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Burn an American flag, it's OK
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Sep 12, 2006, 12:10 PM
 
Burn someone elses, it's not.
Sweet.

“It shows that they were ignorant in their ways of making their points,” she said. “I personally felt victimized, because I was born in Iran, and the flag represents the people.”
But an American flag dosen't?


Freedom of speech. Only for the left?
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Sep 12, 2006, 12:14 PM
 
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Sep 12, 2006, 02:04 PM
 
Huh? What's your point? You quoted one person -- a gal from Iran, specifically -- who said she felt hurt by it. Funny how you didn't bother to point out the counterprotest of a Texas flag being burnt at the same time. That's free speech in action; they were all reasonably peacable, no riots, no nothing.

Oh, but we'd hear howling insanity were the American flag to have been burnt as a counterprotest. They're symbols, that's all. Burning them is rather pointless (except as a means to really tick off one group or another), but is legal and should stay legal.

Across the board. Iranian, Texan, American & Fijian (just to pull a random country outta my hat), plus all the rest. It's the Right that wants to make an exception for the American flag -- to make it an inviolable idol of the nation.

That also is useless, but mortally damaging to our more general rights to free speech.
     
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Sep 12, 2006, 02:11 PM
 
There was a man fined for burning a Mexican flag.
For burning against an ordinance.
There are equally other burning ordinances in place but no one is charged when it's an American flag.
The left always supports this freedom of speech but yet will condemn the burning of another country's flag. Double standard for the use of the first amendment.
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Sep 12, 2006, 02:14 PM
 
Point out "the left" condemning the burning of those flags in that article. There's the very personal viewpoint of a gal from Iran, there's the fellow burning a Texas flag in counter-protest, and a couple of other people who felt it was pointless.

Also note that the Student Government and the college administration allowed it to proceed due to that very same freedom of speech standard.

You're trying to call hypocrisy where there is simply none to be found.
     
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Sep 12, 2006, 02:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar
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I'm with ya.

For the umpteenth time, who gives a crap about what a few college students think.
     
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Sep 12, 2006, 02:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by G Barnett

You're trying to call hypocrisy where there is simply none to be found.
Just give it time.
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Sep 12, 2006, 02:56 PM
 
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Sep 12, 2006, 03:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain
Just give it time.
You can't say "But the no one gets upset if an american flag is burned! Curse you evil american left!" without citing someone burning an american flag with no consequences.

No, saying it will happen does not count.

I've yet to figure out why one segment of the political spectrum would be against its country of origin. That would sort of defeat the purpose of being in politics no?
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Sep 12, 2006, 04:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain
Burn someone elses, it's not.
Sweet.


But an American flag dosen't?


Freedom of speech. Only for the left?
I clicked on this link expecting a story about how someone was prevented from burning an Iranian flag. The only thing that happened was that some students disagreed and voiced their opinions on the matter.

It seems you would prefer that if an Iranian flag is burned that people should not be allowed to disagree with such an action since you believe its fully justified. How dare that Iranian student disagree with the burning of her country's flag! That should be illegal!

I think people should be allowed to burn any flag that is their property as long as you aren't breaking any fire ordinances. What's the big deal here?
     
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Sep 12, 2006, 05:17 PM
 
: checks own liberalism :

Nope. Don't feel a bit upset about either flag being burned.
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