[Macrobat]

Joining the growing list of voluntary Dhimmies, YouTube has begun a practice of deleting many conservative posters' and bloggers' videos, no matter how innocuous, if they offend Muslims. Howver, they still have no problem hosting and displaying snuff films from Muslim "insurgents" showing American solidiers and others being executed by all matter of means from beheading to sniper headshots.

Michelle Malkin: Banned on YouTube


This is more than a double standard people, this is a truly slippery slope.

[Kerrigan]

[FONT="Book Antiqua"]Mohammedanism is a Religion of Peace[/FONT]

[placebo1969]

It truly is a shame.

[Chuckit]

I feel very conflicted. On one hand, Michelle Malkin is an insipid Ann Coulter wannabe without anything useful to say who has achieved a modicum of success due to the fact that she is the only attractive opinion writer on the planet. On the other hand, I want to make sweet, sweet love to her.

Life is complicated.

[BRussell]

Attractive? I'd make love to Matt Drudge before Michelle Malkin.

[Rumor]

This



or this



You decide.

[macintologist]

YouTube is a private company, it can censor whatever it wants whenever it wants.

Why doesn't Michelle Malkin host her own videos if she's so pissed?

"waaaaa no more free bandwidth!! waaaaaaa"

[Chuckit]

Haha, bad picture of Malkin, good picture of Drudge. Watch the video. She's hot there.

Try this:



vs. this:



(Both these pictures are of them blowing hot air on talk shows, so I think it's a fairly even playing field.)

[BRussell]

Don't make me choose!

[Chuckit]

NO! You must choose!

[dcmacdaddy]

Look at the lips on Michelle Malkin. highly inappropriate.

[Hawkeye_a]

It appears as though, Islamic terror is having it's way with the world. 5 years ago i would have never said this, but.....Kudos to Bush for not putting up with it.

[TheWOAT]

Youtube.com is dead to me.

[Hawkeye_a]

In this decade alone....a Dutch author is murdered for writing a book that isnt palatable to Muslims. Cartoons (FRIGGON CARTOONS) cause riots. And the Pope's speech(mere words) cause riots, and nuns(over 60 years old) in Africa being killed.

And apparently "terror" is limited to the radicals. Thats pure BS.

I pray that those of us who are civilized, never have to give up our freedom of speech and expression due to threats from these barbarians.

[invisibleX]

Are terrorists uploading videos to YouTube? I highly doubt it. This is apples and oranges. Just because someone uploads videos of someone being beheaded doesn't mean the site supports terrorists.

I think its unfortunate how narrow people's perspectives are in this regard. Belligerence for its own sake is stupid. Ignorance begets more fear, which creates more hatred. Maybe at the end of the day the "its them or us" crowd will realize they're completely screwed.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by invisibleX

Are terrorists uploading videos to YouTube? I highly doubt it. This is apples and oranges. Just because someone uploads videos of someone being beheaded doesn't mean the site supports terrorists.

Just the same, while Malkin is a crappy ideologue, I'm not sure I see why her video about terrorists killing people would deserve to be deleted if a video of somebody being graphically killed isn't.

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by BRussell

Attractive? I'd make love to Matt Drudge before Michelle Malkin.

Hey, Russell, dude, you're gay.

Chuckit, I'm wondering why consider Malkin to be a Coulter wannabe. I don't consider that to be a fair characterization of her at all.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Chuckit, I'm wondering why consider Malkin to be a Coulter wannabe. I don't consider that to be a fair characterization of her at all.

Because they both have this "Rah-rah, I'm a conservative and aren't those liberals totally gay?" schtick where they seem to want to shock you with how conservative they are. I think Malkin is more sincere than Coulter — who is just the real-world equivalent of a forum troll — but whenever I read something by either, I feel like I'm being beaten over the head with the fact that they're conservative. In both cases, I feel like the zealousness undermines the actual effectiveness of their opinions, so they are basically preaching to the choir.

[King Bob On The Cob]

Originally Posted by invisibleX

Are terrorists uploading videos to YouTube? I highly doubt it. This is apples and oranges. Just because someone uploads videos of someone being beheaded doesn't mean the site supports terrorists.

I think its unfortunate how narrow people's perspectives are in this regard. Belligerence for its own sake is stupid. Ignorance begets more fear, which creates more hatred. Maybe at the end of the day the "its them or us" crowd will realize they're completely screwed.

Please crawl in a hole and die. You're advocating censorship! They're censoring someone's opinion because a group is having a problem with it, but not censoring what is IMHO a much more controversial videos. I am offended that they think it's OK.

How about this, I am highly offended that the 'Sept 11th was a government plot' videos are being hosted on YouTube and I'll start inciting riots until they're taken down.

Wasn't there a South Park episode on this exact same premise? If you give into one group, you will eventually have to give into all the groups, leaving you with something completely useless.

[Dakar]

Originally Posted by BRussell

Attractive? I'd make love to Matt Drudge before Michelle Malkin.

Hmmm... chow chow or big head... don't make me decide either.

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

Look at the lips on Michelle Malkin. highly inappropriate.

Sounds like I missed some gold, there.

[Millennium]

Censorship is an abomination. So is the paranoia that led these people to get the video taken off. If mainstream Islam is so insecure in its own faith that it can't take the same sort of criticism that Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and all major other world religions face on a daily basis, then it needs to grow up, as these faiths have done.

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by Millennium

Censorship is an abomination. So is the paranoia that led these people to get the video taken off. If mainstream Islam is so insecure in its own faith that it can't take the same sort of criticism that Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and all major other world religions face on a daily basis, then it needs to grow up, as these faiths have done.

I agree censorship is the path to oppression, but I wonder how the lines will be further blurred with stuff like this:


October 6, 2006
Anti-U.S. Attack Videos Spread on the Internet

By EDWARD WYATT
LOS ANGELES, Oct. 5 — Videos showing insurgent attacks against American troops in Iraq, long available in Baghdad shops and on Jihadist Web sites, have steadily migrated in recent months to popular Internet video-sharing sites, including YouTube and Google Video.
Many of the videos, showing sniper attacks against Americans and roadside bombs exploding under American military vehicles, have been posted not by insurgents or their official supporters but apparently by Internet users in the United States and other countries, who have passed along videos found elsewhere.
Among the scenes being viewed daily by thousands of users of the sites are sniper attacks in which Americans are felled by snipers as a camera records the action and of armored Humvees or other military vehicles being hit by roadside bombs.
In some videos, the troops do not appear to have been seriously injured; in one, titled “Sniper Hit” and posted on YouTube by a user named 69souljah, a serviceman is knocked down by a shot but then gets up to seek cover. Other videos, however, show soldiers bleeding on the ground, vehicles exploding and troops being loaded onto medical evacuation helicopters.
At a time when the Bush administration has restricted photographs of the coffins of military personnel returning to the United States and the Pentagon keeps close tabs on videotapes of combat operations taken by the news media, the videos give average Americans a level of access to combat scenes rarely available before, if ever.
Their availability has also produced some backlash. In recent weeks, YouTube has removed dozens of the videos from its archives and suspended the accounts of some users who have posted them, a reaction, it said, to complaints from other users.
More than four dozen videos of combat in Iraq viewed by The New York Times have been removed in recent days, many after The Times began inquiries.
But many others remain, some labeled in Arabic, making them difficult for American users to search for. In addition, new videos, often with the same material that had been deleted elsewhere, are added daily.
Russell K. Terry, a Vietnam veteran who founded the Iraq War Veterans Organization, said he had mixed feelings about the videos.
“It’s unfortunate there’s no way to stop it,” Mr. Terry said, even though “this is what these guys are over there fighting for: freedom of speech.”
One YouTube user, who would not identify himself other than by his account name, facez0fdeath, and his location, in Britain, said by e-mail that he posted a video of a sniper attack “because I felt it was information the U.K. news was unwilling to tell.”
“I was physically sickened upon seeing it,” he said, adding, “I am wholly opposed to any form of censorship.”
The video he posted, which had been viewed more than 33,000 times, was removed earlier this week.
Another YouTube user, who said he was a 19-year-old in Istanbul and who posted more than 40 videos of Iraq violence, said via e-mail that “anti-war feelings and Muslim beliefs (the religion of peace) motivates me.”
Neal O. Newbill, a freshman at the University of Memphis who viewed some of the YouTube videos and posted comments on them, said in an interview that he was enraged by the recorded chants of “Allahu Akbar,” Arabic for “God is great,” that follow some of the sniper attacks.
But Mr. Newbill added that he was awed by the size of the blasts from the improvised explosive devices, or I.E.D.’s, used against American vehicles. A son, nephew and grandson of American veterans, Mr. Newbill said he had sought out the videos, searching on YouTube for “I.E.D.,” “because I like watching stuff blow up.”
The Web sites also contain a growing number of video clips taken by American soldiers. One shows the view from the back of a truck containing several members of a platoon, whose vehicle then hits an I.E.D. and is turned on its side. A few videos also show American servicemen or private security guards firing at attackers, and one shows an American rocket-propelled grenade hitting a building from which insurgents are firing.
A spokesman for United States Central Command, which oversees troops in Iraq, said the military was aware of the use of common Internet sites by both insurgent groups and American military personnel.
“Centcom is aware we are facing an adaptive enemy that uses the Internet as a force multiplier and as a means of connectivity,” Maj. Matt McLaughlin, the spokesman, said by e-mail.
While posting of Web logs, pictures and videos by American troops is subject to military regulations, Major McLauglin said, “Al Qaeda uses the Internet and media to foster the perception that they are more capable than they are.”
Some of the videos are obvious propaganda, with Arabic subtitles and accompanying music, while others simply have scenes without sound or graphics. They appear to be real, though the results of attacks are not always clear.
One frequently posted video shows individual photographs of several hundred American soldiers allegedly killed by a Baghdad sniper referred to as Juba. But a television news report from the German weekly Der Spiegel that also has been posted on the video sites shows an interview with one American soldier whom the insurgent group claimed to have killed but whose protective vest stopped the sniper’s bullet.
Geoffrey D. W. Wawro, director of the Center for the Study of Military History at the University of North Texas and a former instructor at the United States Naval War College, said the erosion of the command structure of terrorist and insurgent groups had led them to increase their reliance on the Internet and videos to gain recruits.
American troops, too, have always sent snapshots home from the front, Mr. Wawro said, and digital pictures and video are simply a new incarnation of that.
“This is how the new generation does things,” he said.
“It results in a continued trivialization of combat and its effects,” Mr. Wawro added, “but no one feels completely comfortable saying, Don’t do it.”
YouTube does feel comfortable saying so, however, as does Google Video. Both have user guidelines that prohibit the posting of videos with graphic violence, a measure that spokeswomen for each service said was violated by many of the Iraq videos.
Julie Supan, senior director of marketing for YouTube, said the company removed videos after they were flagged by users as having inappropriate content and were reviewed by the video service.
In an e-mail message, Ms. Supan said that among the videos removed were those that “display graphic depictions of violence in addition to any war footage (U.S. or other) displayed with intent to shock or disgust, or graphic war footage with implied death (of U.S. troops or otherwise).”
David Gelles and Omar Fekeiki contributed reporting from Berkeley, Calif.

[macintologist]

Originally Posted by Millennium

Censorship is an abomination. So is the paranoia that led these people to get the video taken off. If mainstream Islam is so insecure in its own faith that it can't take the same sort of criticism that Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and all major other world religions face on a daily basis, then it needs to grow up, as these faiths have done.

Youtube is a private company and can do whatever it wants with its website.

[Chuckit]

I am a private citizen who can cheat on my wife and screw people over as much as I want. Does it follow that people should respect me or even not revile me for doing these things?

[Millennium]

Originally Posted by macintologist

Youtube is a private company and can do whatever it wants with its website.

Yes, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to call it out on its cowardice, and the complainers out on their immaturity.

[DLQ2006]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

In this decade alone....a Dutch author is murdered for writing a book that isnt palatable to Muslims. Cartoons (FRIGGON CARTOONS) cause riots. And the Pope's speech(mere words) cause riots, and nuns(over 60 years old) in Africa being killed.

And apparently "terror" is limited to the radicals. Thats pure BS.

I pray that those of us who are civilized, never have to give up our freedom of speech and expression due to threats from these barbarians.

Yea, but don't you remember all the rioting, killing, pillaging, ect over the crucifix in urine "Art" and the dung splattered virgin mary "Art"? Oh yea that's right............there wasn't any. Islam has no sense of humor and the leftists only have a sense of humor when it's them bashing conservatives. What you pointed out in your first paragraph is exactly why I dish it back out as often as I can. The fact that they can't stand the taste of their own medicine and are just like the bully that plays victim as soon as they are stood up to, makes it that much more fun.

I heard today that when our predators are watching people on the ground in Muslim countries, that the women in burkas from a distance look like Darth Vader.........LOL. Oh, I can't wait for the backlash I'll have coming to me for that one! As far as I'm concerned the Muslims can grow a thicker skin or go live in a country where people have their heads chopped off for telling jokes about Muhammad (pigs be upon him).

[Hawkeye_a]

Originally Posted by DLQ2006

I heard today that when our predators are watching people on the ground in Muslim countries, that the women in burkas from a distance look like Darth Vader.........LOL.

We used to call em ninjas in high school

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Millennium

Censorship is an abomination. So is the paranoia that led these people to get the video taken off. If mainstream Islam is so insecure in its own faith that it can't take the same sort of criticism that Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and all major other world religions face on a daily basis, then it needs to grow up, as these faiths have done.