[nate_02]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...6&ncid=716

[wtf_reporter]

probably their test blewup on their butts as they ran for cover?

[CD Hanks]

Let the games begin.

[PacHead]

Guess we're going to have to do something about them soon also. This way we'll be Fair and Balanced™, and people won't accuse us of only being against muslims terrorists or something.

[ambush]

Why would YOU have to do something about it?

Let the ****ing WORLD decide.

This is OUR planet not only YOUR planet.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by ambush:
Why would YOU have to do something about it?

Let the ****ing WORLD decide.

This is OUR planet not only YOUR planet.

Everybody knows the world is impotent. The only people with the balls to handle anything is the USA, duh.

Most countries can't even clean up crap in their own back yard. (cough - - -kosovo - - -cough)

[torsoboy]

Originally posted by ambush:
Why would YOU have to do something about it?

Let the ****ing WORLD decide.

This is OUR planet not only YOUR planet.

oh don't worry, it'll go to the UN, but if they decide to chicken out (like usual), then i'm sure our government will take action. thank goodness at least one country doesn't just sit on it's arse thinking "well, they're not going to blow us up, so it's not our problem."

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Guess we're going to have to do something about them soon also. This way we'll be Fair and Balanced™, and people won't accuse us of only being against muslims terrorists or something.

I don't think you want that. If a bunch of fundamentalists with pathetic weapons can give the US a run for their money I really don't think Korea is going to have much trouble.

Plus china would not look kindly on US involvement.. an they could whup you guys very badly.

[wtf_reporter]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Everybody knows the world is impotent. The only people with the balls to handle anything is the USA, duh.

Most countries can't even clean up crap in their own back yard. (cough - - -kosovo - - -cough)

spoken like a dick****!

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:


Plus china would not look kindly on US involvement.. an they could whup you guys very badly.

lol

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by torsoboy:
oh don't worry, it'll go to the UN, but if they decide to chicken out (like usual), then i'm sure our government will take action. thank goodness at least one country doesn't just sit on it's arse thinking "well, they're not going to blow us up, so it's not our problem."

This is shocking coming from americans. This has got to be a minority opinion.. any country where the population is in favor of a nuclear war is insane.

Oh boy, the US have nukes. You guys better launch a preemptive strike on yourselves before you do something stupid, again

[PacHead]

Originally posted by wtf_reporter:
spoken like a dick****!

My fanclub is not accepting anymore invitations at the moment.

You'll just have to que in line and wait like everyone else.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Plus china would not look kindly on US involvement.. an they could whup you guys very badly.

They won't. If there is any combat to be done on Korean soil, it'll be a joint SK/US/Chinese grouping.

Remember: China wants to be our buddy as we do them. It makes both parties quite wealthy...as opposed to...dead.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Everybody knows the world is impotent. The only people with the balls to handle anything is the USA, duh.

Most countries can't even clean up crap in their own back yard. (cough - - -kosovo - - -cough)

:cough: KKK :cough:

btw, didn't you bomb the sh*t out of them too? an it was the nice canadians who kept the peace.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
This is shocking coming from americans. This has got to be a minority opinion.. any country where the population is in favor of a nuclear war is insane.

Oh boy, the US have nukes. You guys better launch a preemptive strike on yourselves before you do something stupid, again

Who said anything about a nuclear exchange?

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
They won't. If there is any combat to be done on Korean soil, it'll be a joint SK/US/Chinese grouping.

Remember: China wants to be our buddy as we do them. It makes both parties quite wealthy...as opposed to...dead.

Yeah.. wealth.. dead.. no one is going to be worrying about morals

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
:cough: KKK :cough:

btw, didn't you bomb the sh*t out of them too? an it was the nice canadians who kept the peace.

Who gives a crap about the KKK ? Seriously, a bunch of idiots wearing white bedsheets over their heads ? What does the KKK have to do with anything ? Are they a threat to the world or anything ?

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Who said anything about a nuclear exchange?

Seems korea has nukes. Nuke + bomber = what the US did to japan.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Yeah.. wealth.. dead.. no one is going to be worrying about morals

They haven't for a while, so why they would start now is beyond my comprehension.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Who gives a crap about the KKK ? Seriously, a bunch of idiots wearing white bedsheets over their heads ? What does the KKK have to do with anything ? Are they a threat to the world or anything ?

I don't know. Are a bunch of serbs in kosovo a threat to the world??

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Seems korea has nukes. Nuke + bomber = what the US did to japan.

North or South? Who's nuke + bomber?

Can I buy an adjective?

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
I don't know. Are a bunch of serbs in kosovo a threat to the world??

Lemme know when the powerful KKK army with their tanks etc., begins their genocide campaign. I'm 100% behind you !

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
North or South? Who's nuke + bomber?

Can I buy an adjective?

The north's.

No, but I have some nice adverbs for sale.

[torsoboy]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
I don't think you want that. If a bunch of fundamentalists with pathetic weapons can give the US a run for their money I really don't think Korea is going to have much trouble.

Plus china would not look kindly on US involvement.. an they could whup you guys very badly.

i think the main problem is that US has too many rules in it's wars. those "fundamentalists with pathetic weapons" didn't give us a "run for our money", they decided to go hide somewhere where we wouldn't shoot them (shrines, mosques, hospitals, anywhere with lots of women and children)... then peek out of the corners and shoot and run and hide again. if we fought like they did, and went after them regardless of where they were, they would all be destroyed in no time... it's our dang ethics that keeps up from wiping those idiots off of the planet. sometimes i think that in order to keep war even, we all gotta play by the same rules; how can we be expected to win at all when they play "dirty" and we play "fair"?

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
The north's.

No, but I have some nice adverbs for sale.

It would seem they have some low yield nuclear weapons, yes. They (I am presuming) now have them because they used the guise of "oh hay wed like nuclear power kthxbye"

What they don't have (yet) is the ability to launch them farther than SK/Japan/China in range.

However, in the best interest of stability, I doubt the exchange would go all out nuclear. I would imagine it'd be a fairly conventional battle.

On the other hand, we do have subs off the coast of Korea with first and second strike capabilities. Low yield weapons, meant for "surgical" strikes as well.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Lemme know when the powerful KKK army with their tanks etc., begins their genocide campaign. I'm 100% behind you !

So two groups fighting in some other country is the US's business, but the KKK murdering people "in your backyard" isn't. Ahh, such moral clarity I see.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by torsoboy:
i think the main problem is that US has too many rules in it's wars. those "fundamentalists with pathetic weapons" didn't give us a "run for our money", they decided to go hide somewhere where we wouldn't shoot them (shrines, mosques, hospitals, anywhere with lots of women and children)... then peek out of the corners and shoot and run and hide again. if we fought like they did, and went after them regardless of where they were, they would all be destroyed in no time... it's our dang ethics that keeps up from wiping those idiots off of the planet. sometimes i think that in order to keep war even, we all gotta play by the same rules; how can we be expected to win at all when they play "dirty" and we play "fair"?

We're playing nice at the moment. But believe me, if some dirty nuke went off in a US city with massive casualties, we're going to turn the place where the guilty people are from into a massive parking lot.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
So two groups fighting in some other country is the US's business, but the KKK murdering people "in your backyard" isn't. Ahh, such moral clarity I see.

Yeah, I hear about KKK murders everyday on the news. It's a huge problem.

[torsoboy]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
So two groups fighting in some other country is the US's business, but the KKK murdering people "in your backyard" isn't. Ahh, such moral clarity I see.

the KKK doesn't really do anything. well, they have adopted part of the highway in the "adopt a highway" program. but i don't think we should go killing them for that.

[CD Hanks]

OH NOES!!!

Final Victory in Confrontation with U.S. Called for

Pyongyang, September 8 (KCNA) -- If the U.S. imperialists ignite a new war while going against the trend of the times, the army and the people of Korea will wipe out all the aggressors with their inexhaustible ideological might and merciless striking capacity they have built for scores of years and win final victory in the long-standing confrontation with the U.S., said Pak Pong Ju, premier of the DPRK Cabinet in his report at a national meeting celebrating the 56th anniversary of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea held here this afternoon. He clarified this stand, referring to the situation on the Korean peninsula growing tense owing to the U.S. imperialists' heinous hostile policy toward the DPRK.
The U.S. bellicose forces are driving the situation on the Korean peninsula to the brink of a war by shipping more latest war equipment into south Korea under the pretext of "reduction" of its troops and staging madcap exercises for a war of aggression, he said.
The army and the people of Korea are maintaining full combat posture with the will to fight in a do-or-die spirit and the spirit of annihilating the enemy to cope with the adventurous moves of the U.S. imperialists, he noted, urging them to clearly see who their rival is and act with discretion.
It is a foolish pipedream to try to stifle the DPRK by force of arms, he warned.

http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2004/200409/news09/09.htm#14

[PacHead]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
OH NOES!!!



http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2004/200409/news09/09.htm#14

Lol, so that's what happened to that guy Comical Ali or whatever his name was. He obviously went to work for the North Korean pervert with the 5 dollar haircut.

[demograph68]

[Krusty]

Hmmm .... lets see. An ACTUAL nuclear explosion indicating an ACTUAL nuclear capability. Sounds like a lot more dangerous than the FAKE nuclear threat from Iraq. Unfortunately, seems like a lot of our troops (and Guardsmen and Reserves) are a little tied up right now chasing ghosts of WMD in Iraq.

To conservatives: Do you now see why going around chasing fake threats like the one in Iraq was a dumb idea ? Has the War in Iraq made us safer ? Apparently not ... while we are busy changing regimes in impotent but oil rich states, actual threats are actively developing elsewhere under our noses. Smart policy

[Invictus]

I watched an interview awhile back on TV. I think it was a Canadian aid worker or something. He said the people are so oppressed and impoverished that they literally eat shoe leather to survive. And it was not uncommon to see people on the side of the road dying and begging for food.

The military and the police and their families are treated and fed well to secure their loyalty.

I don't think anyone wants to go in and nuke these people I'm sure. They know nothing of the outside world except what they are told which of course is zippo.

Sad.

[olePigeon]

This is so unbelievably scary. North Korea actually has missiles that can reach the U.S. Now they have nukes they can stick on those missiles. North Korea already told us that they had ICBMs that could reach the U.S., now they've proven that they have nuclear capabilities.

North Korea is also the type of country that would launch them. Their children, the people who've grown up there, they are literally taught to hate America and our allies. This isn't like Iraq where you have "extremist groups" teaching this, this is their entire government.

I sure hope it was an accident.

[Zimphire]

Hey olePig, I thought your buddy Clinton said N. Korea was not making nukes?

Remember he payed them off and stuff.

Mission Accomplished.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Hey olePig, I thought your buddy Clinton said N. Korea was not making nukes?

Remember he payed them off and stuff.

Mission Accomplished.

No. However, I do remember North Korea leaving the Nonproliferation Act. Then North Korea said they would stop their nuclear weapons program in exchange for nuclear power plants. So Clinton eased economic sanction on North Korea to help with the development of power plants. We then gave North Korea about $5 billion to build two power plants. Building the plants doesn't go as quickly as originally planned so North Korea threatens to continue its weapons programs again (they made multiple threats off and on.) So Clinton's term ends in the middle of this and Bush takes over.

Then North Korea makes another threat that they'll start weapons testing again if Bush doesn't make good on the already strained relationship between North Korea and the United States. Bush basically calls North Korea an assh*le to their face, sorry, Axis of Evil. Then the Secret Service finds out that North Korea has had a second weapons program going on in secret, in violation of the 1994 agreement set by the Clinton administration. By then North Korea admits to having nuclear weapons and is now testing ICBMs around Japan. So Bush has the U.S., Japan, and South Korea stop all oil shipments to North Korea.

North Korea says that it will be leaving the Nonproliferation Act (again), demands that all U.N. nuclear monitoring services are removed, then states that any ruling by the U.N. will be ignored so they can protect themselves from the growing threat in the Pacific from the United States (where have we heard that excuse before?)

[acadian]

Guess we're going to have to do something about them soon also. This way we'll be Fair and Balanced™, and people won't accuse us of only being against muslims terrorists or something.

Good luck with that. As a matter of fact, N.Korea has spent the better part of the cold war to present developing a war posture directly with the U.S. No other nation has taken the steps they have to prepare for an all out, one on one war with the West as has N.Korea. They do not nor have they ever anticipated Chinese help. The entire country is networked with a lattice of sophisticated tunnels designed to bring the bulk of the N.Korean war machine underground in what they anticipate to be an eventual escalation towards a nuclear exchange with the U.S. Although the U.S. would most likely emerge victorious in a coflict, they would not do so without significant losses both abroad and domestically. While naval battle groups in the sea of japan make for reassuring first strike capabilities, they are also notoriously vulnerable to counter strike themselves(if you know they are there, dont you think the N.Koreans do as well?), as is the pacific coast of the U.S. First to be hit however would be Japan, specifically U.S. naval interests in Japan. N.Korea has no misconception as to the eventual outcome of a conflict with the U.S., Kim Jong's only goal is to inflict as much damage as possible onto the U.S. in the process. Hopefully the Bush war machine (aka, the four horsemen), will not be riding the white when and if things come to a boil.

[Brien]

Originally posted by olePigeon:
This is so unbelievably scary. North Korea actually has missiles that can reach the U.S. Now they have nukes they can stick on those missiles. North Korea already told us that they had ICBMs that could reach the U.S., now they've proven that they have nuclear capabilities.

North Korea is also the type of country that would launch them. Their children, the people who've grown up there, they are literally taught to hate America and our allies. This isn't like Iraq where you have "extremist groups" teaching this, this is their entire government.

I sure hope it was an accident.

Then you better start building that bomb shelter, because N. Korea (Ang Kim Jong Il) won't think twice to launch at us. Although, more than likely, we'll start this war, seeing as Bush is playing RISK right now.

I sure the hell hope whoever wins the election doesn't get us into a nuclear picnic.

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Everybody knows the world is impotent. The only people with the balls to handle anything is the USA, duh.

Most countries can't even clean up crap in their own back yard. (cough - - -kosovo - - -cough)

The USA does not have the balls to touch North Korea and the six million members of the North Korean armed forces. They have nuclear warheads on ICBM's and they are pointed at the US and Europe.

Not a nice thought.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
The USA does not have the balls to touch North Korea and the six million members of the North Korean armed forces. They have nuclear warheads on ICBM's and they are pointed at the US and Europe.

Not a nice thought.

From an unclassified CIA report to congress 2002:

We recently learned that the North is constructing a plant that could produce enough weapons-grade uranium for two or more nuclear weapons per year when fully operational -- which could be as soon as mid-decade.

I don't really believe they have anything of significance, if they have much at all. Nukes don't grow on trees. If they must be dealt with, it's better to do it sooner than later, when they will indeed have more stuff. A madman with 1 or 2 nukes is a serious threat, that same madman with 25 nukes is a potential catastrophe.

I doubt the USA will make any first moves, but if things came down to it, then obviously we wouldn't just have the balls, but we would have no choice.

As for the six million troops, I'd say South Korea would be in deep crap if something would happen. Ironically, many in South Korea wants the US troops out and they don't like us. I'll bet those same hypocritical people would be begging for our help, should the North decide to take a little stroll down south.

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by PacHead:
From an unclassified CIA report to congress 2002:

We recently learned that the North is constructing a plant that could produce enough weapons-grade uranium for two or more nuclear weapons per year when fully operational -- which could be as soon as mid-decade.

I don't really believe they have anything of significance, if they have much at all. Nukes don't grow on trees. If they must be dealt with, it's better to do it sooner than later, when they will indeed have more stuff. A madman with 1 or 2 nukes is a serious threat, that same madman with 25 nukes is a potential catastrophe.

I doubt the USA will make any first moves, but if things came down to it, then obviously we wouldn't just have the balls, but we would have no choice.

As for the six million troops, I'd say South Korea would be in deep crap if something would happen. Ironically, many in South Korea wants the US troops out and they don't like us. I'll bet those same hypocritical people would be begging for our help, should the North decide to take a little stroll down south.

I don't have much faith in US (or anyone else's) intelligence reports anymore.
And I would consider a Madman with one or two nukes a potential catastrophe.

What people don't realize is that North Korea is currently like no other country we have dealt with, invasion would be impossible. They have been preparing for it for 30 years, they have tank blocks and watchmen on all major roads, everyone is armed and trained, millions of people would be killed.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
What people don't realize is that North Korea is currently like no other country we have dealt with, invasion would be impossible. They have been preparing for it for 30 years, they have tank blocks and watchmen on all major roads, everyone is armed and trained, millions of people would be killed.

I pretty much agree with that.

[zen jihad]

As soon as the US disarms, and Israel, and the Uk, etc. then I think they can have the gall to demand N. Korea to do the same.

They have every right to develop technology and arms as any other nation does. Just because the US has decided to demonise them for their own selfish national interests, doesn't mean the N. Koreans are wrong in having a nuclear detterent.

Hope N. Korea has the balls to stand up to the playground bullies

[zen jihad]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Guess we're going to have to do something about them soon also. This way we'll be Fair and Balanced™, and people won't accuse us of only being against muslims terrorists or something.

You act like 'you' actually do the world a favour. You forget that it was the UN and NATO that did something about Bosnia, Kosovo, etc. Don;t confuse American foregn policy, and national interests with wars for human rights, and injustice.

So before you go around talking like you are the old good guys, doing what no other nation does, get a grip on the facts, and the reality, then you can talk.

[entrox]

It was just a forest fire. Move along.

[Scientist]

Originally posted by entrox:
It was just a forest fire. Move along.

I sure hope you are right...

[chris v]

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
What people don't realize is that North Korea is currently like no other country we have dealt with, invasion would be impossible. They have been preparing for it for 30 years, they have tank blocks and watchmen on all major roads, everyone is armed and trained, millions of people would be killed.

Actually, not quite. Vietnam and Iraq hold the current titles for "places that our guys aren't used to." North Korea has a similar lattitude to that of New York state. However, the relatively large ground army would pose a problem. In this case, one could expect either a) tactical nukes to be used against them (by the US, presumably) or b) liberal use of cruise missles on weapons depots and large collections of military personnel. This would primarily be a air to ground battle.

Originally posted by zen jihad:
As soon as the US disarms, and Israel, and the Uk, etc. then I think they can have the gall to demand N. Korea to do the same.

They have every right to develop technology and arms as any other nation does. Just because the US has decided to demonise them for their own selfish national interests, doesn't mean the N. Koreans are wrong in having a nuclear detterent.

Hope N. Korea has the balls to stand up to the playground bullies

Wow...just...wow.

No, they do not have a right to, almost entirely because their leader is an inbred psychotic despot who has effectively brainwashed his entire country in what can only be described as Orwellian in tactics. I somehow doubt anyone wants someone like him with the capability to use nuclear weapons.

And this wouldn't be a deterrant force, this would be a first strike weapon. As has been said before, NK will be the one to start the match, but either the United States, China, and/or South Korea will be the ones to finish it.

edit:

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
The USA does not have the balls to touch North Korea and the six million members of the North Korean armed forces. They have nuclear warheads on ICBM's and they are pointed at the US and Europe.

Not a nice thought.

North Korea does not have ICBMs pointed at the US and Europe.

Their armed forces comprise of 1.2 million people, and ranks in as the fourth largest land army, not six million.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by entrox:
It was just a forest fire. Move along.

Forest fires don't make mushroom clouds 2.5mi in diameter, and craters visible from space.