[art_director]

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Sort of leave you scratching your head, doesn't it?

No doubt I'll get attacked by those slugging blue Kool-Aide™ for posting this. Fact is I'm harsh on the Bush administration and the Republican Congress because they deserve it. They have failed America.

In 1999 I attacked Clinton because he deserved it. He was a slug who degraded the office of the president. Bush has gone several steps further with his actions.

[BRussell]

art_director, you're awfully defensive about being labeled partisan. The fact is, they're going to call you partisan no matter what. Say it like it is, don't apologize for it, and you don't need to find false equivalencies (like Clinton in 1999 vs. Bush in 2006) to prove how balanced you are. First, what they've done in office is not in the least bit equivalent, and it won't make you appear more fair to the dead-enders anyway.

[art_director]

Didn't mean to come as defensive, just honest and open. Thx for the comments just the same.

It's true, there's a vast difference between what Clinton did and the many things Bush et. al. have done. My hope is that the growing unrest in America will force the Congress -- whether Dem or Rep run -- to punish this administration for their many misdeeds. Of course, that means they'd be taking bullets themselves so it's unlikely.

[Kerrigan]

I sympathize with you, Art. I'm something of a mixed bag myself: a social conservative, who is seriously tired of neoconservatism. Whenever I criticize Bush, people think I am being a partisan liberal. Not so.

The things I care about most are: individual liberty, social harmony, and (non-evangelical) Christian heritage.

What has Bush done? He's acted as midwife to destructive ideas like globalization, immigration, unbridled capitalism, etc. His ultra-capitalist ideals are destroying the US's regional character, he is helping important jobs trickle away to China, he is letting the country be over-run by Mexicans, etc. He spends us into oblivion. All for the pursuit of economic growth.

On top of this he tries to unite everyone behind gay-marriage bans, a total waste of time.

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

I sympathize with you, Art. I'm something of a mixed bag myself: a social conservative, who is seriously tired of neoconservatism. Whenever I criticize Bush, people think I am being a partisan liberal. Not so.

The things I care about most are: individual liberty, social harmony, and (non-evangelical) Christian heritage.

What has Bush done? He's acted as midwife to destructive ideas like globalization, immigration, unbridled capitalism, etc. His ultra-capitalist ideals are destroying the US's regional character, he is helping important jobs trickle away to China, he is letting the country be over-run by Mexicans, etc. He spends us into oblivion. All for the pursuit of economic growth.

On top of this he tries to unite everyone behind gay-marriage bans, a total waste of time.

If more of your countrymen weren’t so paralyzed by fear, they might realize the same.

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by art_director 

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When Bush is confronted with this (and he will), he'll say "Well, I meant stay the present course we're on at the moment! Never said we're not flexible or that we wouldn't hafta change blahblahblah!"

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

I sympathize with you, Art. I'm something of a mixed bag myself: a social conservative, who is seriously tired of neoconservatism. Whenever I criticize Bush, people think I am being a partisan liberal. Not so.

The things I care about most are: individual liberty, social harmony, and (non-evangelical) Christian heritage.

What has Bush done? He's acted as midwife to destructive ideas like globalization, immigration, unbridled capitalism, etc. His ultra-capitalist ideals are destroying the US's regional character, he is helping important jobs trickle away to China, he is letting the country be over-run by Mexicans, etc. He spends us into oblivion. All for the pursuit of economic growth.

On top of this he tries to unite everyone behind gay-marriage bans, a total waste of time.

You are truly one weird beast. A gay christian libertarian.

[subego]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

A gay christian libertarian.

Sounds like Jesus.

[Dork.]

I understand that our position in Iraq is much more nuanced than any sound bite, such as "stay the course" or "cut and run". But this administration seems to live by the sound bite, so I'm suprised Bush is rejecting one that he has relied on for so long now.

Stewart and Colbert will love this. Are they having new episodes this week?

[gumby5647]

Rules of the GOP:

*War is Peace
*Freedom is Slavery
*Ignorance is Strength

[Kerrigan]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

You are truly one weird beast. A gay christian libertarian.

Hey I'm in good company: Simey is a gay conservative who is rather sympathetic to Christianity.

To each his own.

[Krusty]

I did not have sexual relations with that phrase.

[voodoo]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

Hey I'm in good company: Simey is a gay conservative who is rather sympathetic to Christianity.

To each his own.

FWIW, I find it very strange that you'd want to make that comparison. Asides from the labels you mention, I see no particular similarities.



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[Kerrigan]

Edit: I'm staying out of this little feud.

[TheWOAT]

Originally Posted by voodoo 

You are also anal-retentive, Bush-apologizing, born-again American, narrow minded, humorless, sad, lonely and display lower-than-average ingelligence like Simey?



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CAT FIGHT !!!

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

Edit: I'm staying out of this little feud.

I think you should stay the course!

[TheWOAT]

To me it sounded like Bush didnt understand the question. G. Steph was in my mind referring to a time table to pull out (In between stay the course and cut and run) while Bush was saying that they are trying all avenues to secure Iraq... 2 years, and about 3 months until this is over.

[black bear theory]

what most of you fail to realize is that 'stay the course' is, in actuality, a broad open-ended process of discourse between the US, the iraqi gov't, insurgents, syria, iran, et al. just because many of those avenues haven't been explored, even, some might say, completely shut out in the past three+ years, doesn't require - does not require that it is outside the realm of their definition.

i blame the liberal press for never asking for clarification of 'stay the course'. some of you are so quick to judge the inclusive nature of this administration. for shame.

[Sky Captain]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

I sympathize with you, Art. I'm something of a mixed bag myself: a social conservative, who is seriously tired of neoconservatism. Whenever I criticize Bush, people think I am being a partisan liberal. Not so.

The things I care about most are: individual liberty, social harmony, and (non-evangelical) Christian heritage.

What has Bush done? He's acted as midwife to destructive ideas like globalization, immigration, unbridled capitalism, etc. His ultra-capitalist ideals are destroying the US's regional character, he is helping important jobs trickle away to China, he is letting the country be over-run by Mexicans, etc. He spends us into oblivion. All for the pursuit of economic growth.

On top of this he tries to unite everyone behind gay-marriage bans, a total waste of time.

Helping jobs trickle away to China?
NAFTA and the China Free Trade Agreement.
Clinton's legacy.
And It's not Just Mexican illegals. The left wants these illegals here. As voters.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Nicko 

If more of your countrymen weren’t so paralyzed by fear, they might realize the same.

I believe that is a exaggeration. I know of no person that is like this personally. And if there is any, it's a minority.

Most of us however ARE realistic.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by subego 

Sounds like Jesus.

AAHAHA YOU PUT JESUS AND GAY TOGETHER! AHAHAHHA

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

Hey I'm in good company: Simey is a gay conservative who is rather sympathetic to Christianity.

To each his own.

And I am a straight Christian that doesn't care what you do, because I don't feel I am any better than anyone else. Like most Christians.

[subego]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

AAHAHA YOU PUT JESUS AND GAY TOGETHER! AHAHAHHA

SMACKDOWN!

[art_director]

i think jesus was gay. why else would he take on twelve dudes instead of some dudes and some gals? just doesn't make sense to me. heck, i'd have an all girl team if i were him.

[BRussell]

There a good video here (it's the second one) of Bush saying "stay the course" over and over and over again. But no longer - their policy never was "stay the course!" And it will be a true miracle if the "liberal media" ever calls them on it.

[Sky Captain]

Originally Posted by art_director 

i think jesus was gay. why else would he take on twelve dudes instead of some dudes and some gals? just doesn't make sense to me. heck, i'd have an all girl team if i were him.

Jesus had a wife. Mary Magdalen.

[Dakar²]

I don't believe that's generally accepted.

Otherwise Da Vinci code wouldn't have caused its little stir (at least in that aspect).

[Sky Captain]

Holy Blood - Holy Grail.

And I don't follow what's generally accepted.

[art_director]

Originally Posted by Sky Captain 

Jesus had a wife. Mary Magdalen.

Lots of gay men take wives for cover. Tom Cruise for example.

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by Sky Captain 

Holy Blood - Holy Grail.

And I don't follow what's generally accepted.

Brown used that as much source material for his book, actually.

I make no claim as to whether it is accurate or not.

[BRussell]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

I make no claim as to whether it is accurate or not.

I will: It is utter and complete crap.

[voodoo]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

I will: It is utter and complete crap.

It is indeed.

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[puppetswhokill]

....

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

I will: It is utter and complete crap.

The illuminati would beg to differ….

Oh wait I have a knock at the door..

[ironknee]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

There a good video here (it's the second one) of Bush saying "stay the course" over and over and over again. But no longer - their policy never was "stay the course!" And it will be a true miracle if the "liberal media" ever calls them on it.

it's like the keystone cops...

and rummy saying we never said we knew they had wmds...

[Kerrigan]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

And I am a straight Christian that doesn't care what you do, because I don't feel I am any better than anyone else. Like most Christians.

"...all conceit is not the same conceit, but varies in correspondence with the minutiae of mental make in which one of us differs from another."

[ironknee]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

And I am a straight Christian that doesn't care what you do, because I don't feel I am any better than anyone else. Like most Christians.

...except they can't marry each other

[tie]

It sounds like Bush is planning to cut and right, but just waiting until after the election. (Too bad for all the American soldiers dying in the meantime.) After all, if we aren't staying the course, then we must be cut-and-run'ing.

(I love Republican logic, it makes the world so simple!)

[ironknee]

it's called flip flop

[hyteckit]

Hey, no one notice my signature?

Republicans - Party of short term memory.

[Your Mama]

Originally Posted by art_director 

i think jesus was gay. why else would he take on twelve dudes instead of some dudes and some gals?

Many women followed Jesus and were also his disciples.

Originally Posted by Sky Captain 

Jesus had a wife. Mary Magdalen.

[ ] You know the difference between movies and the Bible

[goMac]

I detect a course change coming.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by goMac 

I detect a course change coming.

From open to locked ?

-t

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by Nicko 

If more of your countrymen weren’t so paralyzed by fear, they might realize the same.

Yeah, I was "paralyzed with fear" on my trip to Israel and Egypt 2 weeks ago. *tremble*

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by tie 

(I love Republican logic, it makes the world so simple!)

Democratic logic is more simple, just pick the opposite of the GOP. Why be FOR anything when it's easier to be AGAINST everything?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by puppetswhokill 

OP "In 1999 I attacked Clinton because he deserved it. He was a slug who degraded the office of the president."

Why is liking a good old blow-job offensive? Because she was a chubby Jew?

Is it a sin for Jewish women to swallow?

I think it had more to do with Clinton being a sexual predator, and lying under oath.

And what is with the Jew comments? Odd.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

Hey, no one notice my signature?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

Yeah, I was "paralyzed with fear" on my trip to Israel and Egypt 2 weeks ago. *tremble*

Yeah I don't know anyone that is "paralyzed with fear"

Just another lame exaggeration.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by Your Mama 

You know the difference between movies and the Bible

Fiction is fiction.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

Fiction is fiction.

AHAHH YOU MADE A CONDESCENDING ANTI-BIBLE JOKE!!

YES YOU DID!!1

AHAHAHAHAHHAAHA