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Jan 28, 2005, 10:47 AM
 
A new study shows that Germany is very bad in environmentalism:

http://www.yale.edu/esi/ESI2005_Main_Report.pdf#page=10

And this despite the fact that Germany has a social-democratic/ecological government.



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Jan 28, 2005, 04:00 PM
 
Wow Canada is right up there!

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Jan 28, 2005, 04:13 PM
 
Canada is only 55 million in a country the size of America also.
But it's still very impressive.
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Jan 28, 2005, 04:29 PM
 
Originally posted by bubblewrap:
Canada is only 55 million in a country the size of America also.
Canada's population: 32,507,874 (July 2004 est.)
     
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Jan 28, 2005, 04:37 PM
 
This is not a population issue. If you look at the map you will see that this is latitude issue. Countries close to the equator are bad in environmentalism. Why is that? And why is Germany so bad despite its ecological government? Even Albania is better. That's unthinkable!

Taiwan is the second last country. If we buy cheap stuff from them (like iBooks and iMacs) are we buying them at the cost of the environment? Probably so.
     
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Jan 28, 2005, 05:39 PM
 
Originally posted by f1000:
Canada's population: 32,507,874 (July 2004 est.)
Australia - number 13.
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Jan 28, 2005, 05:55 PM
 
You have to put that map into context. Large, sparsely populated countries with high biodiversity (like Brazil) are going to be more "sustainable" than Germany (which is very densely populated), even though their industries aren't up to the same "ecological" standards.

Conversely, arid countries are going to fare worse, not having swathes of forests, etc. to offset the population/industrial byproducts.

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Jan 28, 2005, 06:18 PM
 
Originally posted by f1000:
Canada's population: 32,507,874 (July 2004 est.)
I was figuring +20 million after Nov 2...
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Jan 30, 2005, 11:26 PM
 
Germany is not so bad after all if you consider the fact that they had to pick up after communism in the East which destroyed the environment, there were places where entire forest were burned down by the poor quality of the air and water. They cannot accomplished miracles but Europe is very good when it comes to the environment because the governements actually cares. Like in the U.K. they cleaned up their act in London and you can actually see the sky now.
     
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Jan 31, 2005, 11:59 AM
 
Originally posted by bubblewrap:
I was figuring +20 million after Nov 2...
That was funny

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Jan 31, 2005, 12:49 PM
 
Originally posted by bubblewrap:
I was figuring +20 million after Nov 2...
We're still waiting...

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Jan 31, 2005, 08:55 PM
 
Originally posted by MacNStein:
We're still waiting...
And waiting....
     
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Feb 1, 2005, 12:39 AM
 
Originally posted by bubblewrap:
I was figuring +20 million after Nov 2...
Once again, hilarious.
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Feb 1, 2005, 05:28 AM
 
Something is bogus about this study.

You would think that Alaska would have a similar rating as Canada, but no, it has the same as the rest of the US.

It is almost political. I don't care what the policy of the rest of the US is, I believe that Alaska's enviornment is not much different than Canada.
     
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Feb 1, 2005, 11:06 AM
 
Originally posted by bubblewrap:
I was figuring +20 million after Nov 2...
Still waiting...
     
   
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