[michaeljohn63]

Did anyone see Ted Turner on David Letterman last night? Okay, he's kind of weird. He sort of closes his eyes when talking about anything deep. He saws "AWWW" alot. But, he could be just the thing: a populist.

I was just talking to my son the other day about why Bush is president when he is so inept? The problem may be that the country likes his dumbness because they can relate to it. Then there's the religion, the racism, the "I got my stuff" attitude, the "I am a tough guy and so is he" stuff. Okay, that's probably enough to vault him over the wooden stick figures that were Al Gore and John Kerry. Well, what if someone who is competent, thoughtful, informed and well-versed in both domestic and foreign policy ran. Oh wait. That describes both Al Gore and John Kerry, both of whom also volunteered for actual military service. So, again, why did the moron win? Maybe, just maybe, the U.S. population will elect a guy who's stupid and incompetent and lazy and a chicken sh!t with a "tough guy" sneer (both Bush and Cheney) because he's seems more human than the other guy. On the other hand, take a guy like Bush and put him up against someone who is not only competent, successful, a tough negotiator, and then add to that, he actually earned his success, speaks his mind, and is likeable, and is not a wooden stick figure.

What about Ted Turner, the populist presidential candidate. I bet if this guy had been president, 9/11 would never have happened (he actually travels to other parts of the world and can name a few world leaders). I bet, if this guy had been president, there would have been troops on the ground in New Orleans by Monday afternoon, there would have been busses ready to pull people out on Sunday before the hurricane, there would have been Army Engineers repairing the dikes by Tuesday.

Can a guy who almost single-handedly built the modern cable industry be incompentent?

The things Ted Turner said to Letterman were thoughtful, informed, catchy, and revealed a guy who has spent a lot of time thinking about what's wrong with our country and our world, and has some pretty good ideas about how to solve some of those problems. More importantly, he got huge applause from the audience after making several of his comments. I wondered if he was going to get a standing ovation. Think about it, huge applause from an audience that came to see a comedy show and heard a guy talk about poverty in the third world, industrialized socioeconomic disparity, and social systems that work.

The country is hungry for a guy they can trust to do the job of president correctly. They might even be willing to consider someone who doesn't have a smarmy, "I've always been rich," "don't mess with me cause I got a very powerful daddy," look.

Watching this idiot and his corrupt and chaotic administration languish (still happening) while people continue to die in Louisiana must remind others than myself of Bush's confusion, his "deer in the headlights," frozen, stupid, chew on his lips look in the elementary school classroom the morning of 9/11. I still think I know what he was thinking about right then: "crap, dad, you NEVER told me this job would be so damn hard, why couldn't Cheney just deal with this stuff, you said he would, I was hoping to take the rest of the day and hang out with my brother." Tell me I am wrong about those thoughts. You KNOW that's what he was thinking about.

Ted Turner for president!

[Randman]

If he can't keep a marriage together with a co-dependent like Jane ...

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Considering that Ol’ Ted is nuttier than a truckload of squirrel ****, it is a wonder the far left hasn’t embraced him as a candidate yet. Hanoi Jane could perhaps be his V.P?

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Randman

If he can't keep a marriage together with a co-dependent like Jane ...

LOL

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by michaeljohn63

Did anyone see Ted Turner on David Letterman last night? Okay, he's kind of weird. He sort of closes his eyes when talking about anything deep. He saws "AWWW" alot. But, he could be just the thing: a populist.

I was just talking to my son the other day about why Bush is president when he is so inept? The problem may be that the country likes his dumbness because they can relate to it. Then there's the religion, the racism, the "I got my stuff" attitude, the "I am a tough guy and so is he" stuff. Okay, that's probably enough to vault him over the wooden stick figures that were Al Gore and John Kerry. Well, what if someone who is competent, thoughtful, informed and well-versed in both domestic and foreign policy ran. Oh wait. That describes both Al Gore and John Kerry, both of whom also volunteered for actual military service. So, again, why did the moron win? Maybe, just maybe, the U.S. population will elect a guy who's stupid and incompetent and lazy and a chicken sh!t with a "tough guy" sneer (both Bush and Cheney) because he's seems more human than the other guy. On the other hand, take a guy like Bush and put him up against someone who is not only competent, successful, a tough negotiator, and then add to that, he actually earned his success, speaks his mind, and is likeable, and is not a wooden stick figure.

What about Ted Turner, the populist presidential candidate. I bet if this guy had been president, 9/11 would never have happened (he actually travels to other parts of the world and can name a few world leaders). I bet, if this guy had been president, there would have been troops on the ground in New Orleans by Monday afternoon, there would have been busses ready to pull people out on Sunday before the hurricane, there would have been Army Engineers repairing the dikes by Tuesday.

Can a guy who almost single-handedly built the modern cable industry be incompentent?

The things Ted Turner said to Letterman were thoughtful, informed, catchy, and revealed a guy who has spent a lot of time thinking about what's wrong with our country and our world, and has some pretty good ideas about how to solve some of those problems. More importantly, he got huge applause from the audience after making several of his comments. I wondered if he was going to get a standing ovation. Think about it, huge applause from an audience that came to see a comedy show and heard a guy talk about poverty in the third world, industrialized socioeconomic disparity, and social systems that work.

The country is hungry for a guy they can trust to do the job of president correctly. They might even be willing to consider someone who doesn't have a smarmy, "I've always been rich," "don't mess with me cause I got a very powerful daddy," look.

Watching this idiot and his corrupt and chaotic administration languish (still happening) while people continue to die in Louisiana must remind others than myself of Bush's confusion, his "deer in the headlights," frozen, stupid, chew on his lips look in the elementary school classroom the morning of 9/11. I still think I know what he was thinking about right then: "crap, dad, you NEVER told me this job would be so damn hard, why couldn't Cheney just deal with this stuff, you said he would, I was hoping to take the rest of the day and hang out with my brother." Tell me I am wrong about those thoughts. You KNOW that's what he was thinking about.

Ted Turner for president!

michaeljohn63, I've not noticed your posts here in the P/L much til now. Welcome.

Recognizing your political philosophy, I doubt we'll ever have the opportunity to be this cordial again, or, until you become aware of the debt you owe to George W. Bush and the importance of his Administration.

I will refrain from further posts in this thread until others have had a chance to weigh in.

BTW, Ted could never get elected. Accomplished man. Great guy. Captained the America's Cup winner. INVENTED the industry of Cable TV as we know it today (AS WE KNOW IT TODAY), humanitarian. Self made man. Give him his due.

The closest he'll ever get to sleeping in the White House is if someone else, as POTUS, invites him for a sleepover.

Here's an excerpt from a New Yorker interview Ted did with Ken Auletta around the time of the March 2003 invasion of Iraq:

Do you believe Saddam Hussein when he says he has no weapons of mass destruction?
I don't really know. I don't think he has as many as France or Pakistan or India or Israel or Britain, or certainly not us or Russia. We've got the most. I mean, if we want disarmament, why don't we offer to disarm? That's what we signed in the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, thirty-five years ago—just to put everything in real perspective. Who are we to say that we can have thousands of nuclear weapons and other people can't? India can't, Pakistan can't. Why? Don't we believe that all men are created equal? I mean, if we got 'em, I think they have a right to have 'em.

So North Korea has a right to break its treaty and have them?
No question about it. They have the right to. Doesn't Russia have the right to have them?

Teasing for the upcoming segment, Gibson said "Has Ted finally gone 'round the bend? Is it a case of sour grapes gone ultra-sour? What's up with the mouth of the south?" For the segment, a dialog with Schonfeld, the major banner was "Ted's Tirade". The following allegations were printed on the bottom third during the interview: June 2002 Turner calls Israeli gov't 'terrorists'; Turner once called Catholic CNN workers 'Jesus freaks'; ...once called Christianity a 'religion for losers'; ...said ten commandments shouldn't prohibit adultery; 1999 Turner urged pope to get with it; Turner once said Italians enjoy committing crimes; ...once said Haitians breed like cats; 1984 said US border needed Iron Curtain. Meanwhile Reese said such things as "it's just another Ted tirade, another episode in the Turner follies". Gibson wondered if he is just upset the CNN is not #1 anymore - is he just angry and jealous?

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/01/27/...ted_turner.php

michaeljohn63, get used to having your point of view criticized here.

Game on.

[spauldingg]

...until you become aware of the debt you owe to George W. Bush and the importance of his Administration...

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by spauldingg

...until you become aware of the debt you owe to George W. Bush and the importance of his Administration...

Yeah.

9/11 Attacks. Necessary WoT. Increased $$ for homeland security. Unexpected freak hurricane response.

If it will make you happy though, why not increase the amount of taxes YOU pay to what you think the tax rates we all SHOULD pay to offset the deficit.

Then you'd have, at least, the MORAL high ground in this argument.

[spauldingg]

"freak hurricane response" is right!

And If I paid as much money in taxes before the fact as I donated to the Red Cross and others after the fact in order to avoid/minimize this catastrophe and the accompanying death and destruction, I'd be one happy, happy citizen.