[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by smacintush

ok…So what's your point?

uh... the point was you don't see Christians posting "The way to Heaven" and "Jesus Saves". In fact, I dare say most threads referencing Christianity are done by those with a distaste for it. You know, if two posters were this concerned with one another we'd recommend they get a room.

They don't have to endure anything, they could ignore these threads.

You misunderstand, I personally put up with it because in some cases these threads are actually eye-opening. Hence, the Addicted to MacNN "accomplishment". I've asked an honest question here. Why is it impossible for the unbeliever to remain civil and/or tolerant of others' faiths. Certainly, they are many of the same who lodge indictments against others for intolerance, why does it not work both ways? This is why I use the word "endure".

You're right, I know that this thread was not posted as an honest question, and I have no problem with people pointing that out. My problem is that Kevin always makes his insecurity accusation, and he is full of sh*t in this regard. There are certainly non-believers who are insecure, just as there are Christians who are insecure, but he throws out the "insecurity blanket" and tries to fit all of us under it.

I don't believe in the tenets of Islam, Judaism, or Buddhism, but I'm not posting multiple times against these faiths. If I were, you'd have to wonder what my hangup was.

[smacintush]

Originally Posted by ebuddy

uh... the point was you don't see Christians posting "The way to Heaven" and "Jesus Saves". In fact, I dare say most threads referencing Christianity are done by those with a distaste for it. You know, if two posters were this concerned with one another we'd recommend they get a room.

I fail to see how this has anything to do with what us heathens post. I personally don't use Christian posting habits as a gauge when I decide on how I want to post, and I don't expect others too use my posts as a gauge either…or were you trying to demonstrate the superior manners or morality of Christian posters? Really, maybe I'm a little dim (quite possible) but I can't see what your point has to do with anything.

Why is it impossible for the unbeliever to remain civil and/or tolerant of others' faiths. Certainly, they are many of the same who lodge indictments against others for intolerance, why does it not work both ways? This is why I use the word "endure".

Why hyperbolize? It's not impossible. There are a select few of us who practice our right to free speech in regard to religion in a way that upsets or irritates some people. It's not intolerance, I don't think any of us have tried to drive Christians from this forum or anywhere else.

It think that there is a certain "psychological dynamic" to being a "non-believer" in a nation of 280,000,000 "believers", I realize and readily admit that…but it's not insecurity.. I personally find certain things about Christianity irritating and offensive, and apparently so do others. Are you saying that we should silence ourselves? We're the f*cking minority. Surely you and others, as Christians, aren't trying to stealthily oppress a religious minority viewpoint?

Which brings me back to my point in replying to Kevin's hypocritical post: If it is we that are the insecure ones, then why does he and some others get uptight? Surely if they are so secure in their faith these "ignorant flame-baiting posts" wouldn't upset them? Just like if we were so secure then Christianity wouldn't bother us.

I don't believe in the tenets of Islam, Judaism, or Buddhism, but I'm not posting multiple times against these faiths. If I were, you'd have to wonder what my hangup was.

I certainly wouldn't claim you were unsure of your beliefs.

[Dakar]

Originally Posted by smacintush

Surely if they are so secure in their faith these "ignorant flame-baiting posts" wouldn't upset them?

I know saying this will probably start some type of flamefest, but I honestly think mainstream Christianity has sort of persecution complex. It certainly seems to have helped it survive & propagate for 2000 years.