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Oct 5, 2005, 07:33 PM
 
What should happen to him, if convicted?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1

Espionage Case Breaches the White House
Accused Marine Worked in Vice President's Office

By BRIAN ROSS and RICHARD ESPOSITO
Oct. 5, 2005 — - Both the FBI and CIA are calling it the first case of espionage in the White House in modern history.

Officials tell ABC News the alleged spy worked undetected at the White House for almost three years. Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, was a U.S. Marine most recently assigned to the staff of Vice President Dick Cheney.

"I don't know of a case where the vetting broke down before and resulted in a spy being in the White House," said Richard Clarke, a former White House advisor who is now an ABC News consultant.

Federal investigators say Aragoncillo, a naturalized citizen from the Philippines, used his top secret clearance to steal classified intelligence documents from White House computers.

In 2000, Aragoncillo worked on the staff of then-Vice President Al Gore. When interviewed by Philippine television, he remarked how valued Philippine employees were at the White House.

"I think what they like most is our integrity and loyalty," Aragoncillo said.


Classified Material Transferred by E-Mail

Officials say the classified material, which Aragoncillo stole from the vice president's office, included damaging dossiers on the president of the Philippines. He then passed those on to opposition politicians planning a coup in the Pacific nation.

"Even though it's not for the Russians or some other government, the fact that it occurred at the White House is a matter of great concern," said John Martin, who was the government's lead espionage prosecutor for 26 years.

Last year, after leaving the Marines, Aragoncillo was caught by the FBI while he worked for the Bureau at an intelligence center at Fort Monmouth, N.J.

According to a criminal complaint, Aragoncillo was arrested last month and accused of downloading more than 100 classified documents from FBI computers.

"The information was transferred mostly by e-mails," said U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie at the time of Aragoncillo's arrest.

Since that arrest, officials say Aragoncillo has started to cooperate. He has admitted to spying while working on the staff of Vice President Cheney's office.

Aragoncillo began working at the White House in 1999. Officials are now trying to learn how he landed the job, when he started spying, and how he escaped detection for so long.

"Of course, it is a source of embarrassment when you find out that this kind of activity has been carried out literally right under your nose," said Martin, the former espionage prosecutor.

According to friends, in addition to his work for Cheney and Gore, Aragoncillo claimed he also worked with President Clinton and Condoleezza Rice when she was the national security advisor.
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Oct 5, 2005, 08:04 PM
 
"I think what they like most is our integrity and loyalty," Aragoncillo said.
OHhhh -THAT- pisses me off!

As to the question of what should happen to him, I think his punishment should be harsh. That'll help serve as a deterrent to this kind of behavior.

But that will not completely prevent it--clearly something went wrong that this was allowed to happen. We need to find out what that is and fix it. Thankfully, it sounds like that process is underway.

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Oct 5, 2005, 11:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by KarlG
What should happen to him, if convicted?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1

Espionage Case Breaches the White House
Accused Marine Worked in Vice President's Office
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In other news, the President this morning picked one of his cronies to fill the upcoming Supreme Court vacancy, sticking to his time-honored tradition of politcal patronage. When asked about how he arrived at his decision, he stated, "It's easy; I just think 'what would Boss Tweed have did?'
I'm flattered you'd believe GWB knew that Boss Tweed wasn't actually a well known haberdasher and the inventor of the tweed jacket.
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Oct 5, 2005, 11:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by loki74
OHhhh -THAT- pisses me off!

As to the question of what should happen to him, I think his punishment should be harsh. That'll help serve as a deterrent to this kind of behavior.

But that will not completely prevent it--clearly something went wrong that this was allowed to happen. We need to find out what that is and fix it. Thankfully, it sounds like that process is underway.
No, this is a case of the imperialist yankee dogs trying to oppress one of the "brown ones."
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Oct 6, 2005, 08:46 AM
 
Is this the part where I get to blame Clinton for allowing this turd into the white house?

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Oct 6, 2005, 08:57 AM
 
What is the punishment for espionage, anyway?
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Oct 6, 2005, 10:01 AM
 
Originally Posted by smacintush
Is this the part where I get to blame Clinton for allowing this turd into the white house?


Seems it was both Clinton and Bush administrations this guy was in the WH for. So Dems and Repub are to blame...
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Oct 6, 2005, 10:29 AM
 
Spies should be punished to the fullest extent of the law of the country they're operating in (remember this if any of your spies are ever caught).

On there not having been spies in the White House in modern history, is WWII not considered 'modern history'? Russia had a bunch of spies in the White House during WWII.
     
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Oct 7, 2005, 10:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by stevesnj
Seems it was both Clinton and Bush administrations this guy was in the WH for. So Dems and Repub are to blame...
It was a joke…

…and neither PARTY is to blame, these things will happen from time to time. Whether another traitor got him in or it was a mistake or oversight that got him in it is ultimately the fault of an individual or individuals. Blaming political parties is just petty and dishonest.
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Oct 8, 2005, 12:41 AM
 
Originally Posted by smacintush
. Blaming political parties is just petty and dishonest.
Tell that to them
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