[notloc_D]

Take this for what it is worth. It will end up being a flame war, probably. Don't get upset. Don't go crying. Just DEAL WITH IT, and prove my theories wrong...if you can



Have some fun!

#1. The number one threat to peace in this world is GERMANY. To understand this, just look at their history. Just scratching the surface, we can easily say they started TWO WORLD WARS, was responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of the world population AND they tried to exterminate the JEWS!

Of course, the Germans claim that in a couple of generations, they erased their racism and propensity for war and death...but do you really think German Grandparents changed that much. If they weren't part of the problem during WWII, they were turning their heads as other Germans slaughtered the Jews and planned world domination. How many people think that grandparents don't have any influence on their children, grandchildren.

Let's fast forward a bit. Germany, of course formed a flase 'friendship' with Israel. All the while, they were selling weapons to their Middle Eastern fellows. You know, those ME nations who want nothing more than to drive the Jews into the seas. I don't think it was too suprising to find that scud missles launched by that benovlent dictator, Saddam Hussein was comprised of GERMAN parts.

I don't know about you, but for a nation who attempted to exterminate the Jews to sell weapons, of any kind, to a people who have the same goal...well, lets just call it suspect. No, evil.

Then,, we have the Oil for Food scandal, as Germans and the French pocketed money that was supposed to aid suffering Iraqi children. Some call it greed, but after looking at history...I call it a plan. What better way to demonize the US and her true allies than to blame suffering and death on the US, which equates to blaming Israel. What a way to fuel world anger and allow ARABS to gain world sympathy.

Germany has heavily invested in Middle Eastern nations and have an interest in their success. As we have seen, they view this success as paramount as they have sold weapons to ME nations that are used against Israel.

And what about the resurgence of nazism in Germany. If you think it will pass with time, think again. The EU fuels hate because of foreign interference. Hate is always dropped down to the bottom line. For germans...their bottom line is the Jew. My prediction...in 15 years, Germany will start another conflict, or be a major player as the world is thrown into yet another WW caused by Germany yet again.

Reunification was wrong and removing US troops from german soil is wrong. Germans have a proven history of bloodlust. Why should we risk allowing them to repeat themselves?

[Dork.]

My vote is for Belgium. I don't really know why. I just think they're up to something!

[Powerbook]

You're either an idiot or you take history, economics and politics as something to learn between breakfast and lunch.
Oh and Germany didn't start two world wars, it started one and participated in another.


PB.

[von Wrangell]

Iceland. Definitely. We're up to something but I can't tell you what it is. I'll give you a hint though. Killer whales.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by von Wrangell

Iceland. Definitely. We're up to something but I can't tell you what it is. I'll give you a hint though. Killer whales.

are you logic?

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by von Wrangell

Iceland. Definitely. We're up to something but I can't tell you what it is. I'll give you a hint though. Killer whales.

ROFLMAO!

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

are you logic?

No, I was Logic.

Flame away.

[Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by Dork.

My vote is for Belgium. I don't really know why. I just think they're up to something!

Be afraid, VERY afraid.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Powerbook

You're either an idiot or you take history, economics and politics as something to learn between breakfast and lunch.
Oh and Germany didn't start two world wars, it started one and participated in another.


PB.

How am I wrong? You didn't attempt to exterminate the jews? Scud missle parts weren't found in scud missles used byu SH to attack Israel? Germany doesn't have significabnt investments in the ME. They never sold any weapons to any ME nation. Contemporary German grandparents didn't kill millions upon millions upon millions of jews and europeans, and americans, and canadians, and russians, and ...well you get the point.
There isn't a resurgence in nazism. Black football players aren't harrassed by german fans?

Please, show me. I so want to trust Germans. But your actions make me worry.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by von Wrangell

No, I was Logic.

Flame away.

Nope, glad you are here.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

Take this for what it is worth. It will end up being a flame war, probably. Don't get upset. Don't go crying. Just DEAL WITH IT, and prove my theories wrong...if you can



Have some fun!

#1. The number one threat to peace in this world is GERMANY. To understand this, just look at their history. Just scratching the surface, we can easily say they started TWO WORLD WARS, was responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of the world population AND they tried to exterminate the JEWS!

Of course, the Germans claim that in a couple of generations, they erased their racism and propensity for war and death...but do you really think German Grandparents changed that much. If they weren't part of the problem during WWII, they were turning their heads as other Germans slaughtered the Jews and planned world domination. How many people think that grandparents don't have any influence on their children, grandchildren.

Let's fast forward a bit. Germany, of course formed a flase 'friendship' with Israel. All the while, they were selling weapons to their Middle Eastern fellows. You know, those ME nations who want nothing more than to drive the Jews into the seas. I don't think it was too suprising to find that scud missles launched by that benovlent dictator, Saddam Hussein was comprised of GERMAN parts.

I don't know about you, but for a nation who attempted to exterminate the Jews to sell weapons, of any kind, to a people who have the same goal...well, lets just call it suspect. No, evil.

Then,, we have the Oil for Food scandal, as Germans and the French pocketed money that was supposed to aid suffering Iraqi children. Some call it greed, but after looking at history...I call it a plan. What better way to demonize the US and her true allies than to blame suffering and death on the US, which equates to blaming Israel. What a way to fuel world anger and allow ARABS to gain world sympathy.

Germany has heavily invested in Middle Eastern nations and have an interest in their success. As we have seen, they view this success as paramount as they have sold weapons to ME nations that are used against Israel.

And what about the resurgence of nazism in Germany. If you think it will pass with time, think again. The EU fuels hate because of foreign interference. Hate is always dropped down to the bottom line. For germans...their bottom line is the Jew. My prediction...in 15 years, Germany will start another conflict, or be a major player as the world is thrown into yet another WW caused by Germany yet again.

Reunification was wrong and removing US troops from german soil is wrong. Germans have a proven history of bloodlust. Why should we risk allowing them to repeat themselves?

You sound like aberdeenwriter! Only more logical. (No offense to either of you.)

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

How am I wrong?/

Let's see.

You didn't attempt to exterminate the jews?

No, that was the Nazis.

Scud missle parts weren't found in scud missles used byu SH to attack Israel?

Scud is not a German missile. Perhaps you could elaborate?

Germany doesn't have significabnt investments in the ME.

The US doesn't?

They never sold any weapons to any ME nation.

The US hasn't?

Contemporary German grandparents didn't kill millions upon millions upon millions of jews and europeans, and americans, and canadians, and russians, and ...well you get the point.

The Jews were killed by the Nazis. The rest were killed in a war. War is ugly.

There isn't a resurgence in nazism. Black football players aren't harrassed by german fans?

Not nearly as in other European nations ( :cough: Spain, Italy and most of Eastern Europe :cough:

Please, show me. I so want to trust Germans. But your actions make me worry.

You can be absolutely certain Germany won't be starting any wars in the future. They've actually learned from their history. Something that can't be said about many other nations.

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

Nope, glad you are here.

You're weird. Logic is hated around here.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by von Wrangell

Let's see.

No, that was the Nazis.

So, if we talk about slavery, I can say, no, that was the southern democrats...right?

Scud is not a German missile. Perhaps you could elaborate?

gotta find the link...German parts were found in the scud missles launched against Israel.

The US doesn't?

The US hasn't?

Is that teh best you got, legitimizing German hatred by pointing your finger at the US. Sort of reminds me of Europes appeasement that allowed Germany to continue their killer ways. Wouldn't you say ignoring German aggression was a major cause of all of the bloodshed in WWII?

The Jews were killed by the Nazis. The rest were killed in a war. War is ugly.

The nazis were the germans. And yes, war is ugly. Remeber that the next time you spit on the US for our efforts in stabilizing the Middle East. Incidently, War is ugly...especially a brutal war started by the Germans. Didn't they invent raping and razing?

Not nearly as in other European nations ( :cough: Spain, Italy and most of Eastern Europe :cough:

But it is there. And the others are probably of German decent.

You can be absolutely certain Germany won't be starting any wars in the future. They've actually learned from their history. Something that can't be said about many other nations.

Really, selling weapons to jew hating nations is a great start, Stealing money from hungry iraqi children always looks good to. Europe turned a blind eye in the 20th century. Don;t make the same mistake in the 21st

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Powerbook

You're either an idiot or you take history, economics and politics as something to learn between breakfast and lunch.
Oh and Germany didn't start two world wars, it started one and participated in another.


PB.

And, what is a **********
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...ge=1&pp=50

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

Didn't they invent raping and razing?

No, that was probably invented by the Vikings. Remember the killer whales.

[Artful Dodger]

Germany is a has been. They tried to f-up the world before and failed miserably...now they just stick to building cars and manly women. Everyone finds their niche eventually.

Personally, I think Syria needs to be dealt with. Some soap for it's people would be an effective first step.

[segovius]

Originally Posted by von Wrangell

No, that was probably invented by the Vikings. Remember the killer whales.

The Romans had a patent on R & R way before the Vikings......

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by segovius

The Romans had a patent on R & R way before the Vikings......

You are correct. But still remember the killer whales.

[segovius]

Originally Posted by Artful Dodger

Germany is a has been. They tried to f-up the world before and failed miserably...now they just stick to building cars and manly women. Everyone finds their niche eventually.

Personally, I think Syria needs to be dealt with. Some soap for it's people would be an effective first step.

If they're going to be 'dealt with' then maybe some guns and/or bomb shelters for innocent civilians might be higher priorities.

Personally I think that countries and people who advocate 'dealing with' others are the ones who are the greatest threat - that is a link to Nazi Germany actually. They thought that too.

[Pendergast]

I would bet on Easter Island.

Those statues staring give me the creeps.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by Powerbook

You're either an idiot or you take history, economics and politics as something to learn between breakfast and lunch.
Oh and Germany didn't start two world wars, it started one and participated in another.


PB.

I won't go so far as to say you're an idiot, but the rest of his statement stands. Generalizations like yours are usually what inflames a group of people to start wars. So sad you know nothing of which you speak.

[OldManMac]

quote by notloc-D:

Didn't they invent raping and razing?



That question alone shows how much you know of which you speak. Somehow or other, I'm reasonably certain raping and razing were around before the Germans.

[Artful Dodger]

Originally Posted by segovius

If they're going to be 'dealt with' then maybe some guns and/or bomb shelters for innocent civilians might be higher priorities.

Personally I think that countries and people who advocate 'dealing with' others are the ones who are the greatest threat - that is a link to Nazi Germany actually. They thought that too.

you must be a manly woman

[segovius]

Originally Posted by Artful Dodger

you must be a manly woman

How dare you - I'm a womanly man....

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by KarlG

quote by notloc-D:

Didn't they invent raping and razing?



That question alone shows how much you know of which you speak. Somehow or other, I'm reasonably certain raping and razing were around before the Germans.

I would think someone of your stature would recognize a joke when he read it.

A knee jerk reaction is all. COngratulations. I hope you didn't get a black eye

[OldManMac]

Feel better about yourself, now? Good.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by KarlG

Feel better about yourself, now? Good.

not really, I didn;t say what I really wanted to say.

HOw you doing Karl, its been a while.

[Pendergast]

Woaw...

[notloc_D]

no, no, no! I like Karl. He isn't a fan of mine...but I appreciate his no nonsense spunkiness.

[Rolling Bones]

It's always hard to discuss something with someone who has no idea about history except maybe the crap in American history books.

Among nations and civilizations that have committed atrocities and genocide Germany doesn't even make top ten.

Some of these leaders are now are even seen as heroes.

Stalin...Alexander...Khan...

The 'French and Indian' wars (Seven Years War) and 'The Napoleonic Wars' and wars over the new world were actually the original world wars.

These all involved England, Spain, France, The Netherlands, the Americans, The Ottoman Empire, etc,...not a German in sight except maybe some mercenaries.

Ahh...what's the use...

[notloc_D]

Yea, lets minimize an attempt to exterminate the Jews by going a more than a thousand years back in history. I believe I said Germany was the greatest threat NOW...not centuries ago. But of course, it is always hard to discuss issues that require you to think outside of the box with pseudo intellectuals who pay more attention to what they can regurgitate rather than what they can speculate.

ahhh...whats the use?

[Artful Dodger]

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

It's always hard to discuss something with someone who has no idea about history except maybe the crap in American history books.

Among nations and civilizations that have committed atrocities and genocide Germany doesn't even make top ten.

Some of these leaders are now are even seen as heroes.

Stalin...Alexander...Khan...

The 'French and Indian' wars (Seven Years War) and 'The Napoleonic Wars' and wars over the new world were actually the original world wars.

These all involved England, Spain, France, The Netherlands, the Americans, The Ottoman Empire, etc,...not a German in sight except maybe some mercenaries.

Ahh...what's the use...

what textbooks do you recommend so that I can be a radiant source of enlightenment, such as yourself.

[Rolling Bones]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

Yea, lets minimize an attempt to exterminate the Jews by going a more than a thousand years back in history. I believe I said Germany was the greatest threat NOW...not centuries ago. But of course, it is always hard to discuss issues that require you to think outside of the box with pseudo intellectuals who pay more attention to what they can regurgitate rather than what they can speculate.

ahhh...whats the use?

Stalin is fairly recent. He murdered upwards of 24 to 25 million of his own people.

That would be like George Dubya killing most of California. Not that some Republicans wouldn't mind.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

Stalin is fairly recent. He murdered upwards of 24 to 25 million of his own people.

That would be like George Dubya killing most of California. Not that some Republicans wouldn't mind.

See, now that is a good point.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

So, if we talk about slavery, I can say, no, that was the southern democrats...right?

gotta find the link...German parts were found in the scud missles launched against Israel.

Is that teh best you got, legitimizing German hatred by pointing your finger at the US. Sort of reminds me of Europes appeasement that allowed Germany to continue their killer ways. Wouldn't you say ignoring German aggression was a major cause of all of the bloodshed in WWII?

The nazis were the germans. And yes, war is ugly. Remeber that the next time you spit on the US for our efforts in stabilizing the Middle East. Incidently, War is ugly...especially a brutal war started by the Germans. Didn't they invent raping and razing?

But it is there. And the others are probably of German decent.

Really, selling weapons to jew hating nations is a great start, Stealing money from hungry iraqi children always looks good to. Europe turned a blind eye in the 20th century. Don;t make the same mistake in the 21st

a) There are Chinese parts in American SCUD missiles That doesn't mean China approves of the use of our missiles.
b) There are also American part's in Arab missiles. Does this mean we're Jew haters?
c) Just stop. Stop now.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

Yea, lets minimize an attempt to exterminate the Jews by going a more than a thousand years back in history. I believe I said Germany was the greatest threat NOW...not centuries ago. But of course, it is always hard to discuss issues that require you to think outside of the box with pseudo intellectuals who pay more attention to what they can regurgitate rather than what they can speculate.

ahhh...whats the use?

Please tell me why the Germans would be interested in killing the Jews.

In World War II they actually had a quasi-justification (not a good one, but they had their own reason).

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by goMac

There are also American part's in Arab missiles. Does this mean we're Jew haters?
c) Just stop. Stop now.

Show me

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by goMac

Please tell me why the Germans would be interested in killing the Jews.

In World War II they actually had a quasi-justification (not a good one, but they had their own reason).

Sheesh, I don't know. They invented a reason 2 generations ago (really 1.5), I would think they could/ will invent one today. <Maybe you should ask that question to the growing number of neo-nazis in Germany today.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by notloc_D

not really, I didn;t say what I really wanted to say.

HOw you doing Karl, its been a while.

I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in, or good at, playing guessing games. Do I know you?

[stevesnj]

The US is the most dangerous nation

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by KarlG

I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in, or good at, playing guessing games. Do I know you?

Read his name backwards.

[notloc_D]

Ahh. logic, the wise one. Shoosh though, I am incognito!

[Athens]

I vote the United States of America.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by von Wrangell

Read his name backwards.

Thank you. That explains everything.

[ebuddy]

Humans are imperialistic by nature. There is no nation exempt from this rule. The only hinderance to this nature is lacking the resources to facilitate it's agenda. Why the lack of resources? Failed leadership founded on governing principles that do not work.

There are a host of dangerous nations, US included. Why? Because we have resources. This world will come to a head of ideals among nations with resources. You can sit back and wait for someone else to attain those resources and bring their ideals to you, or you can take steps today that position you and your ideal more effectively on the globe. It's unfortunate, but you cannot expect humankind to do anything else. Anyone in the US who believes there is nothing to be concerned about, who would like to see us harken back to a time of isolationism fail to see even one step ahead of where they are today. Each nation interested in bolstering their economy and their ideal will do what they can, will sell what they want, to whomever they want, and parts will be exchanged among them in the interest of attaining the resources they want to facilitate their agenda. Germany is no danger, but they're no exception either.

If you're not growing, you're dying. The US is growing and it's ideals are spreading. You may not like this, but you have other alternatives. I might be a smidgen biased, but I happen to believe those alternatives offer more failure than success.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by KarlG

Thank you. That explains everything.

I didn't notice that. I love a good word-scramble.

[Buckaroo]

Germany is not currently any threat to the world at all.

The Kuran is the biggest threat to the world.

[notloc_D]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Germany is not currently any threat to the world at all.

The Kuran is the biggest threat to the world.

Exactly, and germany would be arming the followers of the Koran these days.

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Germany is not currently any threat to the world at all.

The Kuran is the biggest threat to the world.

If their spurning is hard on thy mind, yet if thou wert able to seek a tunnel in the ground or a ladder to the skies and bring them a sign,- (what good?). If it were Allah's will, He could gather them together unto true guidance: so be not thou amongst those who are swayed by ignorance (and impatience)!

Surah 6:35