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Nature & the Beeb: The Science of the Presidential Election
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The BBC has a summary of a special by the scientific journal Nature here:
The leading international science journal Nature has focussed the US presidential election campaign on science by asking both President George Bush and Senator John Kerry for their views on the major issues.
Both candidates were given 15 questions and asked to confine their answers to a total of 1,500 words. Mr Bush had to be edited as he overran; Mr Kerry kept within the limit.
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Topics covered by the Beeb: - Stem-cell research
- Climate change
- New nuclear weapons
- Missile defence (Beeb's spelling, not mine)
- Manned space exploration
- GM crops
- US lifestyles
I read them all, and on balance, I have to give the  to Kerry. Bush is lousy on some issues, paints a pretty picture with little substance on others. I can't think of a single category where he outstrips Kerry, whilst Kerry wins outright on at least one (stem-cell research).
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I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)
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Overall I agree. for Kerry.
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I could take Sean Connery in a fight... I could definitely take him.
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Lousy why? Because he doesn't agree with you?
Pffft.
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Both sounded a bit hollow to me.
Since Bush's record clearly points out the hypocrisy in some of his pronouncements so its easy to sneer. Kerry, OTOH, says some of the right things but still sounds like he's playing it waaaaaay to safe for my taste. I find it hard to believe him.
I guess I don't find it all that persuasive. Bush's record of aggressively attacking and undermining nearly every health and environmental standard belies whatever carefully crafted answers he might offer to this questionaire. In other words, what he says here means nothing to me because his record of the last 4 years already says what I need to know--he's dangerous.
Kerry just sounds like another politician who won't do much. He'll probably end Bush's all out assault, but I don't believe he'll be making and big, controversial decisions to put this country on the right track environmentally.
So I guess its a choice between the fast road to disaster or the slow one.
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"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -- Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
Bush [...] paints a pretty picture with little substance on others.).
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That sums up all of his speeches lately. The dude is just talking flowers and rainbows with nothing to back him up. "we have to do this", "we have to do that". My girlfriend (republican) keeps laughing when she hears him speak and she still isn't sure she'll vote for him again.
On the other hand, someone should slap Kerry around and tell him to stop being such a wuss. Comes a time you need to forget the polls, advisors and whatnot and go for broke. Kick some ass for once.
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Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
The BBC has a summary of a special by the scientific journal Nature here:
Topics covered by the Beeb:- Stem-cell research
- Climate change
- New nuclear weapons
- Missile defence (Beeb's spelling, not mine)
- Manned space exploration
- GM crops
- US lifestyles
I read them all, and on balance, I have to give the to Kerry.
Climate change: patterns in nature
Stem cell research: Not the cure-all
Nukes: Oh no!, you say
Missile Defence: Eeeeevil!
Explorations: We need to find ET!
GM crops: Oh no! Franken-food!
US lifestyles: �
Never, ever would have expected you to come out on for Kerry. Especially with your moderate stances. Kerry, the man of the centrists!
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Kerry is just trying to ACT like a centrist. He is hardly in the middle.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Kerry is just trying to ACT like a centrist. He is hardly in the middle.
More unsupported BS. Keep it spewing.
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Here's the full Nature piece.
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I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)
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Originally posted by deedar:
More unsupported BS. Keep it spewing.
Unsupported? He keeps changing his stance to the polls deeder. He is trying to act more of a centrist.
You still have to apologize for this little quip.
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...ze#post2184502
After I proved what I said was right. You never responded.
I wonder why.
You keep on making said BS comments, when it's you that is having credibility problems in here. Not me.
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