[Buckaroo]

These suspected terorists had over a 1000 prepaid cell phones in their rental vehicle.

They claim they were just trying to make some money selling them. HA. I suspect that these phones with preloaded minutes would have over $100,000 to buy these phones. They were opening the packages up and sorting out the batteries in one box and the cell phones in another. I heard they were going to throw away the chargers.



http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_arti...?storyid=59411




Federal authorities helped with the investigation into a possible terror threat to the Mackinac Bridge. The FBI office in Detroit worked with local law enforcement authorities before the police arrested three men in Caro on Friday. Officers found about 1,000 pre-paid cell phones in their van. Police in Caro arrested the three Palestinian-American men after they allegedly bought 80 of the phones at a Wal-Mart store in Caro.

A pre-paid cell phone can be economical and convenient. But, 22 year old Adham Othman, 23 year old Louai Othman, and 19 year old Maruwan Muhareb aroused suspicion when they allegedly bought 80 phones at the same time. Caro Police Chief Ben Page said they thought “something was wrong here."

When police pulled the men over, they found about 1,000 phones in the van. Many were separated from their battery packs and the chargers were discarded. Michigan State Police Trooper Patrick Sharkey says, “We didn't know exactly what was going on. You hear on the news about these phones being used to detonate IED's."

Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark Reene says, “There were a thousand cell phones that were inside one motor vehicle. There's a laptop computer. There's a camera and there are things that are still being investigated at this point in time. Based on information received from a variety of agencies, we're developing how the actual headphones were sold, revenue was passed from one location to the next. Obviously, it's fairly complex." He thinks the men had a complex plan to attack the Mackinac Bridge.

However, the men, who are from Texas, say they simply purchase the cell phones, and resell them for more money. Louai Othman's wife Lina Odeh says he was simply trying to support her and their two-month old daughter. Odeh says, “Their goal in Michigan was to buy as many phones as they could so they could make a profit over here."

The men allegedly traveled to several states to buy pre-paid cell phones, despite policies at many stores limiting purchases to two or three phones at a time. Police in Wisconsin say these three men also bought phones in their state. A clerk who helped them says she suspected something fishy. Barb Bessert, a clerk at a Dollar General store, says, “When they buy more than a couple. Because they are 20 dollars apiece. So, that's like 80 bucks. But, they don't buy the minutes for it. Just the phone."

But, Othman's wife says this is a common business, and her husband is only being targeted because of his nationality. Odeh says, “There's nothing wrong with it. I don't know why they're making a big deal out of it. Are ya'll making a big deal out of this because all the Arabs are doing it?"

Two of the men are brothers, and the third is their cousin.

The three are scheduled to appear in court again on Friday. They are accused of "providing material support for terrorism and obtaining information of a vulnerable target for the purposes of terrorism."

[idjeff]

I guess I don't see the connection to terrorism here...strange suspicion

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by idjeff

I guess I don't see the connection to terrorism here...strange suspicion

Federal authorities helped with the investigation into a possible terror threat to the Mackinac Bridge. The FBI office in Detroit worked with local law enforcement authorities before the police arrested three men in Caro on Friday. Officers found about 1,000 pre-paid cell phones in their van. Police in Caro arrested the three Palestinian-American men after they allegedly bought 80 of the phones at a Wal-Mart store in Caro.

A pre-paid cell phone can be economical and convenient. But, 22 year old Adham Othman, 23 year old Louai Othman, and 19 year old Maruwan Muhareb aroused suspicion when they allegedly bought 80 phones at the same time. Caro Police Chief Ben Page said they thought “something was wrong here."

When police pulled the men over, they found about 1,000 phones in the van. Many were separated from their battery packs and the chargers were discarded. Michigan State Police Trooper Patrick Sharkey says, “We didn't know exactly what was going on. You hear on the news about these phones being used to detonate IED's."

Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark Reene says, “There were a thousand cell phones that were inside one motor vehicle. There's a laptop computer. There's a camera and there are things that are still being investigated at this point in time. Based on information received from a variety of agencies, we're developing how the actual headphones were sold, revenue was passed from one location to the next. Obviously, it's fairly complex." He thinks the men had a complex plan to attack the Mackinac Bridge.

However, the men, who are from Texas, say they simply purchase the cell phones, and resell them for more money. Louai Othman's wife Lina Odeh says he was simply trying to support her and their two-month old daughter. Odeh says, “Their goal in Michigan was to buy as many phones as they could so they could make a profit over here."

The men allegedly traveled to several states to buy pre-paid cell phones, despite policies at many stores limiting purchases to two or three phones at a time. Police in Wisconsin say these three men also bought phones in their state. A clerk who helped them says she suspected something fishy. Barb Bessert, a clerk at a Dollar General store, says, “When they buy more than a couple. Because they are 20 dollars apiece. So, that's like 80 bucks. But, they don't buy the minutes for it. Just the phone."

But, Othman's wife says this is a common business, and her husband is only being targeted because of his nationality. Odeh says, “There's nothing wrong with it. I don't know why they're making a big deal out of it. Are ya'll making a big deal out of this because all the Arabs are doing it?"

Two of the men are brothers, and the third is their cousin.

The three are scheduled to appear in court again on Friday. They are accused of "providing material support for terrorism and obtaining information of a vulnerable target for the purposes of terrorism."

Why wouldn't the end buyers just buy the phones themselves?
Why wouldn't these jokers buy pre-paid cards?
Why would they discard the battery packs and chargers?
Why wouldn't these guys buy wholesale?

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

I'd also like to know what the plan was supposed to be. Not saying it wasn't terrorism, but how exactly were they going to attack a bridge with cell phones? Bombard it with annoyingly loud jabber? Can one make a bomb out of cell phone batteries? There have simply got to be easier to get bomb materials, and easier ways to make one.

Or were they to provide communication for 1,000 terrorists??

edit: ahh, didn't see the IED part before. So where are the IEDs themselves?

[black bear theory]

i'm not sure that just re-pasting the article will satisfy ldjeff's question. though this seems to be the crux of moho's argument:

ou hear on the news about these phones being used to detonate IED's.

... in iraq. though i've thought to myself that an IED going off in america would severely affect rush-hour traffic and the nat'l economy.

[hyteckit]

LiOn battery bombs. See Dell laptops.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by black bear theory

... in iraq. though i've thought to myself that an IED going off in america would severely affect rush-hour traffic and the nat'l economy.

It would in essence just be a planned car crash, wouldn't it? Accidental car crashes happen all the time in rush hour traffic.

[black bear theory]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

It would in essence just be a planned car crash, wouldn't it? Accidental car crashes happen all the time in rush hour traffic.

i guess... no one plans for a deliberate car crash though. the difference being accidental != deliberate.

who knows? it was just an idle thought i had a couple years ago. i always thought it would cause jitters, but you're far more likely to die in a car accident (deliberate or not) than a terrorist act...

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by black bear theory

i guess... no one plans for a deliberate car crash though. the difference being accidental != deliberate.

Yeah, I'm just saying, our economy proves every day to be able to withstand bad traffic. The fact that the traffic was created deliberately rather than accidentally wouldn't change the effect that much. It's a bit like somebody trying to bring down MacNN by corrupting the database.

[black bear theory]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Yeah, I'm just saying, our economy proves every day to be able to withstand bad traffic. The fact that the traffic was created deliberately rather than accidentally wouldn't change the effect that much. It's a bit like somebody trying to bring down MacNN by corrupting the database.

AFAIK, the 9/11 attacks did have an effect on air travel, though an event of that magnitude (any terrorism act for that matter) was hardly likely to happen again after the fact. though, it did have an effect.

though i guess the fault in my thinking is that air-travel is far less common than car-travel, and the health of businesses (in this case airlines) is based more on subjective market speculation than the automotive market aka you are your own pilot in your car...

[goMac]

I'm inclined to believe the guys. Here's why.

It doesn't take a thousand freakin cell phones to blow up a bridge.

[Landos Mustache]

How in the world did they jump to the conclusion that they wanted to blow up a bridge?

Did they find explosives? Maps? Plans?

[OreoCookie]

Eeeeh, I still don't understand. If you want to blow up a bridge, I don't think you'll hide the explosives in 1000 cell phones in your trunk, then drive up to the bridge and detonate these 1000 cell phones with the 1001st

Perhaps they were planning a scam selling the phones, but I don't see the connection to blowing up the bridge.

[spacefreak]

This article doesn't state it, but in their van these men had a bunch of surveillance photos and video of the bridge. There was also a laptop that contained data, though I haven't seen any more details regarding that.

I guess it seems odd that 3 Middle Eastern men who reside in Texas - that for a getaway they'd drive up to Michigan buying 1000 prepaid phones and taking photos and video of one specific bridge.

[vmarks]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE

I'd also like to know what the plan was supposed to be. Not saying it wasn't terrorism, but how exactly were they going to attack a bridge with cell phones? Bombard it with annoyingly loud jabber? Can one make a bomb out of cell phone batteries? There have simply got to be easier to get bomb materials, and easier ways to make one.

Or were they to provide communication for 1,000 terrorists??

edit: ahh, didn't see the IED part before. So where are the IEDs themselves?

Cellphones have been used to detonate bombs for years. The Palestinians were doing it in Israel. They learned it from the IRA (Irish Republican Army.)

The phones are not the explosives. They simply are the detonator that ignites the explosives. Cheap, easy to control by remote. The only way to defend against this technique is to shut down the cell phone network, and that isn't going to happen long-term.


If they had planted a thousand bombs on the bridge, used the computer to ring them all to detonate them, it might not have taken down the bridge, but it would definitely have caused deaths.

(How can you use a computer to ring a thousand cell phones? Script Skype or other VoIP client.)

The men are from Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the group that works in concert with HAMAS in performing homicide bombings in Israel. The group once even considered merging with HAMAS, at the time that it was headed by University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian, a founder of the group.

Sources say the plot was uncovered because law enforcement personnel observed two or more other men videotaping the Mackinac Bridge.

Palestinian terrorism is not just Israel’s problem. It’s America’s.

[Landos Mustache]

Originally Posted by spacefreak

This article doesn't state it, but in their van these men had a bunch of surveillance photos and video of the bridge.

Why in the world was that not mentioned in the story?

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Why in the world was that not mentioned in the story?

Sometimes, reporters and journalists leave things out - either on purpose or inadvertantly. That's why I never base my judgement on just a single article, unlike so many others.

Here's an article that mentions some of this...

Police seized a laptop computer from the men, claiming it contains evidence related to the case.

Another article here...

The men had video and still photos of the bridge in their possession at the time of their arrest in Caro.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by spacefreak

Sometimes, reporters and journalists leave things out - either on purpose or inadvertantly. That's why I never base my judgement on just a single article, unlike so many others.

Here's an article that mentions some of this...

Another article here...

Yet the police can't tell us there is any evidence on the laptop. And the can't prove any photos of the bridge are terror related. And they can't tell us why these men would use a thousand cell phones to blow up a bridge.

Sounds like a small town police department looking for something to do. Ask yourself, why aren't the feds involved yet?

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by goMac

Yet the police can't tell us there is any evidence on the laptop. And the can't prove any photos of the bridge are terror related. And they can't tell us why these men would use a thousand cell phones to blow up a bridge.

Because it's an ongong investigation.

Originally Posted by goMac

Sounds like a small town police department looking for something to do. Ask yourself, why aren't the feds involved yet?

Who says the Feds aren't involved?

[OreoCookie]

Originally Posted by vmarks

Cellphones have been used to detonate bombs for years. The Palestinians were doing it in Israel. They learned it from the IRA (Irish Republican Army.)

Well, my imagination got that far. But you typically need only one trigger, not 1,000. I could also imagine they'd use the cellphones to kill people (e. g. leave the cellphone in a busy café and then you give yourself a call to trigger the bomb).

But a bridge?

Originally Posted by vmarks

The phones are not the explosives. They simply are the detonator that ignites the explosives. Cheap, easy to control by remote. The only way to defend against this technique is to shut down the cell phone network, and that isn't going to happen long-term.

Yes, sure, but 1,000?

Originally Posted by vmarks

If they had planted a thousand bombs on the bridge, used the computer to ring them all to detonate them, it might not have taken down the bridge, but it would definitely have caused deaths.

I'm no expert, but this doesn't sound like the most sensible way to blow up a bridge.

Originally Posted by vmarks

(How can you use a computer to ring a thousand cell phones? Script Skype or other VoIP client.)

How long would that take?

Sorry, but I think even if they were planning something, blowing up a bridge with 1,000 cell phones doesn't somehow fit the profile.

[Chuckit]

Any plan to blow up a bridge that requires a thousand cheap cell phones is probably doomed to failure anyway.

[Landos Mustache]

I'd like to see how ANYONE can get away with secretly rigging a bridge with 1000 explosive and cellphones.

[jckalen]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...015105,00.html

FBI: No Terror Groups in Cell Phone Case


Monday August 14, 2006 7:46 PM

CARO, Mich. (AP) - The FBI said Monday it had no information to indicate that the three Texas men arrested with about 1,000 cell phones in their van had any direct connection to known terrorist groups.

Authorities had increased patrols on Michigan's 5-mile-long Mackinac Bridge after local prosecutors said investigators believed the men were targeting the span.

Local authorities didn't say what they believed the men intended to do with the phones, most of which were prepaid TracFones, but Caro's police chief noted that cell phones can be untraceable and used as detonators.

The FBI issued a news release Monday saying there is no imminent threat to the bridge linking Michigan's upper and lower peninsulas.

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

I'd like to see how ANYONE can get away with secretly rigging a bridge with 1000 explosive and cellphones.

Or, like the other 2 guys busted for buying a massive amount of these phones - perhaps they were given a list specifying which phones to buy for someone else - ones with a certain untraceable chip.

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by jckalen

FBI: No Terror Groups in Cell Phone Case

And if I didn't want other potential co-conspriators to freak out, I'd say the same thing.

I'm not saying there are others, or that there is further investigation going on. But if there was, I would deny it to preserve the integrity of the investigation.

[jckalen]

Considering how quick they have been to broadcast as much information as possible about blowing up 10 airplanes, despite the fact they admit they might not have found everyone involved, you think this would be bigger news if there was much chance of it being a real busted terror plot.

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by jckalen

Considering how quick they have been to broadcast as much information as possible about blowing up 10 airplanes, despite the fact they admit they might not have found everyone involved, you think this would be bigger news if there was much chance of it being a real busted terror plot.

The 60,000 person walk across the bridge doesn't occur until Labor Day, so there's plenty of time to beef up security.

Also, with regards to the airplane plot, every traveler instantly had to go through major security checks. Hence, a lot more people were instantly affected. Also, the plotters were going to do a test run on August 16th, so it was our government's opinion that the time to act was now.

I simply stated that if I had an ongoing investigation that included these men, I wouldn't want this local police arrest to blow the entire investigation. Whether or not there is a larger investigation, I have no idea.

[medicineman]

I'm really curious how you can buy 1000 cell phones at retail, remove the packaging, instructions, battery and charger, then resell them for profit.

[spacefreak]

Don't forget to figure in travel expenses as part of the cost. Gas for a van ride from Texas to Michigan (and back) can't be cheap.

You'd think that to keep costs down (and increase margin), they'd have stayed local. Perhaps videotaping and photographing a bridge in Michigan was always a dream of theirs.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by vmarks

The phones are not the explosives. They simply are the detonator that ignites the explosives. Cheap, easy to control by remote. The only way to defend against this technique is to shut down the cell phone network, and that isn't going to happen long-term.

I figured it must be something like this, but I'm still curious about what they planned to use as the explosive part of the IEDs, and where are those? Are there still 1,000 improvised bombs out there waiting the next group to put them into place, or had they not assembled them yet?

It seems to me in this case, you'd surveil the guys and get more idea exactly what they were up to, and where the actual IED devices are, not just bust them with what amounts to detonators.

I too have to wonder, if this is indeed terrorism related, was it a premature bust? Or there simply must be a lot more information about the plot that no one outside the investigation is privy to yet.

[olePigeon]

Terrorists don't aim for Chuck Norris Bridge, Chuck Norris Bridge aims for them!

[RAILhead]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/14/D8JGC2I00.html

The FBI said Monday it had no information to indicate that the three Texas men arrested with about 1,000 cell phones in their van had any connections to a known terrorist group.

Authorities had increased patrols on Michigan's 5-mile-long Mackinac Bridge after local prosecutors said investigators believed the men were targeting the bridge.

Local authorities didn't say what they believe the men intended to do with the phones, most of which were prepaid TracFones, but Caro's police chief noted that cell phones can be untraceable and used as detonators.

The FBI issued a news release Monday saying there is no imminent threat to the bridge linking Michigan's upper and lower peninsulas and that has no information indicating that the men have any direct link to a terrorist group.

Adham Abdelhamid Othman, 21, of Dallas, and Maruan Awad Muhareb, 18, and Louai Abdelhamied Othman, 23, both of Mesquite, Texas, were stopped by police Friday outside a Wal-Mart store in Caro, about 80 miles north of Detroit after employees became suspicious when they purchased about 80 cell phones.

Local prosecutors charged them with collecting or providing materials for terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target for terrorist purposes.

Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark E. Reene said Monday that representatives of his office and Caro police had met with Sunday with officials from the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. attorney's office. He said all the agencies were working together on the investigation. He didn't say what led officials to believe the bridge might be a target.

[OreoCookie]

Makes a lot more sense. Perhaps they were providing funds … who knows. Or perhaps just a bunch of young kids trying to make a buck.

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

... Or perhaps just a bunch of young kids trying to make a buck.

In that case, there was really no need for them to drive across the country to find a Wal-Mart. There are plenty of Wal-Marts right by their homes in Texas. And with gas prices and all... seems to me they spent quite a few bucks just to make a buck.

[OreoCookie]

Well, the judiciary will deal with them now. A trial will determine their individual guilt and justice will be served.

<edit>Obviously, the judiciary deals with suspects. Thanks Tetenal. </edit>

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Well, the legislature will deal with them now.

No, it won't. They can not be punished with a law that was created after the deed ("Nulla poena sine lege"-principle).

[OreoCookie]

It should have read judiciary, my brain is totally warped.

[jckalen]

Even Fox is reporting "no indication of terror ties"...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208244,00.html

"The FBI issued a news release Monday saying there is no imminent threat to the bridge linking Michigan's upper and lower peninsulas and that has no information indicating that the men have any direct link to a terrorist group."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208129,00.html

"Odeh said the men were buying the phones to sell to a man in Dallas for a profit of about $5 per phone. She said they were in Michigan because so many people in the Dallas area are doing the same thing that the phones are often sold out.

"All we did is buy the phones to sell and make money," Louai Othman told the magistrate. He said authorities had previously stopped the group in North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin."

Now considering they were travelling around various northern states, could it be possible that they went from Wisconsin, thru Michigans Upper Peninsula, drove over the 5 mile long bridge and said "Cool!!! A Five mile long bridge! Let's take pictures!"?

Good thing they didn't go by Niagara Falls or they might've been accused of blowing them up too.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by goMac

. And they can't tell us why these men would use a thousand cell phones to blow up a bridge.

Set them on vibra alert, and there you go. It's like an earthquake

-t

[spacefreak]

And the way to maximize one's profit is not to buy them online, but rather drive across the country to a Wal-Mart in Michigan. And if one really wants to make a killing, discard the packaging and throw away the charger.

Who wouldn't want to buy a disassembled, unpackaged, incomplete phone for $5 more than it costs to buy the full retail package on Amazon?

And where's this "man in Dallas"? I'd think he would come forward and say "yes, these men were suppliers of mine".

I'm sure the investigators did a thorough job. I'm just not sure these guys have the proper business plan.

[tie]

These guys should be sent to Guantanamo ASAP. A little friendly interrogation should get the truth out them. When were they planning to bomb the bridge? Who was their liaison with Al Qaeda? How did Bin Laden funnel the money to them? Lots of questions for these terrorist scumbags.

[spacefreak]

Here we go... Motorola C139-4, available online from Wal-Mart for $19.99 (and in stock).

Fortunately for you folks, I have an unpackaged one without the battery charger. I'll let you have it for the discounted price of $38.00.

PM me for my PayPal info.

[spacefreak]

Some other young entrepreneurs...

A search of their vehicle led to the discovery of several phones and more than $11,000 in cash.

Mincks said the men first told police the phones were for a family construction business. He said Abulhassan and Houssaiky later admitted they were taking the microchips from the phones and selling them to an individual in Dearborn. That individual, whose name was not released, is the target of an ongoing FBI terrorist investigation, Mincks said...

“They’ve bought between 600 and 1,000 of these phones and they’ve giving phony names, had people poised as lookouts at businesses when they were buying them, and were evasive and lied when they were questioned about it by our officers.

[jckalen]

"Estimated Shipping Cost Based on lowest-cost shipping method available $4.97"

So much for any profit if they were making about $5.00 per phone buying them at cost.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by vmarks

Cellphones have been used to detonate bombs for years. The Palestinians were doing it in Israel. They learned it from the IRA (Irish Republican Army.)

The phones are not the explosives. They simply are the detonator that ignites the explosives. Cheap, easy to control by remote. The only way to defend against this technique is to shut down the cell phone network, and that isn't going to happen long-term.

If they had planted a thousand bombs on the bridge, used the computer to ring them all to detonate them, it might not have taken down the bridge, but it would definitely have caused deaths.

(How can you use a computer to ring a thousand cell phones? Script Skype or other VoIP client.)

The men are from Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the group that works in concert with HAMAS in performing homicide bombings in Israel. The group once even considered merging with HAMAS, at the time that it was headed by University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian, a founder of the group.

Sources say the plot was uncovered because law enforcement personnel observed two or more other men videotaping the Mackinac Bridge.

The deportation of Sami Al-Arian.
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...=Sami+Al-Arian


And in the event there proves to be no connection to terrorism, I think we all need to remember that if law enforcement had used this same, "safe rather than sorry" philosophy there might never have been a 9/11.

Originally Posted by vmarks

Palestinian terrorism is not just Israel’s problem. It’s America’s.

Indeed!

Obsession - Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9NVnFTOSh8

In this one, be sure to notice HizbAllah founder, Hassan Nasrallah, speaking to a crowd in Lebanon in 2005 shouting, "Death to America!" And in unity they return the cry, "Death to America!"

Obsession - Media of Terrorism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUBeq2FPBg

Obsession - Hitler & the Mufti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa5YoWM1fHE

Obsession - A Declaration of War Against the West
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s27Hk02KCps

[jckalen]

Incidentally, I don't recall seeing or reading any other news reports that the phones were unpackaged with the batteries in a separate box. I only recall reading that here. Feel free to post links - I could easily be mistaken on that point.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by jckalen

Incidentally, I don't recall seeing or reading any other news reports that the phones were unpackaged with the batteries in a separate box. I only recall reading that here. Feel free to post links - I could easily be mistaken on that point.

At this point you might question the poster or his source or the rest of the MSM or the sources you consume.

Who is accurate and including the relevant info and who isn't.

And why?

Are they competent, incompetent or exercising their bias?

[jckalen]

Well most of the info coming out now seems to indicate that there was no plan to blow up the bridge and that there is no association to terrorism, but I suppose they could be trying to give the terrorists a false sense of security so they'll continue plotting so they can catch them. I doubt it but I guess it's possible.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by tie

These guys should be sent to Guantanamo ASAP. A little friendly interrogation should get the truth out them. When were they planning to bomb the bridge? Who was their liaison with Al Qaeda? How did Bin Laden funnel the money to them? Lots of questions for these terrorist scumbags.

This has got to be satire.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by jckalen

Well most of the info coming out now seems to indicate that there was no plan to blow up the bridge and that there is no association to terrorism, but I suppose they could be trying to give the terrorists a false sense of security so they'll continue plotting so they can catch them. I doubt it but I guess it's possible.

Or...?