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How Do Moderate Muslim Nations Keep Radical Islamists In Line?
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Oct 20, 2006, 04:14 AM
 
How Do Moderate Muslim Nations Keep Radical Islamists In Line?

But the Tunisian government knows, in a way that Western governments do not, that it has to use force -- hence that "Police state" characterization -- if it wishes to keep the outward and visible signs of Islam on the March (such as the Return of the Hijab, a statement that is clearly and aggressively political in nature) from scaring the secular and demoralizing them.

The Tunisian police are doing what in Turkey is, or used to be done, by the army: preserving the regime of constraints on Islam. Call it Kemalism in one country, or Bourguibism in another, or call it merely common sense -- in any case, it requires the kinds of measures that soft-hearted and soft-minded Infidels no doubt deplore. Those Infidels do not understand how powerful and menacing and all-encompassing a belief-system Islam is, and how the West has much to learn from the willingness of those in the Islamic world who, in order to keep this Rasputin under the ice, have to keep knocking it down, tying it up, keeping it from emerging yet again.

And those who mention tourism are also not wrong. The Tunisians are not fools. They do not possess oil and gas. They have all sorts and conditions of tourists. Some can safely be escorted to resorts, where gentils-organisateurs will keep them occupied. But should other Western tourists wander around outside those gated-and-guarded resorts, and see those herds of hijabs and the unsmiling faces under them, then Tunisia becomes less attractive to tourists. And of course the sunbathing hedonistic Infidels are likely targets if Islam has its way. Without the strongest of measures, as is understood in Tunisia as in Turkey, but not yet in London or Paris, unless the strongest of measures of all kinds are relentlessly undertaken, then Islam usually has its way.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013661.php

While we set about making sure the enemy combatants have fair trials and respectful treatments we should consider what their brother Arabs and brother Muslims employ to keep things under control.
     
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Oct 20, 2006, 04:48 AM
 
Or maybe use another source of information about Islam and Muslims?

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Oct 20, 2006, 05:17 AM
 
I don't know who is worse, the radical Islamists who want to enforce society and people into following their very own interpretation of what Islam should be like, or the islamophobes of western circles, like in this case "jihadwatch.org", who portray radical Islamism as being the real Islam.

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Originally Posted by Taliesin View Post
I don't know who is worse, the radical Islamists who want to enforce society and people into following their very own interpretation of what Islam should be like, or the islamophobes of western circles, like in this case "jihadwatch.org", who portray radical Islamism as being the real Islam.

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Both are bad, but words allow a person to walk away. Bombs don't. Now that we've cleared that up...

I bet you I could post 3 random pieces from jihadwatch and if you didn't know it was from there you'd not know it from any other source. You can't just invalidate an entire source.

And in the case of that entire piece or the clip I posted, I would like you to point out the part(s) that you find objectionable so that I will be more aware of any unfairness I might inadvertently practice.
     
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nm.
(Last edited by Sayf-Allah; Oct 20, 2006 at 05:53 AM. (Reason:useless to discuss this.....))

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Oct 20, 2006, 06:13 AM
 
I don't know whats worse, radical islam or islamophobia-phobia.
     
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Oct 20, 2006, 09:05 AM
 
How do you watch for Jihads? Does it involve getting a bunch of fellow jihad watchers together and sitting in a quiet place together with sets of binoculars and a trusty copy of "Jihad watchers guide: a pictorial look at the different species of Jihadists"?
     
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Originally Posted by yakkiebah View Post
I don't know whats worse, radical islam or islamophobia-phobia.
Oh come on, it only matter if people see you as being hip and intalekchewalls.
     
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Oct 20, 2006, 10:22 AM
 
How Do Moderate Muslim Nations Keep Radical Islamists In Line?
Why, send them to a third country that supports & condones the use of torture, such as Syria, Yemen or the United States.
     
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I see what you did there.
     
   
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