[typoon]

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/art...4krs14-ON.html

Knight Ridder Newspapers
Oct. 14, 2004 03:08 PM

If Osama bin Laden ever buys a rap album, he'll probably start with a CD by KRS-One.

The hip-hop anarchist has declared his solidarity with al-Qaida by asserting that he and other African-Americans "cheered when 9-11 happened," reports the New York Daily News.

The rapper, real name Kris Parker, defiled the memory of those who died in the terrorist attacks as he spouted off at a recent New Yorker Festival panel discussion.

"I say that proudly," the Boogie Down Productions founder went on, insisting that, before the attack, security guards kept Blacks out of the World Trade Center "because of the way we talk and dress.

"So when the planes hit the building, we were like, 'Mmmm - justice.' "

The atrocity of 9-11 "doesn't affect us the hip-hop community," he said. "9-11 happened to them, not us," he added, explaining that by "them" he meant "the rich ... those who are oppressing us. RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations."

Parker also sneered at efforts by other rappers to get young people to vote.

"Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption," he added. "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place."

[itai195]

I heard about this on the radio this morning. I wonder what the rest of the 'hiphoppas' think.

[PacHead]

Genius rappers (thugs) are probably more worried about getting gunned down from one of their own than from any al-qaeda types.



Anyhow, I know plenty of people (both blacks & non-blacks,) and they don't share this moron's views.

Maybe he'll meet the same fate as tupac soon, he is in a violent business afterall. The genepool would be greatly improved when this happens.

[MindFad]

Originally posted by typoon:
The atrocity of 9-11 "doesn't affect us the hip-hop community," he said. "9-11 happened to them, not us," he added, explaining that by "them" he meant "the rich ... those who are oppressing us. RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations."

Has this mofo actually listened to the crap they play on the radio?

So ... uh, yeah, sounds like a moron.

Obviously, this means all black people and rap artists are happy about 9-11, right, based on this one moron?

[davesimondotcom]

I would guess that this is some sort of a misquote or misunderstanding. KRS-ONE is a respectable guy, I grew up listening to him and BDP...

[PacHead]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
I would guess that this is some sort of a misquote or misunderstanding. KRS-ONE is a respectable guy, I grew up listening to him and BDP...

I doubt it, he has some suspicious connections, such as being very nation of islam (scumbags) friendly, and his statements don't surprise me.

[Xeo]

Sounds like he's got some pretty skewed and racist ideas there.

Naturally the only ones affected by the WTC attack was the rich music industry types. Forget about the people who worked there and died, or their families...

[Xeo]

Originally posted by PacHead:
nation of islam (scumbags)

Oh come now.

Originally from here
What the Muslim Wants
4. We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years--until we are able to produce and supply our own needs.

Of course all Muslims care about slavery in the U.S. 150 years ago. Yep. All of 'em.

(Here's a hint. You weren't a slave so you don't have former slave masters. And if you're talking about your ancestors slave masters, guess what? They're dead! Yep. All of 'em.)

And no one is stopping them from going off to set up their own country. Go for it. See ya.

[edit] OK, so now I want to go on this rant. There were SO many immigrants that came to the U.S. after slavery ended. Many, many Americans are descended from these people. My great-great grandmother and father moved here. They didn't own slaves. That's true of so many people in this country, that just because we're white doesn't mean our blood lines had anything to do with slavery in this country. It's just crap.

[typoon]

Here is his response.
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3618

KRS-One has hit back at the New York Daily News, after the newspaper ran an article that labeled him a “Hip-Hop Anarchist.”

In yesterday’s (October 14th) popular Rush & Malloy’s daily gossip column, the paper accused the Bronx bred rapper of defiling the memory of people who were killed in the 9/11 attacks on the United States at the New Yorker Festival, where KRS was a panelist.

The article also accused KRS of siding with Al Qaeda, the terror organization that is blamed for orchestrating the deadly attacks.

“Like everyone I was shocked to read that I and other African-Americans actually ‘cheered when 911 happened’ and that I have ‘declared my solidarity with Al Qaeda,’” KRS said in a statement. “When I read my words taken out of context I was shocked and disappointed that the Daily News would go this far to assassinate my character and distort my views.”

KRS called the piece irresponsible journalism and pointed out that the magazine never attempted to follow up or even interview him to clarify his statements.

“I was making an objective point about how many Hiphoppas as well as the oppressed peoples of the world felt that day,” KRS continued. “I am a philosopher and a critical thinker, I speak truth and I urge people to think critically about themselves and their environment. Yes, my words are strong. Yes, my views are controversial. But to call me a terrorist is simply wrong!”

KRS said that he never intended to disrespect the memories of those who lost their lives and said that he was making a statement.

“I was just as saddened as everyone else on 9/11,” he continued. “However, for many of us that were racially profiled and harassed by the World’s Trade Center’s security and the police patrolling that area as well as the thousands of American protesters that spoke out against the World Trade Organization months before in Seattle, Washington there was a sense of justice, a sense of change, a wake up call watching the twin towers fall.”

[constrictor]

Hmmm...how long after certain provisions of our government are passed into law do they expire? We could use a little rollback, methinks.

[Mithras]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
I would guess that this is some sort of a misquote or misunderstanding. KRS-ONE is a respectable guy, I grew up listening to him and BDP...

I also remember liking KRS-ONE way back when. Too bad he's turned out a chump.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Xeo:
Oh come now.

NOI is nothing but a bunch of racist blacks wearing geeky looking bowties. Farrakhan and his bunch of goons spew hate and they recruit significant numbers from prisons. A bunch of lowlifes, losers and criminals is what makes up NOI.

[lil'babykitten]

Who the hell is this guy anyway? Never even heard of him, I guess he's trying to get some attention to try and sell some records. Dumbass.

Don't be dissin' Tupac though. He ruled.

[Lysistrata]

I wouldn't be surprised that African-Americans cheered when the towers fell. 3000 people died in one day, while in the Congo War in Africa approx. 3000 die every day - around 3.5 million in total. Which story gets the press? And why?

[PacHead]

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Who the hell is this guy anyway? Never even heard of him, I guess he's trying to get some attention to try and sell some records. Dumbass.

Don't be dissin' Tupac though. He ruled.

If you've never heard of KRS before, you obviously don't know much about hip-hop, and tupac was also a moron, speaking from first hand knowledge.

[OAW]

"The hip-hop anarchist has declared his solidarity with al-Qaida by asserting that he and other African-Americans "cheered when 9-11 happened," reports the New York Daily News."

Has anyone besides me noticed that the article doesn't provide a single quote where KRS-One "declared his solidarity with al-Qaida"? Has anyone besides me noticed that the article doesn't provide a single quote where he asserted that "he and other African-Americans cheered when 9-11 happened"?

Seems like a pretty clear cut case of an inflammatory headline designed to sell a story to me.



OAW

[lil'babykitten]

Originally posted by PacHead:
If you've never heard of KRS before, you obviously don't know much about hip-hop, and tupac was also a moron, speaking from first hand knowledge.

I only listen to GOOD hip-hop music. Hence my admiration for 2Pac.

You dare to diss 2Pac?!!?!!?



But if you don't like his music then you really have no idea what Rap/R&B is then.

West Side!

[PacHead]

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
I only listen to GOOD hip-hop music. Hence my admiration for 2Pac.

You dare to diss 2Pac?!!?!!?



But if you don't like his music then you really have no idea what Rap/R&B is then.

West Side!

You're european, therefore unqualified to even speak about hiphop. KRS was around for decades before anybody even heard of tupac. For you not to have ever heard of KRS is pretty funny, since you claim to know something about hiphop.

As for tupac, im not dissing his music. I could care less about his music, I'm saying he was not a nice person in real life, when he was still alive.

[lil'babykitten]

Originally posted by PacHead:
You're european, therefore unqualified to even speak about hiphop. KRS was around for decades before anybody even heard of tupac. For you not to have ever heard of KRS is pretty funny, since you claim to know something about hiphop.

So what if he was around before 2Pac? I know KRS's lyrics have always been controversial. 'Pac describes him as America's Nightmare in one of his songs.

Anywho...OAW has a good point. Where are the actual quotes of what he said? We might have jumped the gun here...

[eklipse]

Originally posted by OAW:
Seems like a pretty clear cut case of an inflammatory headline designed to sell a story to me.

Agreed.

Most likely: the story is bull.

[nredman]

i never really liked KRS-One, never thought he was that good or important as a rap artist...i really dislike him now because of this...oh and he has a really big nose too.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by PacHead:
NOI is nothing but a bunch of racist blacks wearing geeky looking bowties. Farrakhan and his bunch of goons spew hate and they recruit significant numbers from prisons. A bunch of lowlifes, losers and criminals is what makes up NOI.

Sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet I guess.

[deomacius]

Whoop, Whoop


That's the sound o' da police.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by Lysistrata:
I wouldn't be surprised that African-Americans cheered when the towers fell. 3000 people died in one day, while in the Congo War in Africa approx. 3000 die every day - around 3.5 million in total. Which story gets the press? And why?

And one has anything whatsoever to do with the other exactly how??

Amazing how the hopeless victim mentality some people have is so dense, that they manufacture victimhood out of virtually *ANYTHING*.

So now all of a sudden 9/11 is a fair game for the idiotic race card?

So no minorities worked in or were allowed inside the WTC? Only racist white people worked in the WTC and were the only ones killed that day, and of course they all deserved it. Riiiiiiight.

It’s truly fascinating and sad at the same time the woefully simplistic (and downright stupid) world some people have created in their own little minds, especially when they’ve cast themselves at the center of it as the perpetual ‘victim’.

[nath]

Originally posted by PacHead:
You're european, therefore unqualified to even speak about hiphop. KRS was around for decades before anybody even heard of tupac. For you not to have ever heard of KRS is pretty funny, since you claim to know something about hiphop.

As for tupac, im not dissing his music. I could care less about his music, I'm saying he was not a nice person in real life, when he was still alive.

meh. some of us europeans are very well informed with regards hip hop if you don't mind.

but you shouldn't hold back, tupac's music really did suck. he was good at pretending to be a gangster though, which appears to be the main priority for rappers these days.


[sings]
1 2 3
this crew is called BDP
and if you wanna get to the tip top
stop the violence in hip hop
whyyyyyyy-oh!

[Lysistrata]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
And one has anything whatsoever to do with the other exactly how??

Amazing how the hopeless victim mentality some people have is so dense, that they manufacture victimhood out of virtually *ANYTHING*.

So now all of a sudden 9/11 is a fair game for the idiotic race card?

So no minorities worked in or were allowed inside the WTC? Only racist white people worked in the WTC and were the only ones killed that day, and of course they all deserved it. Riiiiiiight.

It’s truly fascinating and sad at the same time the woefully simplistic (and downright stupid) world some people have created in their own little minds, especially when they’ve cast themselves at the center of it as the perpetual ‘victim’.

Yeah, 3.5 million dead Africans don't count. It's 'manufactured victimhood'. Only Americans suffer.

[Spliffdaddy]

I haven't killed a single African.

PS, Tupac was da bomb.

[BRussell]

Originally posted by typoon:
Here is his response.
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3618

“However, for many of us that were racially profiled and harassed by the World’s Trade Center’s security and the police patrolling that area as well as the thousands of American protesters that spoke out against the World Trade Organization months before in Seattle, Washington there was a sense of justice, a sense of change, a wake up call watching the twin towers fall.”

I guess that's what you call a non-denial denial.

[itai195]

Originally posted by OAW:
Seems like a pretty clear cut case of an inflammatory headline designed to sell a story to me.



OAW

Probably, but the clarification he made (typoon posted it) didn't sound very convincing to me, either. Anyway, who said this guy can speak for an entire community?

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by Lysistrata:
Yeah, 3.5 million dead Africans don't count. It's 'manufactured victimhood'. Only Americans suffer.

Obviously you still can't figure out that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Try again.

[Lysistrata]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
I haven't killed a single African.

Not directly. Over 3 million have died in the Congo War. The war are primarily fueled by by Western mining interests. The mineral coltan is the most lucrative. Coltan is used to make components for mobile phones and computers. Hence anyone with a mobile phone or computer is indirectly involved. See http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolit...eOverResources

And yet for the last three years the news media seems to be only interested in 3000 Americans.

[itai195]

Originally posted by Lysistrata:
And yet for the last three years the news media seems to be only interested in 3000 Americans.

Either way, does that make it okay to cheer at the deaths of 3000 people?

[Lysistrata]

Originally posted by itai195:
Either way, does that make it okay to cheer at the deaths of 3000 people?

It puts it into perspective

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by Lysistrata:
Hence anyone with a mobile phone or computer is indirectly involved.

And you posted this from what? An abacus? Or you made modem-fart noises with your mouth through the phone line until your words appeared on this message board?

So I should cheer if terrorists were to blow your house up, killing you, and consider it justice?

[Atomic Rooster]

Is Michael Jackson black?

[spiky_dog]

Originally posted by deomacius:
Whoop, Whoop

That's the sound o' da police.

that was krs-one? i remember that, from an old eastern underground compilation cd along with other classics such as bonita applebaum and c.r.e.a.m.

[Spliffdaddy]

I achieved a 74kbps data throughput just now - by making farting noises into a telephone with an AOL dialup connection.

Computers? Who needs 'em.

[Lysistrata]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
And you posted this from what? An abacus? Or you made modem-fart noises with your mouth through the phone line until your words appeared on this message board?

What's your point?

[Isaac]

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
And one has anything whatsoever to do with the other exactly how??

Amazing how the hopeless victim mentality some people have is so dense, that they manufacture victimhood out of virtually *ANYTHING*.

So now all of a sudden 9/11 is a fair game for the idiotic race card?

So no minorities worked in or were allowed inside the WTC? Only racist white people worked in the WTC and were the only ones killed that day, and of course they all deserved it. Riiiiiiight.

It’s truly fascinating and sad at the same time the woefully simplistic (and downright stupid) world some people have created in their own little minds, especially when they’ve cast themselves at the center of it as the perpetual ‘victim’.

he made an observation and asked a f*cking question you god d*mn mother f*cking moron

Originally posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE:
Obviously you still can't figure out that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Try again.

they don't have to be related you idiot, the point is, you and many otheres cry and weep over 3000 dead americans, but don't give a flying **** about 3.5 million dead africans, and he asked why, something for you to think about maybe?... of course not, who would want to think?

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally posted by Isaac:
Mindless blather.

So should Hispanic Americans cheer when 3,000 people die in the Congo to make things even? Or perhaps Asian Americans should cheer if 3,000 Swedish mulattos die?

Neither of you two brainiacs has produced a single logical reason why anyone of any race would cheer just because someone else dies in a terrorist attack.

Oh wait, I'm expecting 'logic' to somehow spring forth from complete simpletons? Silly me.

[constrictor]

Cheering at something like this makes sense, in a way. It's a lot easier than getting up off your collective fat ass and taking responsibility for your own life instead of blaming your failure on something that happened hundreds of years ago.

[Lysistrata]

Originally posted by constrictor:
Cheering at something like this makes sense, in a way. It's a lot easier than getting up off your collective fat ass and taking responsibility for your own life instead of blaming your failure on something that happened hundreds of years ago.

What are you referring to?

[Spliffdaddy]

Originally posted by constrictor:
Cheering at something like this makes sense, in a way. It's a lot easier than getting up off your collective fat ass and taking responsibility for your own life instead of blaming your failure on something that happened hundreds of years ago.

I don't care who your ancestors were - ain't like they're gonna take responsibility for your failure to achieve. Whine and moan about it, tell me how life isn't fair, and when your done - you'll still be a loser.

[ebuddy]

originally posted by Isaac; they don't have to be related you idiot, the point is, you and many otheres cry and weep over 3000 dead americans, but don't give a flying **** about 3.5 million dead africans, and he asked why, something for you to think about maybe?... of course not, who would want to think?

You may want to relax Isaac. See, posting in these forums sometimes will get you upset, but you're getting really upset quite early on. I dare say you don't give a flying fxck about 3.5 million dead in Africa. Are you sending money? Are you supporting missionaries' work there? Are you offering your home to exchange students, or helping the many poor immigrants that made it to America from Africa. No? Be silent then. While you're "thinking", perhaps you should think about the irony that is your auto-sig. Anarchy is not the key to peace and love. These are all really cool symbols for 13 yr old goth wanna-be's, but used together make absolutely no sense at all. Vegetarians wearing leather sandals indeed!

Welcome to the Political/War Lounge.

[Cody Dawg]

Hey, Isaac:

he made an observation and asked a f*cking question you god d*mn mother f*cking moron

YOU have so much anger that I'm wondering if YOU are actually the rapper that made the comments?

[MATTRESS]

Originally posted by Lysistrata:
Yeah, 3.5 million dead Africans don't count. It's 'manufactured victimhood'. Only Americans suffer.

Even if all Africans were killed it wouldn't affect my life one iota.

Who cares? I don't, America doesn't, the world doesn't.

[MATTRESS]

Originally posted by Isaac:
they don't have to be related you idiot, the point is, you and many otheres cry and weep over 3000 dead americans, but don't give a flying **** about 3.5 million dead africans, and he asked why, something for you to think about maybe?... of course not, who would want to think?

American lives mean more to me than others.

[Spheric Harlot]

Well, at least Mattress is *openly* racist and nationalistic, I guess.

[Spliffdaddy]

The rest of us just hide it better.

[MATTRESS]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Well, at least Mattress is *openly* racist and nationalistic, I guess.

It's no different than saying "People who live in Texas or Houston mean nothing to me either."