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Racism: a meaningless concept?
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I hear this word thrown about discriminantly on NN and elsewhere, and I've noticed that it actually has no meaning, apart from being an insult you lob at an opposing group.
The word racist came into usage during mid 20th century to describe an act of discrimination by a white person against a non-white person, such as the policies of segregated America, apartheid South Africa, and Nazi racial theories.
Nowadays it means nothing. The concept of race has been largely done away with, and conflicts between races are generally considered to be sectarian or religious struggles. But people still throw around the word racist as though it carries any weight.
You can label a white person racist for just about anything. If he presumes to have some knowledge of black culture, he is racist. If he says something about Islam, he is racist. If he opposes the Iraq war on the grounds that Iraq is not ready for democracy, he is racist. It goes on and on.
If you make the charge that indo-european Shi'ites are being racist against their semitic Arab neighbors, that charge would carry no weight even thought it is true.
So isn't it a bit "racist" to have a word which describes and demonizes the behaviour of white people, while exempting everyone else?
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If there weren't any white men to blame for society's troubles - then people would have to blame themselves.
And that ain't gonna happen.
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White pride = racist.
Can't have no white caucus.
Can't have no White Defamation League.
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Can't have WET television either (White Entertainment Television) like they have BET.
I agree 100%.
Whites will soon be a minority (in some places already are) and what I want to know is this: Are whites going to get all the breaks then?
Somehow I don't think so.
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I think at that point, white Christians will be in the same position as Jews. People will be split on whether or not to grant them status of a true minority, and they'll be blamed for controlling all the wealth and starting wars.
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You're absolutely correct.
I remember reading somewhere once that by 2050 that the majority of Americans will be brunette and have brown eyes, also, because of ethnic/racial intermarriages.
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I think certain people have weakened the impact of the term, but I don't think racism is meaninless.
Racism is hopefully wakening just like the term. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It does.
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I once wrote a paper on racism - that it is genetically imprinted and therefore hard to overcome.
The fact is that people tend to group themselves according to physical characteristics. I believe that this started long ago. Certain attributes were desirable. I think that this is evident especially in Germanic tribes. Whether physical characteristics were selected or developed as a matter of environment (or both) is a matter of debate, certainly. I think that physical characteristics were selected as a matter OF the environment - which was part of my thesis.
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Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
I once wrote a paper on racism - that it is genetically imprinted and therefore hard to overcome.
Prejudice may run in the family - handed down generation to generation. But I can't buy into it being genetic.
And racism can't be genetic - racism requires the power to opress another person based on their race.
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
I hear this word thrown about discriminantly on NN and elsewhere, and I've noticed that it actually has no meaning, apart from being an insult you lob at an opposing group.
The word racist came into usage during mid 20th century to describe an act of discrimination by a white person against a non-white person, such as the policies of segregated America, apartheid South Africa, and Nazi racial theories.
Nowadays it means nothing. The concept of race has been largely done away with, and conflicts between races are generally considered to be sectarian or religious struggles. But people still throw around the word racist as though it carries any weight.
You can label a white person racist for just about anything. If he presumes to have some knowledge of black culture, he is racist. If he says something about Islam, he is racist. If he opposes the Iraq war on the grounds that Iraq is not ready for democracy, he is racist. It goes on and on.
If you make the charge that indo-european Shi'ites are being racist against their semitic Arab neighbors, that charge would carry no weight even thought it is true.
So isn't it a bit "racist" to have a word which describes and demonizes the behaviour of white people, while exempting everyone else?
Racism is not a concept owned by white people. Racism is the denial that there is no race, and it is something that happens on a daily basis.
You denying it does not mean it does not happen.
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Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
You're absolutely correct.
I remember reading somewhere once that by 2050 that the majority of Americans will be brunette and have brown eyes, also, because of ethnic/racial intermarriages.
Now that is a symptom of a healthy egalitarian society, if that happens, of course.
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
I think at that point, white Christians will be in the same position as Jews. People will be split on whether or not to grant them status of a true minority, and they'll be blamed for controlling all the wealth and starting wars.
Yeah.
How terrible to be on the other side of the fence after 500 years of domination!
Shake in your pants baby! Shake like Hell!!!
You're doomed!
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BTW I also think fascism has become basically the same as racism. It was a useful word half a century ago to describe different movements but today it is simply what you call people who oppose you.
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
BTW I also think fascism has become basically the same as racism. It was a useful word half a century ago to describe different movements but today it is simply what you call people who oppose you.
Sure, especially when the discussion is reduced to black-white/right-left/good-evil.
Political correctedness need to expanded in political discussions.
"Fascism" needs be translated into "in need of control"
"Totalitarianism" into "in need of a lot of control"
"Racist" into "Egalitarianistically challenged" or "Prone to differentiate unfairly"
"War" as "process of achieving Peace"
"Terrorism" as "Psychosis"
"Foreign policy" as "Economical expansion through Globalisation".
"Pollution" into "Environmentally challenged"
Of course, the death of civilians is a "necessary sacrifice to Peace".
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
Of course, the death of civilians is a "necessary sacrifice to Peace".
That's funny I thought the death of civilians belonged with terrorism. 
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Originally Posted by Mithras
Like "Islamic Fascists"?
Ya, it's the same as saying "Naughty Muslim Men" or "Islamic D1ckheads"... the word is just thrown about until it becomes a catch-all insult.
I typed in "define fascist" into Google and got this definition, which sums up my point:
The word "fascist" ( or "fascism") is sometimes used to denigrate persons, institutions or groups that would not describe themselves as fascist and that do not fall within the formal definition of the word. As a political epithet it has been applied to persons and groups on the extreme left, the extreme right and most points in between. ...
So in that regard it has a lot in common with "racist".
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
Ya, it's the same as saying "Naughty Muslim Men" or "Islamic D1ckheads"... the word is just thrown about until it becomes a catch-all insult.
I typed in "define fascist" into Google and got this definition, which sums up my point:
The word "fascist" ( or "fascism") is sometimes used to denigrate persons, institutions or groups that would not describe themselves as fascist and that do not fall within the formal definition of the word. As a political epithet it has been applied to persons and groups on the extreme left, the extreme right and most points in between. ...
So in that regard it has a lot in common with "racist".
I think Islamic Fascist is a very acurate term for the Islamic terrorists and the like who seek world-wide superiority.
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I would say so too except that Islam has always been aggressively expansionist and overly controlling, long before fascism ever came about. So IMO Islam at its core is worse than fascism, and so the terms "Islamist" or "Islamic fundamentalist" are more fitting.
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
I would say so too except that Islam has always been aggressively expansionist and overly controlling, long before fascism ever came about. So IMO Islam at its core is worse than fascism, and so the terms "Islamist" or "Islamic fundamentalist" are more fitting.
Originally Posted by Webster's
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
While the term may have come about after the fact, the definition still fits. Most Islamic countries have at least a quasi-dictatorship, and the rest is pin-point accurate for the radical Islamic movement.
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
Alright fair enough
You mean I win???  
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Originally Posted by greenG4
That's funny I thought the death of civilians belonged with terrorism.
I was referring to this
Originally Posted by mojo2
You make a good point.
If global jihad and terrorism is likened to cancer and the war on terror is likened to radiation therapy, there is the unfortunate reality that some healthy tissue or innocent Muslims which might suffer in the treatment.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
I was just teasing.
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
I think at that point, white Christians will be in the same position as Jews. People will be split on whether or not to grant them status of a true minority, and they'll be blamed for controlling all the wealth and starting wars.
Most latinos are Catholic, so [i[white[/i] Christians will become a minority, but Christians won't. (Well, unless you equate Protestants with Christians )
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I'm starting to think that racism will have meaning as long as race has meaning. In order to bring it to an end, humanity is going to have to let go of this idea of race as some great important factor. I don't think most people are really prepared to do that.
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Originally Posted by Millennium
I'm starting to think that racism will have meaning as long as race has meaning. In order to bring it to an end, humanity is going to have to let go of this idea of race as some great important factor. I don't think most people are really prepared to do that.
An interesting thought. Now let me add this. A while back I saw a poll of various races in relation to how they define themselves. Most minorities saw their race as defining who they were, whil most whites did not. Does this mean racism is being spurred by the minorities that define themselves based off their race?
I will search for the actual poll and post if I find it.
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Originally Posted by greenG4
An interesting thought. Now let me add this. A while back I saw a poll of various races in relation to how they define themselves. Most minorities saw their race as defining who they were, whil most whites did not. Does this mean racism is being spurred by the minorities that define themselves based off their race?
I will search for the actual poll and post if I find it.
Put it another way - maybe minorities define themselves by their race because they have been defined by their race by the majority?
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Originally Posted by davesimondotcom
Put it another way - maybe minorities define themselves by their race because they have been defined by their race by the majority?
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
1: Judge not, that you be not judged. 2: For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. 3: Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4: Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? 5: You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. (Matthew 7:1-5)
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8/12/06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists shoot a policeman in the back as he is leaving his house.
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8/10/06 India Pattan 1 2 The Mujahideen gun down a civilian and injure his wife and neighbor.
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8/9/06 Pakistan Angoor Adda 1 0 An elderly man is shot to death by Islamic militants.
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8/8/06 Thailand Yala 1 0 A rubber tapper is murdered by Islamic terrorists.
8/8/06 Iraq Baghdad 15 0 Fifteen bodies are found by police from sectarian violence.
8/7/06 Iraq Baqubah 6 15 A senseless attack on a checkpoint by Sunni terrorists leaves at least six Iraqi soldiers dead.
8/7/06 Pakistan Garhiyoum 1 0 A tribal leader is abducted and beheaded by Muslim extremists.
8/7/06 India Donipawa 1 0 A civilian is abducted and murdered by the Mujahideen.
8/7/06 Russia Karachaevsk 1 0 A local Imam is gunned down by Islamists for performing healing.
8/7/06 Iraq Fallujah 6 2 Six civilians are killed when Sunni terrorists set off a bomb by the side of a road.
8/7/06 Iraq Khalis 4 7 Terrorists blow up a minibus, killing four civilians..
8/7/06 Afghanistan Daigh 2 0 A 70-year-old woman and her 13-year-old grandson are pulled from their home and hanged by the Taliban.
8/6/06 Israel Kfar Giladi 12 14 Hezbollah successfully hits a gathering of people in a community, killing twelve Israelis.
8/6/06 India Sopore 1 17 A woman is killed when Islamic terrorists lob a grenade into the street.
8/6/06 Iraq Baghdad 16 0 Police discover sixteen victims of sectarian violence in two location in the country. Women were among the dead.
8/6/06 Israel Haifa 3 189 A crowded residential area is the target of Hezbollah rockets. An Israeli woman is among three dead.
8/6/06 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 52-year-old Buddhist civilian is gunned down by Muslims.
8/6/06 Thailand Tala 1 0 A rubber plantation worker is machine-gunned to death by Islamic radicals.
8/6/06 Iraq Tikrit 15 22 Fifteen mourners at a funeral are slaughtered by a suicide bomber.
1: Judge not, that you be not judged. 2: For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. 3: Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4: Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? 5: You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. (Matthew 7:1-5)
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Cry to those using babies
By Naomi Ragen
My son is in the army. He is not the type at all, believe me. Quiet, studious, a writer, a lover of Jewish history, Talmud, ethics. He spent two years in a pre-army program in the Galilee called Karmei Hayil. He made many good friends there from all over the country, and now he and all his friends are in the army.
One of them I know well. A bit chubby, with payot (sidelocks) and a great laugh. He and my son have become like brothers. While both of them tried out for the elite paratroopers unit, only his friend made it in. He and his unit are the ones in Lebanon. They were there over a week, fighting under horrific conditions, running out of food and water. Even though the Israel Air Force dropped tons of leaflets warning civilians to flee because they were in terrorist territory and likely to be injured, they still encountered civilians.
My son spoke to his friend yesterday, and this is how he described it: "The village looked empty, and then we heard noises coming from one of the houses, so we opened fire. But when we went inside, we found two women and a child huddled in the corner of the room. We were so relieved we hadn't hurt them. We took up base in one of the empty houses. And then all of a sudden, we came under intense fire. Three rockets were fired at the house we were in. Only one managed to destroy a wall, which fell on one of us, covering him in white dust, but otherwise not hurting him.
"I spent the whole time feeding bullets to my friend who was shooting nonstop. We managed to kill 26 terrorists. Not one of us was hurt. Our commanding officer kept walking around, touching everybody on the shoulder, smiling and encouraging us: 'We're are better than they are. Don't worry.' It calmed us all down. And really, we were much better than them. They are a lousy army. They only win when they hide behind baby carriages."
Please remember this when you hear about the "atrocity" of the Israeli bomb that killed many civilians in Kafr Qana, a place from which Hezbollah has fired hundreds of rockets at Israel. Unlike previous administrations, Mr. Olmert has my respect when he says: "They were warned to leave. It is the responsibility of Hezbollah for firing rockets amid civilians."
Terrorists and their supporters have lost the right to complain about civilian casualties, since all they have is one goal: this entire war is to target civilians. Every single one of the more than 2,500 rockets launched into Israel, is launched into populated towns filled with women and children. Just today, another explosive belt meant to kill civilians in Israel was detonated harmlessly by our forces in Nablus.
So don't cry to me about civilian casualties. Cry to those using babies and wives and mothers; cry to those who store weapons in mosques, ambulances, hospitals and private homes. Cry to those launching deadly rockets from the backyards of kindergartens and schools. Cry to the heartless men who love death, and however many of their troops or civilians die, consider themselves victorious as long as they can keep on firing rockets at our women and children.
Save your sympathy for the mothers and sisters and girlfriends of our young soldiers who would rather be sitting in study halls learning Torah, but have no choice but to risk their precious lives full of hope, goodness and endless potential, to wipe out the cancerous terrorist cells that threaten their people and all mankind. Make your choice, and save your tears.
That terrorists have been unsuccessful in killing more of our women and children is due to our army, God and prayers, not to any lack of motivation or intention on their part. If you hide behind your baby to shoot at my baby, you are responsible for getting children killed. You and you alone.
The writer is an American-born novelist and playwright who lives in Jerusalem.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/744436.html
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Originally Posted by mojo2
Well, that excerpt certainly does exemplify the problems of racism, xenophobia, and nationalism at the root of that conflict.
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To quote Quark from Deep Space 9:
"I have a dream - a dream that one day all people - humans, Jem'Hadar, Ferengi, Cardassians - will stand together in peace..............around my Dabo tables." 
Forget race. Get drunk. Play Dabo.
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Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
Can't have WET television either (White Entertainment Television) like they have BET.
I agree 100%.
Whites will soon be a minority (in some places already are) and what I want to know is this: Are whites going to get all the breaks then?
Somehow I don't think so.
This is just beyond silly. Individuals such as yourself get so worked up over the name of a black or minority oriented institution and point out that a similarly named white institution would be viewed as racist. But the thing is that you totally ignore the historical reality that led to the creation of the black or minority oriented institution in the first place. The fact of the matter is that in the early 1980s MTV (Music Television) was not that despite the name, because based upon its programming practices it would have been more accurate to call it WMT (White Music Television) since it only showed rock and top 40 pop acts. Urban acts (hip hop and R&B) were practically non-existent during that time outside of the occasional Michael Jackson or Prince video. It was for this reason that Robert Johnson saw an opportunity to build his own cable channel that targeted the musical tastes of the 18-35 year old African-American demographic ... rather than beg MTV to accommodate the African-American audience. And he called his venture exactly what it was ... Black Entertainment Television. And clearly there was a market considering how he eventually sold it to Viacom for 3 billion dollars and became the first black billionaire in the process.
Similar stories can be told regarding the origin of black colleges, the Negro Baseball leagues, black scholarship funds, black unions, etc. The common thread among all of them was that they were a reaction to exclusion by white institutions. It doesn't matter whether or not the white institutions had "white" in the name .... given their practices they were de facto just that.
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so you agree that there would be a outcry if somebody started a station named WET.
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Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy
so you agree that there would be a outcry if somebody started a station named WET.
The fundamental flaw in your premise is that you ask the question as if the two scenarios are equivalent. And the fact of the matter is that they are not. The white majority in the USA already has White Entertainment Television (WET) .... it's called network television ... and cable/satellite tv. Essentially, anything outside of BET, TVOne, and Univision is programming geared toward and catered to the "mass market" (which is a nice little euphemism for "white") audience. Such programming has traditionally been a whitewash, but in recent years one does manage to see a sprinkling of diversity on screen on some shows, but behind the scenes (i.e., camera operators, writers, directors, producers, etc.) is still essentially a bastion of whiteness. This is the reality, so the fundamental question that arises is ....
What would be the purpose of a White Entertainment Television (WET)?
The television industry already caters almost entirely to the majority white audience, so what would be the point of such a name other than to be explicitly exclusionary? You see unlike African-Americans, Hispanics, and Asians ... white Americans don't have a history of being underrepresented in Hollywood ... or being consistently represented in demeaning, degrading, and stereotypical ways in those instances when they were depicted on screen. So simply put, there is no legitimate need for a WET as there was for a BET. And this is why there would be an outcry about the former and not the latter.
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Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy
so you agree that there would be a outcry if somebody started a station named WET.
Maybe it would help if they featured 8 hours a day of WET T-Shirt contests along with a few hours of a COPS styled show where real white hate group (Neo-Nazi & KKK) members are arrested for breaking the law.
If WET did what we all want moderate Muslims to do, carve out a middle position which the mainstream population can feel good about, then WET would have a large following.
Let's not underestimate the importance of the WET T-Shirt contests.
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Originally Posted by Nicko
Well, that excerpt certainly does exemplify the problems of racism, xenophobia, and nationalism at the root of that conflict.
Oh, I can see your point. But whenever someone begins talking about the innocent Muslim civilians caught up in this war which was started and is perpetuated by Israel's opponents, I think it's helpful to provide a balanced view.
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Originally Posted by mojo2
Oh, I can see your point. But whenever someone begins talking about the innocent Muslim civilians caught up in this war which was started and is perpetuated by Israel's opponents, I think it's helpful to provide a balanced view.
It would have been a balanced view if you had added all similar crimes committed by Jews.
But you have not, so it is not balanced, which was my point from the start.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
It would have been a balanced view if you had added all similar crimes committed by Jews.
But you have not, so it is not balanced, which was my point from the start.
Israel rightfully and legally belongs to the Zionists. Everyone who violently objects is in violation of the law and all the deaths come from their refusal to accept the legal decisions.
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Originally Posted by mojo2
Israel rightfully and legally belongs to the Zionists. Everyone who violently objects is in violation of the law and all the deaths come from their refusal to accept the legal decisions.
Hows that?
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
Yeah.
How terrible to be on the other side of the fence after 500 years of domination!
Shake in your pants baby! Shake like Hell!!!
You're doomed!
Not quite that simple.
Let's not forget that racism doesn't just exist between white people degrading everyone else. I live in New York and I've heard blacks make extreme racist comments about hispanics and hispanics make nasty comments about Chinese people and on and on. Minorities can be racist toward one another at the same time white people are racist toward them.
I think minority groups do themselves a disservice by focusing their efforts soley on racist white people and demonizing them. Being a victim does not necessarily free you from also being a perpetrator.
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Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
You're absolutely correct.
I remember reading somewhere once that by 2050 that the majority of Americans will be brunette and have brown eyes, also, because of ethnic/racial intermarriages.
I read it on the internet, it MUST BE TRUE!!!
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How many people around here subscribe to the leftist radical definition of racism that states only the power class in society can be racist, and that less advantaged classes cannot be because they lack power?
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
Nowadays it means nothing. The concept of race has been largely done away with, and conflicts between races are generally considered to be sectarian or religious struggles.
In your dreams.
It may be thrown around in some circumstances in which it means nothing. That doesn't mean it carries no weight elsewhere.
The concept is far from being done away with. Ever been through an entire city?
A lot more time needs to pass and work needs to be done before racism disappears.
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Originally Posted by mojo2
Israel rightfully and legally belongs to the Zionists. Everyone who violently objects is in violation of the law and all the deaths come from their refusal to accept the legal decisions.
Care for making an nice list like you did for the Muslim?
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Originally Posted by Zeeb
Not quite that simple.
Let's not forget that racism doesn't just exist between white people degrading everyone else. I live in New York and I've heard blacks make extreme racist comments about hispanics and hispanics make nasty comments about Chinese people and on and on. Minorities can be racist toward one another at the same time white people are racist toward them.
I think minority groups do themselves a disservice by focusing their efforts soley on racist white people and demonizing them. Being a victim does not necessarily free you from also being a perpetrator.
I was merily cynical. You are right: racism does not belong to a race. It is a human thing commonly shared amongst humans.
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
How many people around here subscribe to the leftist radical definition of racism that states only the power class in society can be racist, and that less advantaged classes cannot be because they lack power?
Now, that is one loaded question.
See Zeeb's post on racism, and my reply.
The "leftist radical definition of racism that states only the power class in society can be racist" is false.
The right affirmation is: "leftist radical definition of racism that states the power class in society can be racist".
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ouch.
We know you're a world reknowned expert on the subject of stupidity.
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