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Hizballah Declares Victory in Lebanon
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Aug 11, 2006, 07:04 AM
 
August 11, 2006

Hizballah declares victory

While the US and France are reportedly close to an agreement again on a UN resolution that would aim to end hostilities between Israel and Hizballah, Al-Manar reminds us again that such a ceasefire, with Hizballah still functional, will be seized upon in jihadist propaganda as a sign of a foundering State of Israel. That will only embolden mujahedin everywhere, but especially in Iran, Syria, the West Bank, and Gaza. From YNet News: "Hizbullah declares victory"

Hizbullah did not wait for the official UN Security Council announcement on a ceasefire and launched its own media campaign declaring it had 'won the war against Israel.'

In the latest video aired on Al-Manar TV the terror group says it “defeated the invincible army” and “July-August 2006: Legend shattered.”

The new video clips show thousands of supporters waving Hizbullah and Lebanon flags.
These clips, which are aired between regularly-scheduled programs, include excerpts from Hassan Nasrallah speeches in which he had promised victory; similar videos were aired during the IDF’s withdrawal from Lebanon in May 2000.

Meanwhile, the Lebanese government is preparing for war’s conclusion; Prime Minister Fouad Siniora met with Lebanese Parliament Speaker Nabi Berri to discuss the deployment of the army in the south. Some reports said a Hizbullah member also took part in the meeting, but Berri’s associates denied the reports.

And while the Lebanese government is "preparing for the war's conclusion," Haaretz provides a revealing look at the actual state of the Lebanese army, and its prospects for controlling Hizballah in "The Lebanese Army / 60,000 soldiers not really looking for work":

The Lebanese Army is not trained to serve as a professional military force. It functions as a fine and efficient police force and knows how to disperse demonstrations. It can even detain hashish growers in the Bekaa and fire ancient cannons at planes, but "if required to wage war on the ground, it is best to invite another army," explains a Lebanese military commentator.

"The Lebanese Army can operate inside the nation only if all political forces allow it to operate. If it becomes necessary to contend with armed militias within the country - and Hezbollah, the Palestinians, and the Druze possess such forces - the army might have a problem, not only with fire power but mainly with entangled loyalties."
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The psychological war goes on even if they are losing. In peacetime or war.

Islam’s goal is to conquer the entire world, all of humankind, by force if necessary, to set up Koranic law, convert as many people to Islam as possible, and to destroy polytheism and disbelief.
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Aug 11, 2006, 07:36 AM
 
You know the old saying about a double negative becoming a positive, but a double positive not doing the converse? That's wrong. Here's an example that fits your post's subject:
Yeah, right!
Whatever the blowhards from this politicoterror group want to say doesn't change the facts. They must have taken lessons from Sadam's old Information Minister, whom the media nicknamed "Baghdad Bob." Saying something doesn't make it so.
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Aug 11, 2006, 08:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter
You know the old saying about a double negative becoming a positive, but a double positive not doing the converse? That's wrong. Here's an example that fits your post's subject:

Whatever the blowhards from this politicoterror group want to say doesn't change the facts. They must have taken lessons from Sadam's old Information Minister, whom the media nicknamed "Baghdad Bob." Saying something doesn't make it so.
You know the feeling you had the very first time you set foot in a foreign country?

Where EVERYTHING was at least just a little different, or in some cases REALLY DIFFERENT?

Like in Mexico they have payphones but they aren't like ours. But no big deal. Then the dial tone is different and the coins you drop in there are different and make a different noise and so on.

Well, the impression I get is that the media is SO VERY MUCH DIFFERENT in the Middle East it skews the perceptions of all who are subjected to it for any length of time, especially if they grow up with it.

They have an agenda just like our media has an agenda or agendas.

Where ours might be said to push products my belief is that the Palestinian agenda is to wage war.

And the various facets of their agenda play out in shows and snippets or features glorifying martyrs, or condemning Israel, or justifying the righteousness of their cause, or programming islamic based hatred into the population and motivating people to rise up in jihad and so on.

And to serve their agenda the popular media regularly twist the truth, such as we noticed the Reuters photographer had done. But my impression is the media manipulates the news message and the people as a common practice in the M.E.

So when you read, for example, a post here at MacNN's P/L from someone who distrusts a media source and looks for another hidden agenda behind anything that anyone in the news does or any news source that another poster might present, you know that poster might have a long history of being lied to and despite their best efforts to get at the truth through extreme scepticism, they STILL have been left with a skewed perspective from never knowing what to trust.

Think of inner city kids who've been made wards of the court and are in the system and how suspicious they are when you tell them anything. It's because they are often lied to by their parent(s) who have, let's say, issues.

Well, back to the point, the people of the region have to trust SOMETHING and emotions beg to be believed. And in an under educated population the language of emotions is enough to serve the purpose of those with agendas.

We have won! Yay!!!

That's all they need.

They now have the motivation and momentum needed to fuel the next round of martyrs.

We know it's not true but they want to believe it is.

That's all that matters.

It's like they can take a sow's ear and make it not only a silk purse, they can turn that ear into an I.E.D.
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