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Robert F Kennedy speaks at Sierra Summit
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Sep 19, 2005, 01:54 AM
 
It's a pretty long speech, but I thought it was pretty good

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Sep 19, 2005, 06:37 PM
 
hm. ANOTHER windbag Kennedy…

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"Altruism is killing America. We who want to save America must repudiate this killer, root and branch. We must understand and explain to others that the acceptance of altruism necessitates the violation of individual rights... and that the arguments for altruism are baseless..."
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 10:20 PM
 
Robert has had a long standing love of nature and an excellent record on environmental issues. He knows of which he speaks.
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Sep 19, 2005, 10:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by smacintush
hm. ANOTHER windbag Kennedy…

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If politics makes you sleepy, you may be in the wrong forum.

It's a good speech until the end. Lots of facts, and lots of common sense putting it together.

I have three sons who have asthma. One out of every four black children in America’s cities now has asthma. We know that asthma attacks are triggered primary by bad air, by ozone and particulates and we know that the principle source of those materials in our atmosphere are 1,100 coal burning power plants that are burning coal illegally. It’s been illegal for 17 years. President Clinton’s administration was prosecuting the worst 75 of those plants but that’s an industry that donated $48 million to this president during the 2000 cycle and have given $58 million since.

One of the first things that Bush did when he came into office was to order the Justice Department and EPA to drop all those lawsuits. The top three enforcers at EPA, Sylvia Lowrance, Bruce Buckheit, Eric Schaeffer, all resigned their jobs in protest. These weren’t Democrats, these were people who had served through the Reagan and Bush administrations, the earlier Bush administration.

A top Justice Department official said that this had never happened in American history before where a presidential candidate accepts money, contributions from criminals under indictment or targeted for indictment and then orders those indictments and investigations dropped when he achieves office.

Immediately after dropping those lawsuits, the White House went and abolished the New Source Rule which was the heart and soul, the central provision of the Clean Air Act. That rule is the rule that required those plants to clean up 17 years ago and it’s the fundamental compromise that allowed the passage of the Clean Air Act.

If you go to EPA’s website today, you will see that that decision alone, that single decision, this is EPA’s website, kills 18,000 Americans every single year. Six times the number of people that were killed by the World Trade Center attack. This should be on the front page of every newspaper in this country every single day and yet you’re not reading about it in the American press.
Perhaps you were also asleep when Brown was put in charge of FEMA.

But most insidiously, they have put polluters in charge of virtually all the agencies that are supposed to protect Americans from pollution.

President Bush appointed as head of the Forest Service a timber industry lobbyist, Mark Rey, probably the most rapacious in history. He put in charge of public lands a mining industry lobbyist, Steven Griles, who believes that public lands are unconstitutional. He put in charge of the air division of the EPA, Jeffrey Holmstead, a utility lobbyist who has represented nothing but the worst air polluters in America. As head of Superfund, a woman whose last job was teaching corporate polluters how to evade Superfund. The second in command of EPA is a Monsanto lobbyist.

The New York Times reported a couple of weeks ago we all read that as second in command of CEQ which is in the White House directly advising the president of environmental policy, he put a lobbyist of the American Petroleum Institute whose only job was to read all of the science from all the different federal agencies to make sure they didn’t say anything critical, to excise any critical statements about the oil industry.
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 10:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by tie
If politics makes you sleepy, you may be in the wrong forum.

It's a good speech until the end. Lots of facts, and lots of common sense putting it together.



Perhaps you were also asleep when Brown was put in charge of FEMA.
But Clinton had sex with other women and Kerry wasn't a good candidate either!

(There, now that I got those counter points out of the way we can find other ones)
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Sep 20, 2005, 01:09 AM
 
A hypocrite politician who lives in his Kennedy mansions, rides around in private jets and limos bitching about SUVs and how everyone else isn’t doing their part to saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave the planet.

Yup. A typical Kennedy.

What’s next? Ted Kennedy berating drunk drivers?
     
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Sep 20, 2005, 11:54 AM
 
Hm, at least he can speak and muster an argument. Unlike dear Bush, and apparently unlike the conservatives in this forum.

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Sep 20, 2005, 07:50 PM
 
Unless I'm mistaken, shouldn't 'Jr.' be appended to this man's name?

His FATHER was assassinated in a Los Angeles hotel after celebrating his victory in the California Democratic Presidential primary, June 5, 1968.

His last public words were, "Now it's on to Chicago, and let's win there."
     
   
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