[mojo2]

How Can That Be???

California's New Orleans
By Melana Zyla Vickers
 Published 
 09/09/2005 

Quick, name an American city of 450,000 where the majority of the population is non-white, where a quarter of the population lives in poverty, and where some of the city streets are, even on a dry day, below sea level. New Orleans, of course.

But also Long Beach, California.
 
Parts of the city in southern Los Angeles county stand an average three feet below sea level, compared to eight feet for New Orleans. Yet despite all the talk from the political left that the Bush administration has effectively drowned New Orleans residents, that same political left is working assiduously to leave Long Beach residents exposed.
 
Every time the storm swells and high tides of an El Nino flood the city of Long Beach, the only barriers protecting its poor Blacks, Hispanics, Cambodians and others from drowning are berms and sea walls. Yet across Los Angeles county, well-funded, white environmentalists and politicians who prefer pristine beach views uber alles do battle against such walls. They argue, as one veteran of the "Surfrider Foundation" does, that "beaches, surfing and the coastal lifestyle are things that people really care strongly about," and that the solution is government eviction from the coast, known as "managed retreat," and "putting as much of the coast lands in public trust as we can." Sea walls, in this way of thinking, are an absolute no-no. Besides, as SurfShot Magazine puts it, "seawalls are ugly." Pro-beach, anti-wall environmentalists are regular allies of Sens. Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein, both of whom are sharp critics of the Bush administration's handling of Hurricane Katrina.
 
Beaches are lovely and necessary, there's no dispute there. And, looked at harshly, Long Beach's very existence is aided and abetted by government, which constructed berms and walls around it in the first place. Indeed, a free-market extremist might argue that the solution in Long Beach, as in New Orleans and, well, all of Bangladesh, might be to let the population centers drown when they drown.
 
But in the meantime, people live there. Indeed, 80 per cent of California's 34 million residents live within 30 miles of the systematically eroding coast. "Managed retreat" in favor of nature and beaches would represent the biggest government expulsion of humanity of all time, and it would represent government intervention just as surely as sea walls do.
 
A technological solution seems far superior and more realistic. Consider the city of Rotterdam and surrounding, low-lying parts of the Netherlands. The Dutch have protected them with a series of walls, dams and sluices that have taken 50 years to build that cost some $5 billion, and that are designed to withstand a 10,000-year flood.
 
It'll be a long time before the extent of damage to New Orleans is clearly understood. But one thing is certain: There's a grave need to protect parts of Long Beach and other low-lying cities, and protecting people is of greater, near-term importance than protecting the view.

http://www.techcentralstation.com/090905E.html

Hey, hows about a DOUBLE WHAMMY?

A tsunami is triggered by a seismic disturbance in Asia and a major seismic disturbance that everyone knows WILL hit California occurs at the same time.

"The Big One" hits at the same time as the "Big Splash?"

Double the server size boys cuz there's gonna be a LOT of posting goin on!

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by mojo2

How Can That Be???





http://www.techcentralstation.com/090905E.html

Hey, hows about a DOUBLE WHAMMY?

A tsunami is triggered by a seismic disturbance in Asia and a major seismic disturbance that everyone knows WILL hit California occurs at the same time.

"The Big One" hits at the same time as the "Big Splash?"

Double the server size boys cuz there's gonna be a LOT of posting goin on!

Ooh, I hope not. My sister lives in Orange County. Still, this has been predicted along with New Orleans.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by ebuddy

Ooh, I hope not. My sister lives in Orange County. Still, this has been predicted along with New Orleans.

As I had known previously but mentioned in this post yesterday.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...e=12&pp=50

This was the first game for that team. The mayor and governor have 'no-cut' contracts and the FEMA guy, Mike Brown was benched.

Before 9/11 Dr. Lucy Jones, a seismologist with the USGS met with FEMA just before 9/11 to discuss the most likely catastrophe that might strike the USA.

Topping the list was a terrorist attack on NYC. Moving to the South, a giant hurricane wiping out either Miami or NOLA with thousands dead. And out west a major earthquake on the San Andreas Fault in California, also with massive loss of life.

Now that two of these have come to pass, Jones said, "we're waiting for that 3rd shoe to drop now...our earthquake is just as predictable as the hurricane."

The BIG ONE as most Californians call the next killer quake will cause a disruption to transportation, the California Aqueduct, major rail service and hiways and power transmission facilities. It will cause the same level of disruption to California's infrastructure as Katrina caused the Delta.

The lesson?

BE PERSONALLY PREPARED TO LAST FOR 7 OR MORE DAYS WITHOUT HELP.

AND...

And ask your local officials the hard questions about their plans to deal with emergencies.

(Much of this info was culled from a NBC News TODAY Show report by George Lewis, "The Next Disaster Zone.")

Yes, I should move also, but living in California is heaven. I guess your sister is rooted, like most of us are, eh? Well there was a song from the 60's or early 70's that comes to mind...

DAY AFTER DAY
Shango


Day after day, more people come to L..A..
Don’t you tell anybody, the whole place’s slipping away
Where can we go, when there’s no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Do you know the swim, you better learn quick Jim
Those who don’t know the swim, better sing the hymn
Do the happy (?????)
What can you do when the bush is (?????)

Day after day, more people come to L..A.
Don’t you tell anybody, the whole place’s shaking away
Where can we go, when there’s no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Where can we go, when there’s no San Diego
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Do you know the swim, you better learn quick Jim
Those who don’t know the swim, better sing the hymn

Do the happy (?????)
Oh, what can you do when the bush is (?????)

Day after day, more people come to L.A.
Don’t you tell anybody, the whole place’s shaking away
Where can we go, when there’s no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

[mojo2]

This info was posted in the lounge a few days ago but I will post them here for those who don't get out (of the P/L) much.

http://www.drturi.com/home.php

IMPORTANT ANNOUCEMENT FOR SEPTEMBER 16/17/18 2005 - The same negative energy that produced all major hurricanes, earthquakes tornadoes and tsunamis is hovering above the earth and will take more lives. I am giving you the concentrated dates of its destructive power for the month of September and each and every month as of today. I have proven to be right many times over and I wish the NWS and/or NASA would listen and learn from my methodology. I am expecting more trouble with water damages on these days with all affairs ruled by Neptune "Poseidon, the Lord of the Seas". The worse case scenario is another tsunami following a large earthquake. Stay clear from the ocean on these days and PLEASE pass on my predictions to everyone around you! If you know someone in the news or have connection with anyone on television, radio or newspaper media or have some time to invest to help me go to CNN/FOX/ websites and PLEASE Email them this link - SO MY MESSAGE CAN HE HEARD AND SAVE LIVES - Click Here

Be a participant of true knowledge and help me to save lives. Those dates were broadcasted on the George Noory show Coast To Coast on august 29, 2005.

[Y3a]

We all know the quality of thinking the "left" does, so it's not surprising.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by Y3a

We all know the quality of thinking the "left" does, so it's not surprising.

We all know the quality of thinking the "right" does, so it's not surprising.

[BlueSky]

We all know the quality of thinking the <this space for rent, inquire within> does, so it's not surprising.

[BlueSky]

As I type this, I'm sitting near the coast in Long Beach, California.

I just wanted to say that, in case tomorrow I'm sitting underwater in Long Beach, California.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by BlueSky

As I type this, I'm sitting near the coast in Long Beach, California.

I just wanted to say that, in case tomorrow I'm sitting underwater in Long Beach, California.

For the record, I would miss you.

Now, all seriousness aside...

I hear there's a short pier in that neck of the sand upon which you might take a long walk.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Y3a

We all know the quality of thinking the "left" does, so it's not surprising.

Is this provocative comment lacking any real substance or purpose an example of the quality of thinking of the Right?

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by mojo2

I hear there's a short pier in that neck of the sand upon which you might take a long walk.

I tried it once and ended up walking on water. The tourists freaked, lost my sandals, bad scene.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by mojo2

This info was posted in the lounge a few days ago but I will post them here for those who don't get out (of the P/L) much.

http://www.drturi.com/home.php

Is this a common type of source for most of your information? Explains much ...

[besson3c]

So, anybody care to distill those 3 articles down into the main point here? The thing we are supposed to be discussing?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by besson3c

So, anybody care to distill those 3 articles down into the main point here? The thing we are supposed to be discussing?

You mean the distraction from how the people of New Orleans were let down?

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

You mean the distraction from how the people of New Orleans were let down?

Yeah... Mojo has this way of throwing things at us and using big words that try to manipulate us into accepting his viewpoint, while he seems to have great difficulty acknowledging opposing viewpoints, and seems disinterested in discussing them in a genuine way. No offense Mojo, this is just how I characterize your rhetoric. We all have our own rhetoric.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by BlueSky

I tried it once and ended up walking on water. The tourists freaked, lost my sandals, bad scene.

That's a PERFECT example of what I'd miss!

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by besson3c

Yeah... Mojo has this way of throwing things at us and using big words that try to manipulate us into accepting his viewpoint, while he seems to have great difficulty acknowledging opposing viewpoints, and seems disinterested in discussing them in a genuine way. No offense Mojo, this is just how I characterize your rhetoric. We all have our own rhetoric.

The funny thing is I have LESS of a problem with THIS opinion than most of your other stuff. I don't spend much time thinking about any 'image' stuff. I'll leave that to you all. If it seems wrong, I'll speak up. Otherwise, it's all a big yawn to me, subjectwise.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

You mean the distraction from how the people of New Orleans were let down?

If it were meant as a distraction wouldn't I have, more likely, posted in a thread where the people of New Orleans were being discussed?

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by besson3c

So, anybody care to distill those 3 articles down into the main point here? The thing we are supposed to be discussing?

Original post - Future warning of natural disaster similar to NOLA. Political wake-up call.

Article #2 - Background information re: current events. Future warning of natural disaster.

Article #3 - Future warning of natural disaster. Entertainment. Experiment.

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING!

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