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Buckaroo · Sep 3, 2006, 04:43 PM

One by one, we'll capture and terminate every single one of them.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211960,00.html

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraqi and coalition forces have arrested the second most senior figure in Al Qaeda in Iraq, Iraq's national security adviser announced on Sunday, saying the group now suffered from a "serious leadership crisis."

Hamed Jumaa Farid al-Saeedi, known as Abu Humam or Abu Rana, was captured north of Baghdad a few days ago "along with another group of his aides and followers," Mouwafak al-Rubaie said.

He was the second most important Al Qaeda in Iraq leader after Abu Ayyub al-Masri, who took over the group after Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed by a U.S. air strike north of Baghdad on June 7, al-Rubaie said.

Spliffdaddy · Sep 3, 2006, 05:46 PM

Too bad he's alive.

ironknee · Sep 3, 2006, 06:53 PM

why is it always the second in command that we catch?

idjeff · Sep 3, 2006, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by ironknee

why is it always the second in command that we catch?

Well we just killed the numero uno...it's better to catch him so that we can torture pertinent information out of him

Face Ache · Sep 3, 2006, 08:45 PM

So to update: This is four number twos, two number ones and several number threes. Iraq must have been crawling with Al Qaeda.

Looks like we got there just in time.

Spliffdaddy · Sep 3, 2006, 08:47 PM

Of course, the liberals will swear that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists.

Pretty much all liberal ideas have failed.

I can't think of any that were a success...so before you bash me, name one that worked.

badidea · Sep 4, 2006, 05:25 AM

Good news!

Who is the new number 2 now?

Kevin · Sep 5, 2006, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

Of course, the liberals will swear that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists.

Pretty much all liberal ideas have failed.

I can't think of any that were a success...so before you bash me, name one that worked.

How many people has the Bush administration caught now?

Yeah total failure.

spacefreak · Sep 6, 2006, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

Pretty much all liberal ideas have failed. I can't think of any that were a success...so before you bash me, name one that worked.

Um... New Orleans has been under liberal rule for 60+ years. It's their crowning, utopian achievement.

Spliffdaddy · Sep 6, 2006, 12:15 AM

They have rampant crime, poverty, and racism....in their liberal utopia?

say it aint so

So let me get this right...

Liberals can have a misguided "war on poverty" that lasts 40 years - and nobody utters a word.

But conservatives get flak for having a "misguided war on terror" that lasts 5 years?

I think the war on poverty is just creating *more* poor people

CUT & RUN!! CUT & RUN!!!

Face Ache · Sep 6, 2006, 12:57 AM

If the War on Poverty involved shooting poor people, it'd be over by now.

Spliffdaddy · Sep 6, 2006, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Face Ache

If the War on Poverty involved shooting poor people, it'd be over by now.

No way, dude.

Everytime you kill one, you just create 5 more.

Face Ache · Sep 6, 2006, 01:19 AM

Not if you use cluster weapons in the poorer suburbs.

Nicko · Sep 6, 2006, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by badidea

Good news!

Who is the new number 2 now?

Looks like number 3 got a promotion!

Troll · Sep 6, 2006, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Face Ache

Not if you use cluster weapons in the poorer suburbs.

You know what's really sick about this cluster bomb use? Israel dropped 80% of the cluster bombs that it dropped in Lebanon AFTER the ceasefire was signed!

Face Ache · Sep 6, 2006, 06:19 AM

I know. You save the bastard weapons for acts of bastardry.

Spliffdaddy · Sep 6, 2006, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Troll

You know what's really sick about this cluster bomb use? Israel dropped 80% of the cluster bombs that it dropped in Lebanon AFTER the ceasefire was signed!

And Lebanon still hasn't returned the 2 kidnapped Israeli soldiers.

I'd say Israel needs to drop more cluster bombs on Lebanon.

Face Ache · 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

And Lebanon still hasn't returned the 2 kidnapped Israeli soldiers.

Using your reasoning, America raped and killed a 14 year-old Iraqi girl and her family.

Chuckit · Sep 6, 2006, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Face Ache

So to update: This is four number twos, two number ones and several number threes. Iraq must have been crawling with Al Qaeda.

Not only that, but apparently Al Quada's entire chain of command (complete with 12 second-in-commands)!

Spliffdaddy · Sep 6, 2006, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Face Ache

Using your reasoning, America raped and killed a 14 year-old Iraqi girl and her family.

If I were supporting and protecting a rapist in my home - you'd be right.

Face Ache · Sep 6, 2006, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

If I were supporting and protecting a rapist in my home - you'd be right.

Well some families in the States obviously were.

Target co-ordinates, please.

Face Ache · Sep 6, 2006, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Not only that, but apparently Al Quada's entire chain of command (complete with 12 second-in-commands)!

WooHoo! So the war on terror is nearly over.

Kevin · Sep 7, 2006, 06:16 AM

I have yet to see any of you sarcastic nitwits give any other way around these terrorists.

Just a lot of hot air and sarcasm that really means nothing.

You sure showed us.

tie · Sep 7, 2006, 06:19 PM

Kevin, perhaps you haven't read any posts in this forum? This question only comes up every week or so. I'm not going to waste time listing points which you won't read since you've apparently missed the last hundred times this has been discussed.

One of the standard points, though, is that we should wean ourselves off our oil dependence. So we stop sending money to Saudi Arabia and then to the terrorists. But since oil company executives get a slice off the top first, that solution is politically impossible for Republicans.

The only way to transform the Middle East politically is to remove its governments' oil cash flow crutch. Our attempt to transform the region by force has completely failed.

analogika · Sep 7, 2006, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I have yet to see any of you sarcastic nitwits give any other way around these terrorists.

Just a lot of hot air and sarcasm that really means nothing.

You sure showed us.

Did you know that the two would-be train bombers here in Germany professed to be "al Qaeda" but apparently never had any training by or connection to the actual Al Qaeda chain of command? (Easy hint: if they had, their bombs probably would have gone off.)

Has it escaped you - though I mentioned it some two years ago - that the terrorist masterminds, with the gleeful help of the United States, have succeeded in turning al Qaeda into a grass-roots movement where command structures and Fox-News-compatible election propaganda about "Number Two in Command" having been caught/shot/blown-up are completely meaningless?