[Rolling Bones]

Softwood lumber dispute has been going on for years and American lumber producers want to keep you paying higher prices to build your home.

An editorial in the influential Wall Street Journal Friday sided with the Canadian position, adding ammunition to Martin's campaign.

"Americans have a stake here too, since the duties add about $1,000 to the cost of a new home and affect thousands of jobs in industries that depend on lower-cost Canadian lumber," the editorial read.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

About time Martin started getting tough.

[OldManMac]

Sounds like political posturing to get votes. You don't really think he's going to start a trade war over this, do you?

[Rolling Bones]

Originally Posted by KarlG

Sounds like political posturing to get votes. You don't really think he's going to start a trade war over this, do you?

No that would be dumb. He's just trying to prick the ears in D.C.

But there is a lot of talk about getting out of NAFTA by many Canadians.

It is a big issue in Canada and it will only hurt Americans more with even higher prices.

And it doesn't help the Americans wanting a pipeline thru Canada from Alaska.

[notloc_D]

A canadian trying to prick the ears of a US president...you don't say. Maybe he can stomp on a bush doll to really get his point across! Ot maybe he can threaten to arrest bush for war crimes.

Canadians cry about lumber...but think about all of the money the US spends on defense for Canada. If you want tariffs to be removed, perhaps canada should invest a little in the defese of north america.

[Rolling Bones]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

A canadian trying to prick the ears of a US president...you don't say. Maybe he can stomp on a bush doll to really get his point across! Ot maybe he can threaten to arrest bush for war crimes.

Canadians cry about lumber...but think about all of the money the US spends on defense for Canada. If you want tariffs to be removed, perhaps canada should invest a little in the defese of north america.

I agree with you...Canada should spend more on defense. And many Canadians agree with you too.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

I agree with you...Canada should spend more on defense. And many Canadians agree with you too.

Apparantly not enough! At anyrate, the US does so much for canada...and all our northern ????allies???? can do is look a gift horse in the mouth.

I lost all respect for canada after 9/11. All you people do is complain and attack the US. Forget about soft lumber and start thinking about mending a waning relationship. The arrogance and insolence is absolutely uncalled for. Why should America cater to anything Canadian when your people are so anti-american?

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

A canadian trying to prick the ears of a US president...you don't say. Maybe he can stomp on a bush doll to really get his point across! Ot maybe he can threaten to arrest bush for war crimes.

Canadians cry about lumber...but think about all of the money the US spends on defense for Canada. If you want tariffs to be removed, perhaps canada should invest a little in the defese of north america.

Yeah right. Thanks from defending us from evil Saddam Hussein!



Could you please defend us from Samoa too? I hear they have strange life habits; it must hide omse form of WMD. Actually, it appears that some home piping can be converted in giganting ICBMs!

Quick! Defend us! NOW!

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

Apparantly not enough! At anyrate, the US does so much for canada...and all our northern ????allies???? can do is look a gift horse in the mouth.

I lost all respect for canada after 9/11. All you people do is complain and attack the US. Forget about soft lumber and start thinking about mending a waning relationship. The arrogance and insolence is absolutely uncalled for. Why should America cater to anything Canadian when your people are so anti-american?

We are not anti-americans. We are anti-notloc_D and familiars.

Nothing personal. It's just the "we do so much for you you should bend down and obey us like it or not" attitude we have issues with.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

Yeah right. Thanks from defending us from evil Saddam Hussein!



Could you please defend us from Samoa too? I hear they have strange life habits; it must hide omse form of WMD. Actually, it appears that some home piping can be converted in giganting ICBMs!

Quick! Defend us! NOW!

The point is, you can't defend yourself at all. And you are so arrogant, you think you are immune to killer muslims and the sorts. If Canada were attacked, what would you do....

Cry to the US for help...

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

We are not anti-americans. We are anti-notloc_D and familiars.

Nothing personal. It's just the "we do so much for you you should bend down and obey us like it or not" attitude we have issues with.

Yeah, stomping on Bush dolls is a great way to show your alliamce with the US.

[Eug Wanker]

Why are you talking about stomping on Bush dolls? The person who did that was kicked out of the party, even though the party only had a minority government.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Why are you talking about stomping on Bush dolls? The person who did that was kicked out of the party, even though the party only had a minority government.

It happened. She was cheered. Not to mention the countless other anti-American acts and speech spewed by the great white north. Canada has done nothing but verbally attack the US since 9/11. You are no ally and deserve all of the tariffs we cn dole out.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

It happened. She was cheered. Not to mention the countless other anti-American acts and speech spewed by the great white north. Canada has done nothing but verbally attack the US since 9/11. You are no ally and deserve all of the tariffs we cn dole out.

First of all, is there anything that could possibly be said that would change anything, as far as you're concerned? You sound like you've made up your mind here, and have left no room for discussion. However, I'll try:

The U.S. spends a ridiculously high amount of money on its military. It literally has more weapons than it could ever use (although with all of that money they somebody managed to neglect armor for our soliders, go figure...). There is no way any country can even come close to comparing to what the U.S. spends on its military - per capita or otherwise. The closest is Japan, but even Japan's expenses are dwarfed by the U.S.'s.

However, I argue that the U.S. military expenses are what are inflated, not that Canada's expenses are deflated. Frankly, I think that Americans are far too paranoid about being attacked, and these days are scared of pretty much everything including their own shadows. How many weapons do we need? We already have the nuclear capability to blow up the world several times over. Think about where all that money (455 billion last year, I believe) could be spent instead of in buying new weapons? For one, it could be spent on doing things to improve life for those not high up within the military food-chain to increase enrollment and retention. It could also be reallocated to a number of other domestic programs, or maybe in aid to Africa (for those of you crying about Saddam's torture chambers and whatnot, are you aware of the genocide happening in Darfur?)

There is simply no way that a country with less population than the state of California and more land mass than the entire U.S. would ever be able to "shock and awe" against an enemy, or even put up anything closely resembling an impervious defense system. However, Canada's foreign policy has also given enemies far less reason to attack in the first place.

Whether you want to believe it or not, we are truly joined at the hip with Canada and are more dependent on them than you would like to think (Canadians are probably more dependent on the US than they would like to think too). Saying "f-you" Canada is not a smart move for anybody.

If you really want to have such strong opinions like this, perhaps you should learn a little more about the relationship and historical relationship between the two countries, rather than regurgitating Coulter's inflammatory opinions.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

Softwood lumber dispute has been going on for years and American lumber producers want to keep you paying higher prices to build your home.

An editorial in the influential Wall Street Journal Friday sided with the Canadian position, adding ammunition to Martin's campaign.

"Americans have a stake here too, since the duties add about $1,000 to the cost of a new home and affect thousands of jobs in industries that depend on lower-cost Canadian lumber," the editorial read.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

About time Martin started getting tough.

I say STARVE THE MOTHERBLEEPERS of energy, make them learn lessons the hard way.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by KarlG

Sounds like political posturing to get votes. You don't really think he's going to start a trade war over this, do you?

All the prov, lumber companies and a good portion of the population wants him to.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

A canadian trying to prick the ears of a US president...you don't say. Maybe he can stomp on a bush doll to really get his point across! Ot maybe he can threaten to arrest bush for war crimes.

Canadians cry about lumber...but think about all of the money the US spends on defense for Canada. If you want tariffs to be removed, perhaps canada should invest a little in the defese of north america.

HAHAHA funny, point out how many war ships, tanks and planes the US bought for the Canadian military, NONE. All bought with Canadian Tax money. Thanx for the good laugh, go get educated now.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

It happened. She was cheered. Not to mention the countless other anti-American acts and speech spewed by the great white north. Canada has done nothing but verbally attack the US since 9/11. You are no ally and deserve all of the tariffs we cn dole out.

And you don’t deserve any of our energy. How well do you think you would do with out our oil and power? 10% of your oil comes from Canada, and a massive amount of electricity. You lost our respect when you illegally invaded another country with no just cause.

[Railroader]

NAFTA should be ended now.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Railroader

NAFTA should be ended now.

Yup, it should, Canada should deal with China, they are more honest in trade.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

The point is, you can't defend yourself at all. And you are so arrogant, you think you are immune to killer muslims and the sorts. If Canada were attacked, what would you do....

Cry to the US for help...

Wrong question: will Canada be attacked? Why? By whom exactly?

The whole point of that "supposed" defense of yours would have turned both Canada and most of Europe in a battlefield during the Cold War.

Right now, the only real danger is from fanatic that cannot agree with the invasion of their country and the exploitation of their resources. So far, I have not seen Canada do that, although I know for sure some canadian corporation is abusing the rights of some citizens in some countries, not many are doing so in Islamist countries.

The problem many American s have is that the whole continent is called America, and because you call yourself the "United States of America", creates that wider vision of what you own, and therefore confuses your mind into thinking that canadians are only "strange people" who live off your land.

At the time of the Cold War, with the stupid paranoia that built up over the damn nukes, there were reasons for everyone there was a threat, but I not clear if everyone knew about the real threat, which was closer to an ongoing escalation and a leadership with nervous finger than a real intention to invade. Surprisingly, capitalism is the great invader, especially if you consider that greed was a factor of the demise of the USSR.

The day a war will started, I am certain your country will be at the forefront, if not the starter. If we feel the cause is just, I trust the canadian goverment to make the right decision as we did in the last 2 World Wars, or as a matter of fact, in all UN missions we were part of to attempt to maintain the Peace.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

It happened. She was cheered. Not to mention the countless other anti-American acts and speech spewed by the great white north. Canada has done nothing but verbally attack the US since 9/11. You are no ally and deserve all of the tariffs we cn dole out.

Yeah, right. a couple of people on TV are caught expressing their opinion and of course, Canada makes a decision!



Of course, all Americans love to use a cigar when having sex; I saw that on TV; the leader of the most powerful nation did it! Obviously, since people voted for him, all of them must have the same sexual habits!:thumsup:

Was that with Cuban cigars?

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Athens

Yup, it should, Canada should deal with China, they are more honest in trade.

I do not think so.

China as a bad record of Human Rights, and made pretty strong business supporting Human Rights abuse in other countries for its own benefit.

I know I cannot aboid all the goods coming from that kind of production, but I would like to keep it as low as possible. Not aggravate it.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

The point is, you can't defend yourself at all. And you are so arrogant, you think you are immune to killer muslims and the sorts. If Canada were attacked, what would you do....

Cry to the US for help...

It takes a super power to defend Canada, and it takes a super power to take it, a little history on the Canadian Military

Of the 500,000 troops Canada contributed to the allied war effort during World War I, 60,000 never came back. In 1919, the League of Nations was organized and Canada became a founding member. World War I had ironically been called "the war to end all wars," and the League was established to guard the peace. Its goal was to maintain international security by imposing collective economic or military sanctions against countries that threatened the peace. But Canada quickly asserted its independence at the League by declining to participate in collective security measures. This contributed to the isolationism, even more evident in the United States at that time, that finally rendered the League ineffective.

In 1931, Canada achieved sovereign nation status through the Statute of Westminster. As a member of the new British Commonwealth of Nations, Canada now had full power to make its own foreign and defence policies. Great Britain could no longer declare war on Canada's behalf. But, when World War II broke out in 1939, Canada again contributed generously to the allied effort. The loss of 45,000 soldiers further strengthened the country's resolve to defend world peace. In 1945, the United Nations was formed as the central forum for dealing with issues of world peace. As a recognized middle power, Canada used its voice in world councils to promote collective security. An early and strong advocate of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), Canada firmly supported the United Nations involvement in the Korean War in 1950.

But Canadian leaders chose not to maintain a large military force during peacetime as a means of deterring war. After both world wars, Canada demobilized its troops as rapidly as any of the victorious powers. While it supported NATO in the late 1940s as a bulwark against Soviet military expansion into Western Europe, it did not plan to send troops to Europe in aid of the alliance. When the call came from the United Nations requesting troops be sent to Korea, the Canadian military cupboard was almost bare. Once again, Canada found itself rapidly mobilizing: its defence budget leaped to an all-time high of 7.8% of the gross domestic product; 154 Canadian naval vessels including nine destroyers put to sea, and 27,000 Canadian soldiers (the fourth largest United Nations contingent) saw action in Korea, with 424 casualties.

NATO, however, profited most from Canada's dramatic remilitarization in 1950. Canada deployed 10,000 troops and 12 air squadrons to Europe, and earmarked its naval forces in the Atlantic chiefly for the alliance. But the situation in Europe has changed, and the 1994 White Paper on Defence announced the recall of these troops. Canada will instead maintain its military forces at home in the event of a new security threat.

The wars in which Canada's soldiers fought during this century were not great tests of Canadian patriotism because the Canadian homeland was never clearly at risk. For Canada, these were wars of principle: Canadians believed they were defending democracy during the two world wars and supporting the notion of collective security in the Korean War and more recently in the Gulf War. But, these were also wars of commitment. In the 20th century, Canada went to war partly because of commitments to its great power benefactors. For Canada, the world wars were Britain's wars; the Korean War and the Gulf War were America's wars.

BTW, like to point out, your MASSIVE SUPER MILITARY did **** to immune u to killer muslims on 911, which shows in the threat of today, massive military power isn't a safe guard

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

I do not think so.

China as a bad record of Human Rights, and made pretty strong business supporting Human Rights abuse in other countries for its own benefit.

I know I cannot aboid all the goods coming from that kind of production, but I would like to keep it as low as possible. Not aggravate it.

If that is the case, how can we trade with the US whos record is almost as bad.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Athens

It takes a super power to defend Canada, and it takes a super power to take it, a little history on the Canadian Military

Are you saying Canada has no responsibility to NATO?

BTW, like to point out, your MASSIVE SUPER MILITARY did **** to immune u to killer muslims on 911, which shows in the threat of today, massive military power isn't a safe guard

Being a pussy isn'[t a safeguard against terrorists either. At anyrate, it is sort of funny how Canadians now bite the hand that feeds them. This 'massive' military was/ is a benefit to Noth America and NATO.

Your right though, Canada doesn't need such a force....when you are insignificant, you can always reliy on your neigbr for defense.

[DBursey]

In both times of war and of peace, the United States has demonstrated itself again and again to be an unreliable and untrustworthy partner, both in the cavalier means by which it breaks its word and in the fickle means by which it ignores the generosity of its neighbor.

Canada devoted its resources to fighting fascism in both world wars long prior to America's late and self-interested involvement. Canada's aid was first in response to the 9/11 attacks on your country. Canada's military has been committed from day one to the true 'war on terror'. Canada has dealt faithfully with your country under the auspices of the NAFTA.

Our efforts come to naught in terms of recognition and respect from our self-absorbed southern neighbour. Some trivia-testing questions for you:

1. Which country provided shelter for tens of thousands of stranded American travelers following the 9/11 attacks?
2. Which country's heavy urban rescue teams were the first to enter New Orleans following hurricane Katrina, a full 5 days before American rescue teams entered the city?
3. Which country provides the largest percentage of foreign oil imports to the United States?
4. Which country is the United States' largest trading partner, with over one billion dollars (US) in daily cross-border trade?
5. Which country currently has the 2nd largest contingent of soldiers stationed in Afghanistan?
6. Which country has never had to rely on its southern neighbour for military aid or defense?

Winners of this quiz win an all-expenses paid first-ever trip outside their home county.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

Being a pussy isn'[t a safeguard against terrorists either.

Yeah. We saw that in Rwanda.

At anyrate, it is sort of funny how Canadians now bite the hand that feeds them.

I don't remember biting you.

This 'massive' military was/ is a benefit to Noth America and NATO.

You especially. NATO is useless nowadays; they're looking at original ways to recycle that outfit, so relax.

Your right though, Canada doesn't need such a force....

Yep. We'll wait for the so-called invaders to take over. Iran is a likely candidate nowadays. Or North Korea?

when you are insignificant, you can always reliy on your neigbr for defense.

A real friend. Now you understand why we may not be so enthused with your ways?

[James L]

notloc_D:

Hate to tell you my friend, but on Sept 11th Canada was the FIRST country to aid the US, both by taking in planes that could not land in American airports, by providing homes to thousands of stranded passengers, by sending resources to NYC, and by contributing financial aid.

Canada was in Afghanistan from the very beginning, and Canadian soldiers were decorated by the American government for their actions.

Canada did not participate in the war in Iraq because it had absolutely nothing to do with the WoT, and everything to do with Bush invading and occupying a foreign nation under a pack of lies (what they now call bad intel). Many Americans drank the cool aid on this matter. Canada did not. No need to apologize... we we right.

We won't even talk about the hundreds of millions, of dollars in trade that occurs between our nations EACH day.

After Katrina, Canadian Search and Rescue teams were on the ground before American ones were in many areas. Go figure.

As to the military, we do not ask for protection from the US, and do not benefit from it in this day and age like you think we do. I have asked this of mojo in another thread, but he is not capable of a straight answer so I will ask you:

What nation has the ability to invade, and occupy, Canada that you protect us from? A massive military, such as yours, does not protect a nation from terrorist attacks. The only use of a massive military, besides ego gratification, is to fight large scale wars. The only large scale war your military has been used in recently as been Iraq and Afghanistan (to a much lesser extent). Neither of these countries has the ability to invade and occupy Canada, the 2nd largest nation in the world, and surrounded by oceans.

So, whom do you defend us from? Russia? They are our trade partner. UK? France? Australia? Who is a threat to us on our soil that you protect us from? A straight answer please.

The military history of the US over the last 20-40 years has accomplished several things. Some have been very good and noble. Others have simply served to invoke the hatred of the terrorists, and to help plunge the US into an 8 TRILLION dollar debt.

Finally, on the softwood lumber note, the US has lost countless rulings in the world courts on this matter. The US has stolen $5 billion dollars from Canada on this matter, and its end result in America has been higher housing costs to American citizens.

Hopefully one day the US will stop breaking world laws, refund our money, and allow free trade to continue.

You can call Canada insignificant if you wish, and all you do is make yourself out to be the stereotypical American that people around the world do not like. Thank god, from my many travels throughout the US, you are a minority.

If you can answer my questions with straight answers, I look forward to your response. If you cannot, save the arrogant rhetoric... you can use it to annoy someone else when you go on vacation.

[Sky Captain]

There are as many Americans as there are Canadians manning the NORAD fascilities.
At least there were when I was a Captain in the USAF.
Hell we had Canadians in our Airlift Wing.

I don't see what all the fuss is over the US lumber industry. We clear cut lumber to send to Mexico where they mill it into paper and sell it back to us.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Athens

I say STARVE THE MOTHERBLEEPERS of energy, make them learn lessons the hard way.

I say you fdo that to. It give us a reason to drill more in ALaska...claim some disputed terrirtoy, and quite supporting the land of nothingness

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by besson3c

First of all, is there anything that could possibly be said that would change anything, as ......

The US is a virtual empire. We have interests throughout the world. Th ehuge amount of money spent on our military prowess enables the pleasures you enjoy...the pleasures canadian leeches enjoy. It's not just about homeland security. Its about North American Security, European Security, Asian Security, African Security, and Middle Eastern Security.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

The US is a virtual empire. We have interests throughout the world. Th ehuge amount of money spent on our military prowess enables the pleasures you enjoy...the pleasures canadian leeches enjoy. It's not just about homeland security. Its about North American Security, European Security, Asian Security, African Security, and Middle Eastern Security.

That is an imperialistic view. Good for you. We disagree. Point taken on our side. Meanwhile, you can't keep yourself from repeating. Please get tired now.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Athens

If that is the case, how can we trade with the US whos record is almost as bad.

And canada never had any human rights violations?
heres one for you
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3946115.stm
Kidnapping little children and placing them in concentration camps...HOW DISGUISTING

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

Yeah. We saw that in Rwanda.

where was canada

You especially. NATO is useless nowadays; they're looking at original ways to recycle that outfit, so relax.

Yea, NATO is useless because nations like CANADA refuse to hold up their end of the bargain.

Yep. We'll wait for the so-called invaders to take over. Iran is a likely candidate nowadays. Or North Korea?

You never know. You never know. One of your politicians couls stomp on a Putin doll. The next thing you know...poof, Canadians no longer have a queen on their loonie, they have a tsar...(has canada ever declared independence from the UK?)

A real friend. Now you understand why we may not be so enthused with your ways?

Canada has never been a real friend.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by James L

notloc_D:

Hate to tell you my friend, but on Sept 11th Canada was the FIRST country to aid the US, both by taking in planes that could not land in American airports, by providing homes to thousands of stranded passengers, by sending resources to NYC, and by contributing financial aid.

Along with every other nation, providing aid in a time of crisis. Am I supposed to be overjoyed that our ally gave us aid in a time of crisis? IIRC, so did Russia, Japan, even Saudi Arabia.

Canada was in Afghanistan from the very beginning, and Canadian soldiers were decorated by the American government for their actions.

Woohoo, they lived up to the terms of their alliance with the US and NATO. Too bad, the only thing the Canadian military is good for is humanitarian efforts. Perhaps if we had some real soldiers helping US forces, fewer men would have dies and Osama would be captured. Instead, Canada has proven to be quite proficient in dropping food from airplanes to feed the terrorists with humanitarian aid.

Canada did not participate in the war in Iraq because it had absolutely nothing to do with the WoT, and everything to do with Bush invading and occupying a foreign nation under a pack of lies (what they now call bad intel). Many Americans drank the cool aid on this matter. Canada did not. No need to apologize... we we right.

So, all of this is about Iraq?

We won't even talk about the hundreds of millions, of dollars in trade that occurs between our nations EACH day.

Key word...TRADE. IT GOES BOTH WAYS! Why do Canadians think tyhey are on top of the food chain here. It is trade. It goes both ways.

After Katrina, Canadian Search and Rescue teams were on the ground before American ones were in many areas. Go figure.

I expect a neighbor to provide assistance. Do you want a cookie?

As to the military, we do not ask for protection from the US, and do not benefit from it in this day and age like you think we do. I have asked this of mojo in another thread, but he is not capable of a straight answer so I will ask you:

What nation has the ability to invade, and occupy, Canada that you protect us from? A massive military, such as yours, does not protect a nation from terrorist attacks. The only use of a massive military, besides ego gratification, is to fight large scale wars. The only large scale war your military has been used in recently as been Iraq and Afghanistan (to a much lesser extent). Neither of these countries has the ability to invade and occupy Canada, the 2nd largest nation in the world, and surrounded by oceans.

So, whom do you defend us from? Russia? They are our trade partner. UK? France? Australia? Who is a threat to us on our soil that you protect us from? A straight answer please.

Ever heard of missles. ICBM's. Nuclear weapons. Tell me about your laughable navy. Cold you defend yourself from a sub attack?

Relationships change. Are you that ignorant of history? We were allies with Russia...then we were swornn enemies. Germans were evil, then semi-=evil, then they killed the jews, now they are friends. Are you saying a little neo-nazi could NEVER gain power in a nation of such hate again. Japan...I don't think it would take much to change the opinions of a people who severed heads, committed hari kari, had kamikazee missions, and experienced the first a-bomb first hand. Then you have the middle east wackos...you know, the ones that Canada harboured before they attacked the WTC. How much do you think it would take for Israel to spark a world war? Or egypt. Or syria, or palestine. How hard would it be for Iran to form an alliance with Germans? Sheesh, the possibilities are countless. Hell, if I had an Army, i would attack Canada...just for shits and giggles.

Incidently, tell me who would attack the US

The military history of the US over the last 20-40 years has accomplished several things. Some have been very good and noble. Others have simply served to invoke the hatred of the terrorists, and to help plunge the US into an 8 TRILLION dollar debt.

9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Katrina, Rita, Supporting Canada, supporting NATO, defending the world has helped us to garner such a debt. AND YOU BITCH ABOUT A FEW TREES> **** YOU CANADA. (not you specifically)

Finally, on the softwood lumber note, the US has lost countless rulings in the world courts on this matter. The US has stolen $5 billion dollars from Canada on this matter, and its end result in America has been higher housing costs to American citizens.

Hopefully one day the US will stop breaking world laws, refund our money, and allow free trade to continue.

World Court? Sorry, we are a sovereign nation and will act in our best interests. We have seen how effective world courts and the UN are. We are THE Superpower...get over it

You can call Canada insignificant if you wish, and all you do is make yourself out to be the stereotypical American that people around the world do not like. Thank god, from my many travels throughout the US, you are a minority.

Sorry, Canada is insignificant in this world. You are leeches on the Great United States. Hell, you don't even have the balls to declare independence from England. Long live the Queen!

If you can answer my questions with straight answers, I look forward to your response. If you cannot, save the arrogant rhetoric... you can use it to annoy someone else when you go on vacation.[/QUOTE]

[James L]

I am not sure which is funnier, your inept use of the quote function (I see you went back and fixed this just now) , your rampant arrogance, or your insane paranoia.

It reminds me of the old joke:

Q: "Are Americans the most superior people in the world?"
A: "Sure they are... just ask any of them!"

Whichever it is, welcome to MacNN and the political lounge. A little comic relief is always welcome!

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by James L

I am not sure which is funnier, your inept use of the quote function, your rampant arrogance, or your insane paranoia.

fixed.

at any rate...is that the best you can do. I want to hear how the world is safe from evil and how North America can never be attacked....well, at least I want to hear canadian rationale. You wanted a str* answer, I gave you one. Now how about using a little American integrity ( I know that is hard as a canadian) and respond without the insults.

[James L]

Now how about using a little American integrity

Originally Posted by notloc_D

World Court? Sorry, we are a sovereign nation and will act in our best interests.

You are a sovereign nation that signed legal documents, and agreed to abide to the terms therein.

So, are you saying that your country has no integrity, and signs legal documents knowing full well that it will break the conditions of them when it suits your purpose?

Huh... interesting.

On the topic of American integrity, are we to use your example above as our guidelines (the apparent willingness to commit to legal contracts, and then break them when it is more self serving)? The lies used to invade Iraq as our guidelines? The "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" occurrence as our guidelines?

Please, tell us more about your integrity!

...and respond without the insults

Let us look at a few of your comments so far in this thread:

All you people do is complain

The arrogance and insolence

Being a pussy

when you are insignificant

Sooooo, should I follow your lead there? You know, the "without insults" that you asked for?



On another note:

Woohoo, they lived up to the terms of their alliance with the US and NATO. Too bad, the only thing the Canadian military is good for is humanitarian efforts. Perhaps if we had some real soldiers helping US forces, fewer men would have dies...

I assume that last word was supposed to be died.

Actually, many of the wars that the US have been involved with had nothing to do with the NATO agreements... you really should study up on that.

Ironically enough, Canada lost more soldiers to an inept US pilot dropping bombs on them then we did to the terrorists. Sad, really.



I have refrained from commenting on your atrocious spelling and making the obvious connection to your education system as we have done that for years on this board and it is getting kind of boring now.



notloc_D, you haven't been around long. If you had, you would know that I do not attack the US unless a person such as yourself attacks Canada first. For work, and to visit friends, I spend a fair bit of time in the US. I think I have been in over 40 of the states, maybe a bit higher. I am very familiar with the US, and its people.

Thank god, most of them are not like you.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by James L

notloc_D, you haven't been around long. If you had, you would know that I do not attack the US unless a person such as yourself attacks Canada first. For work, and to visit friends, I spend a fair bit of time in the US. I think I have been in over 40 of the states, maybe a bit higher. I am very familiar with the US, and its people.

I am no noobie. Just remember that. As for spelling and grammar. I could care less. This isn't an academic setting. This is a discussion forum. I refuse to tae the time to use the delete key. I just keep on typing. You understand what IU am sayingh. that is fgood enough for me.

Incidently, you never responded to my answer to the question you demanded an answer to. Canadian cat got your tongue?

[DBursey]

Now how about using a little American integrity ( I know that is hard as a canadian) and respond without the insults.

You've gotten one thing right. As a Canadian, it is tough to relate to American integrity these days.

I think I'll spin a little Green Day as I peruse your posts.

[notloc_D]

what is green day?

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

I am no noobie. Just remember that. As for spelling and grammar. I could care less. This isn't an academic setting. This is a discussion forum. I refuse to tae the time to use the delete key. I just keep on typing. You understand what IU am sayingh. that is fgood enough for me.

Incidently, you never responded to my answer to the question you demanded an answer to. Canadian cat got your tongue?

How old are you?

[notloc_D]

how old are you. Judging by your attention to grammar, my guess would be a freshman in college...a mediocre college (j/k)

When you get beyond that I am in college and I know everything phase certain things become less important. One of those being trying to impress zit faced kids on a discussion forum (not calling you zit faced)

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

how old are you. Judging by your attention to grammar, my guess would be a freshman in college...a mediocre college (j/k)

When you get beyond that I am in college and I know everything phase certain things become less important. One of those being trying to impress zit faced kids on a discussion forum (not calling you zit faced)

Actually, this is how you have been coming across... pompous, arrogant, that you know everything, and no matter what is said you'll just repeat your opinion and provocative comments over and over again about Canada being a horribly ally. You are not here for an actual conversation, are you? You are here to assert your beliefs which are already firmly set. Is there anything that we could possibly say that would make you change your mind?

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by besson3c

Actually, this is how you have been coming across... pompous, arrogant, that you know everything, and no matter what is said you'll just repeat your opinion and provocative comments over and over again about Canada being a horribly ally. You are not here for an actual conversation, are you? You are here to assert your beliefs which are already firmly set. Is there anything that we could possibly say that would make you change your mind?

did you check your grammar on that last post? I must have hit some sort of nerve!


At any rate, where have I simply repeated statements. I have answered all questions asked of me, but the response has not been the same. All I get is someone calling me names, criticizing my grammar, and attacking an error in using the quote function.

How does that make you better?


edit: I was right about your age though...wasn't I

[notloc_D]

Incidently, does anyone have a synopsis of the 'world court case'?

Also, devoid of an international court...how are these tarriffs unfair, if it is true that the US spends an excess supporting Canada.

[DBursey]

Canadians cry about lumber...but think about all of the money the US spends on defense for Canada. If you want tariffs to be removed, perhaps canada should invest a little in the defese of north america.

All the money you spend on defending North America from whom? Arabs in airplanes? Hurricanes? Saddam Hussein with nuclear missiles?

Canadians have repeatedly come to the aid of North Americans in distress while your administration has dithered and dabbled in demonstrating an embarrassing ineptitude.

Sort of as you're doing here.

[DBursey]

..how are these tarriffs unfair ...

They violate a heretofore mutually agreed-upon set of rules governing bilateral trade between two countries.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by DBursey

All the money you spend on defending North America from whom? Arabs in airplanes? Hurricanes? Saddam Hussein with nuclear missiles?

Canadians have repeatedly come to the aid of North Americans in distress while your administration has dithered and dabbled in demonstrating an embarrassing ineptitude.

Sort of as you're doing here.

all of the money is going towards a virtual empire that Cnada benefits from. As I mentioned earlier, and since i am being accussed of repeating myself, I will direct you to the above postS to find the answer to your questiond

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by DBursey

They violate a heretofore mutually agreed-upon set of rules governing bilateral trade between two countries.

Give me a link to the agreement