[typoon]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=40988

A prominent Arafat aide who asked that his name be withheld spoke to WorldNetDaily from Arafat's battered Ramallah compound.

"The president [Arafat] is frustrated with Bush's policies," he said. "The president [Arafat] thinks Kerry will be much better for the Palestinian cause and for the establishment of a Palestinian state."

[mitchell_pgh]

It's probably because Bush does not recognize Arafat as a leader.

I don't either...

[Atomic Rooster]

dumb thread...

[itai195]

Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
dumb thread...

what he said

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
dumb thread...

Dumb poster...

[ThinkInsane]

If you have something to add to the topic, then add it. Let's not resort to the tactics five year-olds use on the playground.

"That's stupid!"
"You're stupid!"
"No, you're Stupid!

You see where this is going, right?

[icruise]

Unfortunately, I think many if not most of the threads here boil down to precisely that.

[warmspit]

Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
If you have something to add to the topic, then add it. Let's not resort to the tactics five year-olds use on the playground.

"That's stupid!"
"You're stupid!"
"No, you're Stupid!

You see where this is going, right?

another sterling piece of advice...directed at nonbushites. don't look now, your slant is showing.

[warmspit]

ok, here's a contribution to the thread:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...us_elections_1

Bush Receives Endorsement From Iran

Tue Oct 19, 4:22 PM ET

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer

TEHRAN, Iran - The head of Iran's security council said on Tuesday the re-election of President Bush (news - web sites) was in Tehran's best interests, despite the administration's axis of evil label, accusations that Iran harbors al-Qaida terrorists and threats of sanctions over the country's nuclear ambitions.

[vmarks]

Originally posted by warmspit:
ok, here's a contribution to the thread:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...us_elections_1

Bush Receives Endorsement From Iran

Tue Oct 19, 4:22 PM ET

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer

TEHRAN, Iran - The head of Iran's security council said on Tuesday the re-election of President Bush (news - web sites) was in Tehran's best interests, despite the administration's axis of evil label, accusations that Iran harbors al-Qaida terrorists and threats of sanctions over the country's nuclear ambitions.

Yes, the AP ran with a blatantly false headline.

The actual quotes from Iranian official Hasan Rowhani do not contain an endorsement at all, just a statement that they don’t want Democrats to take over.

"“We do not desire to see Democrats take over,” Rowhani said when asked if Iran was supporting Democratic Sen. John Kerry against Bush."

But as this AFP release at Turkish News shows, the Associated Press deliberately omitted a key portion of Hasan Rowhani’s statements that make it clear Iran does not endorse Bush at all: http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishp...s.asp?ID=31107


"It makes no difference for us which of the two parties wins the elections," Iran's top national security official Hassan Rowhani said in an interview on state television.

SUMMARY FOR THOSE KEEPING SCORE AT HOME:

1- AP ran with false headline, Iran does NOT endorse Bush.
2- Nabil Sha'ath of the PA gives a very thinly veiled endorsement of Kerry.
3- Saeb Erekat tells us that Arafat quietly endorses Kerry.
4- Jew-hating ex-prime minister of Malaysia, Mahathir Mohamad also endorses Kerry: http://www.islamicity.com/articles/A...ef=IV0410-2488

"Open letter to American Muslims



Dear Brothers and Sisters,

In the past four years, during the Presidency of George W. Bush, the Muslims and their countries have suffered oppression and humiliation as never before in the history of Islam. There is an obvious connection between the sufferings of the Muslims and the policies and thinking of Bush.

We cannot expect much change to the policies of the United States of America towards Islam and the Muslims under Democrats as under Republicans. But we have a duty to ensure that Bush will not be able to determine our fate for four more years.

Kerry may not be any different. But the candidates for the Presidency of the United States must be made aware that in democratic America, Muslim citizens have a voice and can influence the selection of the rulers of the country.

Bush has shown that despite his protests, he is the cause of the tragedies in Afghanistan, Palestine and Iraq. People, including children, women, sick and disabled people, have been and are being killed in these countries who otherwise would be alive today. Under the pretext of attacking terrorists, whole towns and villages with their populations are being destroyed by rockets and bombs.

In Palestine, Israeli gun-ships and tanks razed villages and towns to the ground killing innocent men, women and children. All these are done with the approval of President Bush and his veto in the United Nations Security Council. There is no doubt that he will continue to do this if re-elected.

I need not tell you more about the atrocities committed against the Muslims and Islam. But I would like to appeal to you, the Muslim citizens and voters of America, to be united and to cast your votes against Bush, in the name of justice, in the name of Islam.

You may not be numerous enough but in marginal constituencies you can make a difference. It is your bounden duty to send a message to candidates that they must be fair to all the communities in the United States if they wish to rule the country. Even if you fail to unseat Bush, you can at least reduce his majority. But Inshaallah, Bush will lose and Kerry will realise that his victory is partly due to you. Inshaallah, President Kerry will remember the Muslims in America when he rules the United States of America.

Dear Brothers and Sisters. Vote Bush out of office. It is truly an ibadah that you perform.



DR MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMAD
Former Prime Minister of Malaysia,
Malaysia


15th October 2004_
1st Ramadhan 1425"

[itai195]

Originally posted by vmarks:
Yes, the AP ran with a blatantly false headline.

The actual quotes from Iranian official Hasan Rowhani do not contain an endorsement at all, just a statement that they don’t want Democrats to take over.

How ironic that it was posted in a thread that claims Arafat endorsed Kerry when he also did not officially endorse anybody.

[vmarks]

Originally posted by itai195:
How ironic that it was posted in a thread that claims Arafat endorsed Kerry when he also did not officially endorse anybody.

You mean like this:
“The president [Arafat] is frustrated with Bush’s policies,” he said. “The president [Arafat] thinks Kerry will be much better for the Palestinian cause and for the establishment of a Palestinian state.”

[itai195]

Originally posted by vmarks:
You mean like this:
“The president [Arafat] is frustrated with Bush’s policies,” he said. “The president [Arafat] thinks Kerry will be much better for the Palestinian cause and for the establishment of a Palestinian state.”

That's not an official endorsement, it's no different than what the Iranian quoted above said. Anyway, why should I care who they they want to win? It's no surprise that Arafat thinks anybody but Bush could improve his situation.

[vmarks]

Originally posted by itai195:
That's not an official endorsement, it's no different than what the Iranian quoted above said. Anyway, why should I care who they they want to win? It's no surprise that Arafat thinks anybody but Bush could improve his situation.

So you're telling me that the Iranian "We don't care either way" is NO DIFFERENT from "We really don't want Bush" ?

[itai195]

Originally posted by vmarks:
So you're telling me that the Iranian "We don't care either way" is NO DIFFERENT from "We really don't want Bush" ?

It sounds like the Iranian made two conflicting statements -- 'we don't care' and 'we don't want Kerry.'

[vmarks]

Originally posted by itai195:
It sounds like the Iranian made two conflicting statements -- 'we don't care' and 'we don't want Kerry.'

No, what they said was "We don't need the Democrats, we really don't care."

[warmspit]

Originally posted by vmarks:
So you're telling me that the Iranian "We don't care either way" is NO DIFFERENT from "We really don't want Bush" ?

maybe he's pointing out that both posts are similar, but you only spent time refuting one post...proof again that this board is moderated by republics, for republicans.

[vmarks]

Originally posted by warmspit:
proof again that this board is moderated by republics.

I'm a republic? Wow!


Meanwhile, Kerry's endorsement list grows:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/041019/issues01_1.html

Just Thursday, Palestinian Authority leader and sometime terrorist Yasser Arafat endorsed Kerry. Why? Kerry did once call him a "statesman." And, as his foreign minister noted, under Kerry "several staff members during Clinton's administration would return."

Kerry has also won praise from Kim Jong Il, North Korea's totalitarian dictator, who has murdered millions of his own people. Kim calls Bush "human scum." But he likes Kerry's support of two-way talks between North Korea and the U.S. -- which would give the "beloved leader" a big negotiating advantage.

Then there's Fidel Castro -- another communist tyrant smitten with the Massachusetts senator. While Kerry delivered his acceptance speech at the Democratic convention, Castro celebrated by running a bootlegged copy of "Fahrenheit 9/11" over Cuban TV.

Don't forget former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad. Last year, Mahathir, who is often called "moderate," said Jews "rule this world by proxy." This year, he urged U.S. Muslims to vote for Kerry "in the name of Islam."

We all know, of course, whom President Jacques Chirac of France and Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of Germany prefer. Polls show Bush is overwhelmingly unpopular in those countries. And neither man has made a secret of his contempt for the cowboy from Texas.

How about Bush? He gets foreign support, too. But big difference.

Russia's Vladimir Putin, for one, thinks Bush will be a bulwark in the global war on terror. Japan's ruling party, the LDP, also backs the president; Kerry's stance on North Korea terrifies the LDP.

Among Israelis, Bush is wildly popular. Kuwaitis see him as president of the world, not just the U.S. And don't forget the 30 nations in the Coalition of the Willing in Iraq.

Yes, we'll admit to skepticism when Kerry first touted his foreign support. But no more. Many "leaders" indeed support him. It's just that most of them seem to be nondemocrats and anti-U.S. cranks.

We go back to an old saying: You'll be known by the friends you make and the company you keep. If so, Kerry's in big trouble. And if he wins, so are we.

[itai195]

Originally posted by vmarks:
Just Thursday, Palestinian Authority leader and sometime terrorist Yasser Arafat endorsed Kerry. Why? Kerry did once call him a "statesman." And, as his foreign minister noted, under Kerry "several staff members during Clinton's administration would return."

That quote is from a book Kerry wrote in 1997, before the intifada. And Clinton officials actually tried to make peace, fancy that! I recall a lot of Israeli support for that, at least amongst the company I keep.

Russia's Vladimir Putin, for one, thinks Bush will be a bulwark in the global war on terror.

[...]

Many "leaders" indeed support him [Kerry]. It's just that most of them seem to be nondemocrats and anti-U.S. cranks.

What's that? Pot, I think I hear kettle calling.

[warmspit]

LOL! you (whoever said it) thinks Putin is check in the plus column for endorising Bush? Have you been following Putin's riegn of terror over there? the complete disembowelling of opposition through nefarious means? You think that's an appropriate endorsement?

well, actually you're right....Putin is doing right now what Bush wants to do...complete facsism.

[aberdeenwriter]

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
It's probably because Bush does not recognize Arafat as a leader.

I don't either...