[PacHead]

That is just outrageous, and shows the manipulative, lying gestapo liberal media at work.
Like a bunch of dumb desperate robots, reading from some propaganda script.

Oh, and the last dude with the weird voice sounded like such a geek.

[Demonhood]

you're deluded if you don't think both parties do this. (requires windows media player)

[Atomic Rooster]

Thanx for the linky Demon, I wonder if Pacman will get thru watching it without throwing his monitor at the wall for posting such a dumb remark.

And it won't help what he thinks of you.

haha...a bounce! LOLing!

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
you're deluded if you don't think both parties do this. (requires windows media player)

Of course they all use talking points.

The difference is that in Stewart's piece, those were Republicans stating the stuff. In the audio above, not only did we hear Democrats, we also heard the talking points reiterated word-for-word by "objective" media members (like a Newsweek reporter). Hence, my use of the phrase "DNC-Media" coordination.

[Atomic Rooster]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Of course they all use talking points.

The difference is that in Stewart's piece, those were Republicans stating the stuff. In the audio above, not only did we hear Democrats, we also heard the talking points reiterated word-for-word by "objective" media members (like a Newsweek reporter). Hence, my use of the phrase "DNC-Media" coordination.

Nice try but you'll only convince PacHead and colton and their war mongering ilk.

The difference is that Stewart's piece was funny and the Limbaugh piece sounded like his typical mindless blather that has the flavor of wallpaper paste..

[PacHead]

Yep, not the same at all.

It was the media repeating the script, that's ridiculous.

[Demonhood]

all but one of the people talking were from the Kerry/Edwards campaign. at least, according to Rush. and i heard more people talking than the few names he rattled off. so maybe i missed a reporter in there. did i?

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
all but one of the people talking were from the Kerry/Edwards campaign. at least, according to Rush. and i heard more people talking than the few names he rattled off. so maybe i missed a reporter in there. did i?

Yes, it sounded like more people talking, than the names he read off. I don't know who those people were.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Yes, it sounded like more people talking, than the names he read off. I don't know who those people were.

Whoever it was, we had at least one Newsweek reporter reciting the Democrat talking points, and in my opinion, that's one too many.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Whoever it was, we had at least one Newsweek reporter reciting the Democrat talking points, and in my opinion, that's one too many.

Yes, I agree.

[Demonhood]

to play the devil's advocate, it could have been a Newsweek opinion columnist or some former democratic pundit they hired on. a quick google turns up no hits on the guy (or i'm just spelling it terribly wrong).
newsweek doesn't have a radio show (that i know of), so he must have been invited on as a guest on radio or tv. this makes me lean towards thinking he is a tool of one side or another, not a supposed objective reporter. anyway, why would you invite a neutral party for commentary/debate? everyone knows the ratings are in the extremes.

seems that Rush is overreacting on this one, but we still don't have all the information.

[TubaMuffins]

Originally posted by PacHead:
That is just outrageous, and shows the manipulative, lying gestapo liberal media at work.
Like a bunch of dumb desperate robots, reading from some propaganda script.

Oh, and the last dude with the weird voice sounded like such a geek.

Liberal Media?!?!

Are you joking? How long did we have to suffer through the media babbling about Clinton smoking pot? And how much have you heard about W's DUI and cocaine usage? How much have we heard about Kerry being attacked by his service in the army and receiving three purple hearts, a bronze star and a silver star? And how much have we heard about W's supposed AWOL and then his military records mysteriously disappearing? And Kerry is a "flip-flopper" when The Department of Homeland Security was his idea and Bush voted against it the first time.

I'm sorry, but the media is not biased towards liberals at all.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TubaMuffins:

I'm sorry, but the media is not biased towards liberals at all.

That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever heard.

The majority of journalists are anti-BUSH. I remember reading quite a few polls on that. Come on man, everybody is tuning out the liberal channels and moving to more fair stations, such as FOX.

[TubaMuffins]

Originally posted by PacHead:
That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever heard.

The majority of journalists are anti-BUSH. I remember reading quite a few polls on that. Come on man, everybody is tuning out the liberal channels and moving to more fair stations, such as FOX.

I wouldn't trust FOX with my laundry coins. Proove it that "the majority of journalists are anti-BUSH", where are the polls published. give me a reason to believe you. Granted every news channel has its own bias, some are liberal, some are conservative, but the majority of the news voice is conservative. Accept it.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TubaMuffins:
but the majority of the news voice is conservative. Accept it.

LOL, I do not believe that for a second.

Journalists Vote for Liberals: Between 1964 and 1992, Republicans won the White House five times compared with three Democratic victories. But if only journalists’ ballots were counted, the Democrats would have won every time.


Journalists Say They Are Liberal: Surveys from 1978 to 2004 show that journalists are far more likely to say they are liberal than conservative, and are far more liberal than the public at large.

Journalists Reject Conservative Positions: None of the surveys have found that news organizations are populated by independent thinkers who mix liberal and conservative positions. Most journalists offer reflexively liberal answers to practically every question a pollster can imagine

The Public Recognizes the Bias: Since 1985, the percentage of Americans who perceive a liberal bias has doubled from 22 percent to 45 percent, nearly half the adult population. Even a plurality of Democrats now say the press is liberal.

Download the full PDF report.

http://www.mrc.org/specialreports/20.../sum063004.asp


PS - It's even worse in places like Europe, where like 9 out of 10 journalists are anti-Bush. The european sheep people are of course anti-Bush also, when all they read is crap in their media.

[TubaMuffins]

Originally posted by PacHead:
LOL, I do not believe that for a second.

Journalists Vote for Liberals: Between 1964 and 1992, Republicans won the White House five times compared with three Democratic victories. But if only journalists’ ballots were counted, the Democrats would have won every time.


Journalists Say They Are Liberal: Surveys from 1978 to 2004 show that journalists are far more likely to say they are liberal than conservative, and are far more liberal than the public at large.

Journalists Reject Conservative Positions: None of the surveys have found that news organizations are populated by independent thinkers who mix liberal and conservative positions. Most journalists offer reflexively liberal answers to practically every question a pollster can imagine

The Public Recognizes the Bias: Since 1985, the percentage of Americans who perceive a liberal bias has doubled from 22 percent to 45 percent, nearly half the adult population. Even a plurality of Democrats now say the press is liberal.

Download the full PDF report.

http://www.mrc.org/specialreports/20.../sum063004.asp


PS - It's even worse in places like Europe, where like 9 out of 10 journalists are anti-Bush. The european sheep people are of course anti-Bush also, when all they read is crap in their media.

The mission of the Media Research Center is to bring balance and responsibility to the news media. Leaders of America's conservative movement have long believed that within the national news media a strident liberal bias existed that influenced the public's understanding of critical issues. On October 1, 1987, a group of young determined conservatives set out to not only prove - through sound scientific research - that liberal bias in the media does exist and undermines traditional American values, but also to neutralize its impact on the American political scene. What they launched that fall is the now acclaimed --- Media Research Center (MRC).

Your site is a conservative site. Sorry, try again.

edit: It just doesn't end. "What Others Say About the MRC
Read what Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bennett, Bob Novak and other leading conservatives say about the Media Research Center."Go ahead, check out what leading conservatives have to say.

[chalk_outline]

Originally posted by PacHead:
That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever heard.

The majority of journalists are anti-BUSH. I remember reading quite a few polls on that. Come on man, everybody is tuning out the liberal channels and moving to more fair stations, such as FOX.

Congrats. Laughter has never made me ejaculate before.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by chalk_outline:
Congrats. Laughter has never made me ejaculate before.

I'm happy you can fulfill your sexual fantasies on MacNN.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TubaMuffins:
Your site is a conservative site. Sorry, try again.

I know that, but they didn't make up the polls they cite. The polls weren't taken by them.

[OldManMac]

Originally posted by PacHead:
I know that, but they didn't make up the polls they cite. The polls weren't taken by them.

No, they don't make them up; they just ask make sure the pollsters they use are gauranteed to get the results they want.

Fox, "more balanced?" I damn near spit some expensive Scotch out over that one! LOL!

[TubaMuffins]

Originally posted by PacHead:
I know that, but they didn't make up the polls they cite. They're for real.

ITS BIASED. Prove it using a non-partisan source, or at least a source that is outside of the politics. I bet theres a liberal MRC dealy that says the same thing about the media being conservative, but I'm not going to quote it. Did they say whom they polled, did they talk to every journalist? No. They more than likely got replies from a sample group that favored their interest.

edit: You are right that the medai is liberal in one aspect. Bush has not appeared on TV very much giving Press releases. Oh wait, that's probably because he has given fewer press realese than any president before him, by a considearble amount.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by KarlG:
No, they don't make them up; they just ask make sure the pollsters they use are gauranteed to get the results they want.

Fox, "more balanced?" I damn near spit some expensive Scotch out over that one! LOL!

No, you are not following. That site, if you had bothered to go to it, had nothing to do with any of the polls they cite. They cite a whole bunch of polls taken through the years, inorder to prove their point. They didn't ask any of the questions, nor did they have anything to do with the polls.

As for Fox being "more balanced", people vote with their remotes, just like I said in another thread. People are tired of whiney liars on CNN etc.

[PacHead]

I guess the LA times is biased also huh ?

_• Nationwide, a 3-to-1 Liberal Advantage: When the Los Angeles Times polled journalists around the country in 1985, 55 percent were willing to call themselves liberal, far outstripping the 17 percent who said they were conservative.

Like I said, they quote from a whole bunch of polls.

[TubaMuffins]

Originally posted by PacHead:
I guess the LA times is biased also huh ?

_• Nationwide, a 3-to-1 Liberal Advantage: When the Los Angeles Times polled journalists around the country in 1985, 55 percent were willing to call themselves liberal, far outstripping the 17 percent who said they were conservative.

Like I said, they quote from a whole bunch of polls.

20 years ago does not apply anymore. 20 years ago I was one year old, does that mean I am still one year old, no. Recent and un-biased data would help your argument a lot.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TubaMuffins:
20 years ago does not apply anymore. 20 years ago I was one year old, does that mean I am still one year old, no. Recent and un-biased data would help your argument a lot.

Yeah, it's even worse today I bet.

Like I said, there's a whole bunch of polls there. Some old, some new.

Anyhow, one should hardly have to convince anybody that there is a liberal bias in the media, that is fairly obvious.

[Krusty]

Yes, FoxNews is unbiased ... its reporters aren't simply pulling talking points straight from the RNC. 5.2mb .mov

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Krusty:
Yes, FoxNews is unbiased ... its reporters aren't simply pulling talking points straight from the RNC. 5.2mb .mov

Oh please. . . . . .

"Flip Flop" is a common knowledge word to describe Kerry's Flip Flopping (oops, guess I'm guilty too) . The word was used long before the RNC was held, and everybody has used that word practically, not just people on Fox.

Here's a Google news search for John Kerry Flip Flop = 1200 hits

http://news.google.com/news?q=flip%2...a=N&tab=wn

I assume all of these websites are conservative ?

I assume everyone of them is pulling talking points straight from the RNC ?

Your argument is not a very good one, and doesn't prove a single thing.

What else would you call a flip flopper, besides a flip flopper ?

[chris v]

Originally posted by PacHead:
lying gestapo liberal media

Oh, and be sure to scream bloody murder if anyone makes any Nazi-Germany/Republican comparisons. Compulsory moves include use of words "Hate-filled" and "Desperation."

God forbid anyone should discuss how this election might measurably effect an of our actual lives.

Mantra: Swiftboat. Terror. Swiftboat. Terror.

[TubaMuffins]

Originally posted by PacHead:
What else would you call a flip flopper, besides a flip flopper ?

a politician. they all do it. nothing special about Kerry as a flip-flopper. Plus that word is so damn annoying now that people are saying it left and right.

[Spliffdaddy]

heh. Trying to spin Kerry the flip-flopper into *just* a politician.

Sorry folks. He's falling like a rock in the polls. For good reason.

All you liberals should visit the "Why are you voting for Kerry" thread and tell us why. Because I see a lot of names in this thread that avoided the other one.

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Check out this audio that shows yet more coordination between media members and DNC/Kerry campaign officials.

What's wrong, libs... can't think for yourselves? Just follow the prepared script.

You do know FoxNews was hired to coordinate the RNC.

"fair and balanced"

Everyone does this crap... welcome to american politics.