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The Essense of Islam: Born to Rule the World?
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Sep 30, 2005, 11:05 AM
 
Wow! VW was right when he said when I was talking about Islam I didn't know what I was talking about! I thought it was a peaceful religion.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles...on40214%20.htm

The Essence of Islam

Now let's move to the essence of Islam. Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world.

Let's look, then, at the difference between these three religions. Judaism speaks about national salvation - namely that at the end of the story, when the world becomes a better place, Israel will be in its own land, ruled by its own king and serving God. Christianity speaks about the idea that every single person in the world can be saved from his sings, while Islam speaks about ruling the world. I can quote here in Arabic, but there is no point in quoting Arabic, so let me quote a verse in English. "Allah sent Mohammed with the true religion so that it should rule over all the religions."

The idea, then, is not that the whole world would become a Moslem world at this time, but that the whole world would be subdued under the rule of Islam.

When the Islamic empire was established in 634 AD, within seven years - 640 - the core of the empire was created. The rules that were taken from the Koran and from the tradition that was ascribed to the prophet Mohammed, were translated into a real legal system. Jews and Christians could live under Islam provided they paid poll tax and accepted Islamic superiority. Of course, they had to be humiliated. And Jews and Christians living under Islam are humiliated to this very day.
Islamic Rule and Jihad

What happens if Jews and Christians don't want to live under the rules of Islam? Then Islam has to fight them and this fighting is called Jihad. Jihad means war against those people who don't want to accept the Islamic superior rule. That's jihad. They may be Jews; they may be Christians; they may be Polytheists. But since we don't have too many Polytheists left, at least not in the Middle East - their war is against the Jews and Christians.

A few days ago, I received a pamphlet that was distributed in the world by bin Laden. He calls for jihad against America as the leader of the Christian world, not because America is the supporter of Israel, but because Americans are desecrating Arabia with their filthy feet. There are Americans in Arabia were no Christians should be. In this pamphlet there is not a single word about Israel. Only that Americans are desecrating the home of the prophet.
Two Houses

The Koran sees the world as divided into two - one part which has come under Islamic rule and one part which is supposed to come under Islamic rule in the future. There is a division of the world which is very clear. Every single person who starts studying Islam knows it. The world is described as Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) - that's the place where Islam rules - and the other part which is called Dar al-Harb - the house of war. Not the "house of non-Muslims," but the "house of war." It is this house of war which as to be, at the end of time, conquered. The world will continue to be in the house of war until it comes under Islamic rule. This is the norm. Why? Because Allah says it's so in the Koran. God has sent Mohammed with the true religion in order that the truth will overcome all other religions.
Islam and Territory

This civilization created one very important, fundamental rule about territory. Any territory that comes under Islamic rule cannot be de-Islamized. Even if at one time or another, the [non-Moslem] enemy takes over the territory that was under Islamic rule, it is considered to be perpetually Islamic.

This is why whenever you hear about the Arab/Israeli conflict, you hear - territory, territory, territory. There are other aspects to the conflict, but territory is highly important.

The Christian civilization has not only been seen as a religious opponent, but as a dam stopping Islam from achieving its final goal for which it was created.

Islam was created to be the army of God, the army of Allah. Every single Moslem is a soldier in this army. Every single Moslem that dies in fighting for the spread of Islam is a shaheed (martyr) no matter how he dies, because - and this is very important - this is an eternal word between the two civilizations. It's not a war that stops. This was is there because it was created by Allah. Islam must be the ruler. This is a war that will not end.
Islam and Peace

Peace in Islam can exist only within the Islamic world; peace can only be between Moslem and Moslem.

With the non-Moslem world or non-Moslem opponents, there can be only one solution - a cease fire until Moslems can gain more power. It is an eternal war until the end of days. Peace can only come if the Islamic side wins. The two civilizations can only have periods of cease-fires. And this idea of cease-fire is based on a very important historical precedent, which, incidentally, Yasser Arafat referred to when he spoke in Johannesburg after he signed the Oslo agreement with Israel.

Let me remind you that the document speaks of peace - you wouldn't believe that you are reading! You would think that you were reading some science fiction piece. I mean when you read it, you can't believe that this was signed by Israelis who are actually acquainted with Islamic policies and civilization.

A few weeks after the Oslo agreement was signed, Arafat went to Johannesburg, and in a mosque there he made a speech in which he apologized, saying, "Do you think I signed something with the Jews which is contrary to the rules of Islam?" (I have obtained a copy of Arafat's recorded speech so I heard it from his own mouth.) Arafat continued, "That's not so. I'm doing exactly what the prophet Mohammed did."

Whatever the prophet is supposed have done becomes a precedent. What Arafat was saying was, "Remember the story of Hodaybiya." The prophet had made an agreement there with the tribe of Kuraish for 10 years. But then he trained 10,000 soldiers and within two years marched on their city of Mecca. He, of course, found some kind of pretext.

Thus, in Islamic jurisdiction, it became a legal precedent which states that you are only allowed to make peace for a maximum of 10 years. Secondly, at the first instance that you are able, you must renew the jihad [thus breaking the "peace" agreement].

In Israel, it has taken over 50 years in this country for our people to understand that they cannot speak about [permanent] peace with Moslems. It will take another 50 years for the western world to understand that they have got a state of war with the Islamic civilization that is virile and strong. This should be understood: When we talk about war and peace, we are not talking in Belgium, French, English, or German terms. We are talking about war and peace in Islamic terms.
Cease-fire as a Tactical Choice

What makes Islam accept cease-fire? Only one thing - when the enemy is too strong. It is a tactical choice.

Sometimes, he may have to agree to a cease-fire in the most humiliating conditions. It's allowed because Mohammed accepted a cease-fire under humiliating conditions. That's what Arafat said to them in Johannesburg. When western policy makers hear these things, they answer, "What are you talking about? You are in the Middle Ages. You don't understand the mechanisms of politics."

Which mechanisms of politics? There are no mechanisms of politics where power is. And I want to tell you one thing - we haven't seen the end of it, because the minute a radical Moslem power has atomic, chemical or biological weapons, they will use it. I have no doubt about that.

Now, since we face war and we know that we cannot get more than an impermanent cease-fire, one has to ask himself what is the major component of an Israeli/Arab cease-fire. It is that the Islamic side is weak and your side is strong. The relations between Israel and the Arab world in the last 50 years since the establishment of our State has been based only on this idea, the deterrent power.

Wherever You Have Islam, You Will Have War

The reason that we have what we have in Yugoslavia and other places is because Islam succeeded into entering these countries. Wherever you have Islam, you will have war. It grows out of the attitude of Islamic civilization.

What are the poor people in the Philippines being killed for? What's happening between Pakistan and India?
Islamic Infiltration

Furthermore, there is another fact that must be remembered. The Islamic world has not only the attitude of open war, but there's also war by infiltration.

One of the things which the western world is not paying enough attention to is the tremendous growth of Islamic power in the western world. What happened in America and the Twin Towers is not something that came from the outside. And if America doesn't wake up, one day the Americans will find themselves in a chemical war and most likely in an atomic war - inside the U.S.

End of Days

It is highly important to understand how a civilization sees the end of days. In Christianity and in Judaism, we know exactly what is the vision of the end of days.

In Judaism, it is going to be as in Isaiah - peace between nations, not just one nation, but between all nations. People will not have any more need for weapons and nature will be changed - a beautiful end of days and the kingdom of God on earth.

Christianity goes as far as Revelation to see a day that Satan himself is obliterated. There are no more powers of evil. That's the vision.

I'm speaking now as a historian. I try to understand how Islam sees the end of days. In the end of days, Islam sees a world that is totally Moslem, completely Moslem under the rule of Islam. Complete and final victory.

Christians will not exist, because according to many Islamic traditions, the Moslems who are in hell will have to be replaced by somebody and they'll be replaced by the Christians.

The Jews will no longer exist, because before the coming of the end of days, there is going to be a war against the Jews where all Jews should be killed. I'm quoting now from the heart of Islamic tradition, from the books that are read by every child in school. They Jews will all be killed. They'll be running away and they'll be hiding behind trees and rocks, and on that day Allah will give mouths to the rocks and trees and they will say, "Oh Moslem come here, there is a Jew behind me, kill him." Without this, the end of days cannot come. This is a fundamental of Islam.
Is There a Possibility to End This Dance of War?

The question which we in Israel are asking ourselves is what will happen to our country? Is there a possibility to end this dance of war?

The answer is, "No. Not in the foreseeable future." What we can do is reach a situation where for a few years we may have relative quiet.

But for Islam, the establishment of the state of Israel was a reverse of Islamic history. First, Islamic territory was taken away from Islam by Jews. You know by now that this can never be accepted, not even one meter. So everyone who thinks Tel Aviv is safe is making a grave mistake. Territory, which at one time was dominated by Islamic rule, now has become non-Moslem. Non-Moslems are independent of Islamic rule; Jews have created their own independent state. It is anathema.

And (this is the worse) Israel, a non-Moslem state, is ruling over Moslems. It is unthinkable that non-Moslems should rule over Moslems.

I believe that Western civilization should hold together and support each other. Whether this will happen or not, I don't know. Israel finds itself on the front lines of this war. It needs the help of its sister civilization. It needs the help of America and Europe. It needs the help of the Christian world. One thing I am sure about, this help can be given by individual Christians who see this as the road to salvation.

Professor Moshe Sharon teaches Islamic History at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem. This article appeared on the Betar UK website (http://www.betar.co.il) December 24, 2003.
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Sep 30, 2005, 11:15 AM
 
Originally Posted by mojo2
Wow! VW was right when he said when I was talking about Islam I didn't know what I was talking about!
Welcome to reality.

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Sep 30, 2005, 11:18 AM
 
What's essense? Is that like esp?

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Sep 30, 2005, 11:26 AM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
What's essense?
It's the little brother of nonsense.
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By George, you've convinced me.
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Sep 30, 2005, 12:36 PM
 
I started reading but when I came to this part I just couldn't go on.
Christianity speaks about the idea that every single person in the world can be saved from his sings, while Islam speaks about ruling the world.

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Sep 30, 2005, 12:47 PM
 
Christianity, Islam and Judaism all have the same God. He's not peaceful in any of them.

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Sep 30, 2005, 12:48 PM
 
But they have NOT ruled well. They have treated 1/2 the population as property (the women) and have let themselves become a third world entity.
     
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Sep 30, 2005, 01:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
Christianity, Islam and Judaism all have the same God.
B.S.
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Sep 30, 2005, 01:01 PM
 
Don't forget that Islam was primarily spread with the sword...all religions succumb to this at one point in their history, but Islam has made a practice of it by defining this term as central to Islam. This aspect of Islam is nothing but manipulation, as followers are instructed that it is ok to kill in the name of Allah.... kinda like the 72 virgin promise. Stupid.
     
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Sep 30, 2005, 01:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
B.S.
Hardly. Do you know anything about them?

Heck, in Islam, Jesus is even revered as the No. 2 prophet behind Mohd. Even the Jews can't match that.

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Originally Posted by Doofy
B.S.
No, it's not. They all share the same root. Or do you think it's entirely coincidental that they all come from the same region?
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Originally Posted by Randman
Hardly. Do you know anything about them?

Heck, in Islam, Jesus is even revered as the No. 2 prophet behind Mohd. Even the Jews can't match that.
How many times do we have to go through this? It's logically impossible for them to be the same god.

One says the only way to Him is through Jesus (the Son of God).
The other says the way to him is through good deeds and keeping the law (i.e. isn't through Jesus (not the Son of God)).

It's either/or. Can't be both.
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Sep 30, 2005, 01:13 PM
 
The irony is Islam and Christianity have so much in common. But I guess that's the conflict, eh?

Maybe Buddha was right. He is smiling at least.

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Or do you think it's entirely coincidental that they all come from the same region?
No, I think it's the perfect deception.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
How many times do we have to go through this? It's logically impossible for them to be the same god.

One says the only way to Him is through Jesus (the Son of God).
The other says the way to him is through good deeds and keeping the law (i.e. isn't through Jesus (not the Son of God)).

It's either/or. Can't be both.
So, the religions differ on how to get to Him. But it is the same Him, like it or not.


Jews worship God to the end of the "old Testament". Christians follow through Revelations and Muslims take it a little further (but not as left-field as the LDS).

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And if they differ, how can you explain Islam recognizing Jesus as a prophet?

For the record: I'm Catholic, but it just takes a little step back from religious fervor to see that the religions are indeed close. Besides, no matter one's faith (or lack of it), there should never be religious intolerance or cruelty to others.

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Originally Posted by Randman
The irony is Islam and Christianity have so much in common.
That's because islam is a direct copy of Christianity but without the Christ part.

Let's suppose that Christianity is correct and that (1) Christ is the only way to God and (2) the devil is constantly trying to remove people from that way.

Pretty good tactic on the part of the copier, no? Make it the same but leave the essential detail out.
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Also, all three religions take myths from more ancient religions such as those in Sumer and Babylonia and make them their own. Even the Greek demi-god Dionysus has similar traits with Jesus.

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Originally Posted by Doofy
That's because islam is a direct copy of Christianity but without the Christ part.

Let's suppose that Christianity is correct and that (1) Christ is the only way to God and (2) the devil is constantly trying to remove people from that way.

Pretty good tactic on the part of the copier, no? Make it the same but leave the essential detail out.
Fair enough. But to make that argument stick, are you willing to consider the view that Christianity is incorrect?

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Originally Posted by Doofy
No, I think it's the perfect deception.
Yes, of course. The three religions conspired and chose to meet at a tiny city now known as Jerusalem. They were merely conspiring to deceive us now.

To deny that they share common roots is deception – self-deception.
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And if they differ, how can you explain Islam recognizing Jesus as a prophet?
See above. Lessen (or remove) the importance of the key figure.
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Yes, of course. The three religions conspired and chose to meet at a tiny city now known as Jerusalem. They were merely conspiring to deceive us now.
No, just the youngest of the three.

Originally Posted by OreoCookie
To deny that they share common roots is deception – self-deception.
They share the same roots because one of them is purposefully a copy of the others. Like Windows is a copy of Mac OS - it's nearly the same, but the most important bits are left out.
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Originally Posted by Randman
Fair enough. But to make that argument stick, are you willing to consider the view that Christianity is incorrect?
No. I know Christianity to be the correct way.
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Doofy, your problem is that you are unwilling to consider anything other than your view. Everything you say is based on the assumption that Christianity is the only religion out there.

That's as closed-minded a view as any other religious extremists, regardless of which version of God they profess faith to.

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Originally Posted by Doofy
They share the same roots because one of them is purposefully a copy of the others. Like Windows is a copy of Mac OS - it's nearly the same, but the most important bits are left out.
     
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Originally Posted by Randman
Doofy, your problem is that you are unwilling to consider anything other than your view. Everything you say is based on the assumption that Christianity is the only religion out there.
That's because before I became Christian I spent 15-odd years analysing almost every religion out there. You make the common mistake in assuming that I haven't already considered and disregarded the others. IMO, Christianity is the correct religion (oh, and Buddhism is a reasonable philosophy, occultism is a powerful science. Been there, done that, acquired t-shirt).
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Wouldn't it be nice if people spent so much time and effort and energy trying to minimize differences between people rather than magnifying them in order to reassure themselves of making the "right" choice.

Nah. That's something Jesus would have done.

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It's truly lonely being an atheist conservative…
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Originally Posted by Randman
Wouldn't it be nice if people spent so much time and effort and energy trying to minimize differences between people rather than magnifying them in order to reassure themselves of making the "right" choice.

That's something Jesus would have done.
No it isn't. Go read your Bible.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
They share the same roots because one of them is purposefully a copy of the others. Like Windows is a copy of Mac OS - it's nearly the same, but the most important bits are left out.
Yes, but Christianity is very popular these days anyway … 
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It's truly lonely being an atheist conservative…
It's even worse being a vegetarian conservative Christian.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
No it isn't. Go read your Bible.
Yes it is. You make the assumption (and an incorrect one) that I've not read it. I can pretty much quote you from the New Testament and from whichever translation you prefer.

Jesus never said: Accept me THEN be nice to others. And he sure as heck never said: Accept me and only be nice those who share the same viewpoint with you.

Besides, if Christianity is indeed correct, which faith? Catholics? Protestants? Baptists? Mormons?

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Originally Posted by Doofy
It's even worse being a vegetarian conservative Christian.
You're a veg? Well, hell. No wonder it's so tough getting through to you.












ps: Jesus gave people fish to eat.

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Originally Posted by Randman
Yes it is. You make the assumption (and an incorrect one) that I've not read it. I can pretty much quote you from the New Testament and from whichever translation you prefer.

Jesus never said: Accept me THEN be nice to others. And he sure as heck never said: Accept me and only be nice those who share the same viewpoint with you.
He sure didn't go out of his way to be nice to those preaching the wrong message though, did He?

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Besides, if Christianity is indeed correct, which faith? Catholics? Protestants? Baptists? Mormons?
The Pentecostals are the most correct.
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Originally Posted by Randman
You're a veg? Well, hell. No wonder it's so tough getting through to you.



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ps: Jesus gave people fish to eat.
Only because he knew they were a bunch of sinners who weren't strong enough to resist the flesh anyways.
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Only because he knew they were a bunch of sinners who weren't strong enough to resist the flesh anyways.
That's an interesting distortion…
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Originally Posted by smacintush
That's an interesting distortion…
There's precedent for it elsewhere in the Bible.

See:

http://www.jesusveg.com/index2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism#Christianity

(for the record, I was veggie a long time before I was Christian. It's a throwback to the Buddhist and occult experiments)
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Originally Posted by Doofy
There's precedent for it elsewhere in the Bible.

See:

http://www.jesusveg.com/index2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism#Christianity

(for the record, I was veggie a long time before I was Christian. It's a throwback to the Buddhist and occult experiments)
I meant it's a distortion to imply that "God" prefers you to eat meat, and it is. There is just as much precedence for eating meat starting right in Genesis.

It's all in the interpretation I guess…
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Originally Posted by smacintush
I meant it's a distortion to imply that "God" prefers you to eat meat, and it is.
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Didn't quite get that. Rephrase please?

Originally Posted by smacintush
There is just as much precedence for eating meat starting right in Genesis.
It's widely thought that everyone was veggie until after the flood. Now, what went wrong afterwards? Did everyone just give in to their fleshy desires?

(question is valid whether the flood was real or a metaphorical event)

Originally Posted by smacintush
It's all in the interpretation I guess…
I suspect that God doesn't actually care these days as long as you recognise the "2nd Prophet" as the only way you're gonna get past those gates. For me, being veggie is a personal thing.
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I think so. A friend of my brother eats no meat from animals with hair. Chicken and other birds are fine. Pork, beef and the likes aren't. She says it's because of (her interpretation of) the Bible.
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VW: ignorance is bliss isnt it ?

Moving on........
We do beleive in the same 'God', as in all three religions have the same origins. Jewdaism was the first, Christianity branched out, followed by Islam some 6 centuries later.

After living in the ME....i can testify that religious freedom and equality is a joke in that part of the world. Sure people get along, but this struck a chord with me anyway cause i experienced at ground level.

Jews and Christians could live under Islam provided they paid poll tax and accepted Islamic superiority. Of course, they had to be humiliated. And Jews and Christians living under Islam are humiliated to this very day.

I also agree with the explination of "Jihad" in the original post. But lets not forget how Christianity spread to the Americas. Of the three faiths, i think the Jews have been the least militant with spreading their faith and conquering people with their swords as far as i know. The fact they have experienced the brunt of different 'empires' and have survived is remarkable imo.

Having said that Christianity isnt what it was 200-300 years ago. we have evolved a lot....and in my opinion for the better (well i can only speak for Catholicsm here, since i dont really follow what goes on in the rest of Christianity). More tolerant, preaching peace and equality, etc...at every level of the institution. You only have to look at the borders of the Muslim world (Pakistan, Chechnya, East Timor, Bali, Lebanon, Kenya, Algeria, Palestine, Serbia/Albania, Turkey) to realize that tolerance isnt as widely accepted in that society(due to religion) as it is in other societies. Maybe they just need more time to realize it seeing as how they are the youngest of the three, i dont know.

But i reckon the quote from Kindom of Heaven summs it up very well. it went something like this:
"We all beleive in the same God, but where Jesus gives you the choice to submit, Mohammed forces you to. And that makes all the difference."

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a
VW: ignorance is bliss isnt it ?

Moving on........
We do beleive in the same 'God', as in all three religions have the same origins. Jewdaism was the first, Christianity branched out, followed by Islam some 600 centuries later.
Judaism isn't that old
(I think you meant 6 centuries.)

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a
I also agree with the explination of "Jihad" in the original post. But lets not forget how Christianity spread to the Americas. Of the three faiths, i think the Jews have been the least militant with spreading their faith and conquering people with their swords as far as i know. The fact they have experienced the brunt of different 'empires' and have survived is remarkable imo.
Yes, and it's the reason why Judaism is (comparatively) tiny.

Other than that, I think your post is accurate. I think it depends on the degree of culture a society can `afford', and most of these countries are poor right now.
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Originally Posted by Randman
Christianity, Islam and Judaism all have the same God. He's not peaceful in any of them.
No surprise there; look at what he created!


If I were God, I'd give a major wedgie at a few people I know.

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Did you also read the part about how Islam treats Christians as equals because Muslims also believe in Jesus?

Didn't think so...
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Christianity, Islam and Judaism all have the same God. He's not peaceful in any of them.
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So I was bored and decided to read the whole thing.
Originally Posted by mojo2
Essence of Islam

....When the Islamic empire was established in 634 AD,
It was actually established in 632 when Abu Bakr was elected as Caliph.
Jihad means war against those people who don't want to accept the Islamic superior rule. That's jihad.
Wrong.

Volume 3, Book 29, Number 84:
Narrated Aisha (mother of the faithful believers):

I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shouldn't we participate in Holy battles and Jihad along with you?" He replied, "The best and the most superior Jihad (for women) is Hajj which is accepted by Allah." 'Aisha added: Ever since I heard that from Allah's Apostle I have determined not to miss Hajj.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 248:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service."

Volume 6, Book 60, Number 41:
Narrated Abu Wail:

Hudhaifa said, "The Verse:--

"And spend (of your wealth) in the Cause of Allah and do not throw yourselves in destruction," (2.195) was revealed concerning spending in Allah's Cause (i.e. Jihad)."


I won't go into a more precise explanation of Jihad as that would be a waste of time. Jihad means several things. It literally means "striving hard" or "struggle". I'll let you guys figure out the rest.

This civilization created one very important, fundamental rule about territory. Any territory that comes under Islamic rule cannot be de-Islamized.
Besides OBL on what does he base this on?

Peace in Islam can exist only within the Islamic world; peace can only be between Moslem and Moslem.
Wrong.

But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah. for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).

8:61


The reason that we have what we have in Yugoslavia and other places is because Islam succeeded into entering these countries. Wherever you have Islam, you will have war. It grows out of the attitude of Islamic civilization.
And the true colour of the Islamophobe comes to light.

The Bosnians were the victims. He's blaming the victims of an attempted genocide. Now where have we heard that before............

The Islamic world has not only the attitude of open war, but there's also war by infiltration.
And now he throws in a little bit of xenophobia. Or is he as much against the Christian infiltration of the Americas? Africa? Asia?

And dare I say the infiltration of Palestine by Jews?

I'm speaking now as a historian. I try to understand how Islam sees the end of days. In the end of days, Islam sees a world that is totally Moslem, completely Moslem under the rule of Islam. Complete and final victory.
And he finishes with flushing his credentials down the drain.

1. Isa will come back as the Messiah and vanquish the ad-Dajjal (Anti-Christ).

2. But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - to them shall We give a Home in Heaven,- lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers,- to dwell therein for aye;- an excellent reward for those who do (good)!

29:58

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

2:62

They say: "Become jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah."

2:135

(Both) the jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of Allah, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

5:18


-> you don't need to be a Muslim to get into heaven.



That whole article is a bunch of BS written by a Zionist Islamophobe (who would have thought). I just took a glance through the article and I was able to find all those faults. Yet he claims to be a historian. But then, simple minded people need text like this to fuel their hatred and fear of the unknown. Nothing new about it.



Again, I apologise for interrupting the hatefest.

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