[marden]

Disease Cures Are Found in Labs. Where Will We Find The Cure For Terrorism?*

* Actually that would be, Violent Global Jihad with the intent of creating a global Caliphate?

As of yet we have not found a way to stop Violent Islamic Global Jihad. In years past it was stopped only by use of firepower and military might which these days would be mightily protested around the world.

So there is nothing we know of that will halt the spread of Islam by negotiation, guile, intimidation or by violence.

As we prepare to pull out of Iraq the only place where experiments might take place in a setting anything similar to the conditions that would exist in the cities of America, developing successful methods of dealing with this new kind of enemy would be put on hold.

There will be no way to develop and try new ways of stopping this threat as it makes it's way to America.

If we don't learn the needed lessons now, over there, do you want these lessons to still be unlearned when jihadists come to your neighborhood?

[- - e r i k - -]

Try praying. After all, God is on your side. Right? Right?

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

If we don't learn the needed lessons now, over there, do you want these lessons to still be unlearned when jihadists come to your neighborhood?

If you don't learn how to deal with anal probing now, do you want those lessons to still be unlearned when the Greys arrive?

[hyteckit]

Once they found the cure for those who have blind faith in God or Allah. No more Jihadist.

[marden]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

Try praying. After all, God is on your side. Right? Right?

I'm sure the thousands and thousands of moderate Muslims killed by Jihadists prayed but if their prayers don't work then what?

And what will you do if/when the time comes for you to convert to Islam?

Pray to Allah or Die?

[goMac]

Can we cure Conservatives too? And Canadians. Let's cure Canadians. Ooooooo and Christians.

Really, the possibilities are endless.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

If you don't learn how to deal with anal probing now, do you want those lessons to still be unlearned when the Greys arrive?

You mean it is the Greys who are responsible for the 9/11 attacks? And who vow to make the White House the Muslim House? And who declared war on America?

[marden]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

Once they found the cure for those who have blind faith in God or Allah. No more Jihadist.

Come back to Earth. What will "cure" people of religious beliefs, in your opinion?

[marden]

Originally Posted by goMac 

Can we cure Conservatives too? And Canadians. Let's cure Canadians. Ooooooo and Christians.

Really, the possibilities are endless.

We're not violently conquering the globe and imposing Christianity on anyone.

Be real.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by marden 

We're not violently conquering the globe and imposing Christianity on anyone.

Be real.

I'm wondering how re-mapping someone's brain would be possible. I mean, maybe you could drug them into submission, but then again we could just do that with the Conservatives when they get too uppity. Put them in their place too.

[hyteckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

Come back to Earth. What will "cure" people of religious beliefs, in your opinion?

Haha... exactly... you need to come back to Earth.

Christian extremist bombing abortion clinics. Act of terrorism. What's the cure?

[marden]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

Haha... exactly... you need to come back to Earth.

Christian extremist bombing abortion clinics. Act of terrorism. What's the cure?

How did Turkey develop it's unique balance of secularism and Islam?

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by marden 

I'm sure the thousands and thousands of moderate Muslims killed by Jihadists prayed but if their prayers don't work then what?

I think you are on to something.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

Try praying. After all, God is on your side. Right? Right?

God's on all sides.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

Haha... exactly... you need to come back to Earth.

Christian extremist bombing abortion clinics. Act of terrorism. What's the cure?

Yeah, let's count the number of Christian bombings in the last 10 years and compare it the those done in the name of Islam.

Quit being an idiot. There is a problem with militant Islam (the world's largest problem, I might add), and keeping your head up your ass solves nothing.

[Uncle Skeleton]

As long as the "militant islamicists" have a legitimate grudge (in addition to their psychotic rambling illegitimate ones), there will be support for them. If we stop antagonizing them, they will lose the power to attract followers from the mainstream population.

[badidea]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

(the world's largest problem, I might add)

sorry, I can't stop!




Which world do you mean again?
This one?




(No, I don't mean global warming!!)

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by badidea 

sorry, I can't stop!

They can't seem to either, but at least they can still leave you in stitches. I'm glad you're enjoying the Jihad. It's good to see that idiots are still so easily amused.

Tell you what, sunshine, go to the ME and visit with the Christians and Jews (and most Muslims) and see if they share your mirth.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

As long as the "militant islamicists" have a legitimate grudge (in addition to their psychotic rambling illegitimate ones), there will be support for them. If we stop antagonizing them, they will lose the power to attract followers from the mainstream population.

Travel there yourself and see. Until then, you'll never understand the breadth of what I'm describing. They don't need any outside antagonism, they're proficient in starting fires all by themselves.

[Saetre]

Islam is the world's most powerful religion from a memetic perspective. The only solution I see is to replace it with an even more powerful religion. Someone would have to invent one of course, and it would have to be so mind-warping that its proponents would willingly be tortured and killed en masse until the religion gained enough of a foothold to overcome the minds of muslims everywhere. But then if the religion is so great at infecting minds it will infect our minds too. And it may evolve to do so in a violent manner. So basically we are screwed. Islam is no wimpy pagan meme-complex, it's here to stay.

On a more serious note, I think the best way to combat radical Islam is to somehow convert it into a more peaceful religion/culture. Perhaps we can somehow show everyone in the muslim world some documentaries of the true human suffering terrorists cause to specific families and people with whom they can relate. Start a documentary by putting a face to an innocent muslim killed by a suicide bomber, then show similar footage of nonmuslim children and other innocents being killed. Tell the stories so the common humanness shared by specific members of separate religions will be emphasized and hopefully taken-to-heart. It won't change terrorists in nonterrorists but it may prevent some people peoplke from becoming terrorists in the first place. What they really need is a very powerful peaceful leader. Their version of Ghandi or MLK. There isn't much we can to help that along though.

I know it's a weak idea but at least it isn't counterproductive like bombs. Perhaps Israel and Iran will nuke eachother to bits and that will bring everyone to their senses? I hope it doesn't come to that...

[davesimondotcom]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

As long as the "militant islamicists" have a legitimate grudge (in addition to their psychotic rambling illegitimate ones), there will be support for them. If we stop antagonizing them, they will lose the power to attract followers from the mainstream population.

What's their legitimate grudge? The fact that they have leaders who oppress their own people and then point the finger of blame at the West? The fact that Israel exists?

Truth is, there is a segment of the world's population who have hijacked one of the world's major religions and will continue to terrorize the people of the world until we have all converted to their warped world view.

We can be nice to them. We can hold hands and sing around a campfire. That will not change the fact that they want to kill anyone who doesn't share their belief system – one that subjugates women, reduces freedoms and would mean really bad things for the sales of Jimmy Dean.

[Uncle Skeleton]

their legitimate grudge is that we have invaded a major muslim country, killing over half a million of them, and torturing them in our prisons

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by marden 

We're not violently conquering the globe and imposing Christianity on anyone.

Be real.

Not anymore.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Saetre 

Islam is the world's most powerful religion from a memetic perspective. The only solution I see is to replace it with an even more powerful religion. Someone would have to invent one of course, and it would have to be so mind-warping that its proponents would willingly be tortured and killed en masse until the religion gained enough of a foothold to overcome the minds of muslims everywhere.

Like Scientology?

[Saetre]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

Like Scientology?

They are muslims. They aren't insane. Scientiology is a weak-ass religion. How's this sound?

Someone (say me) comes down from "heaven" as the second coming of Muhammed. Since I've been in heaven for so long with all those virgins I'll be all mellow and peace loving. Maybe god introduced me to weed or something. So I'll emphasize charity, turn-the-ther cheek type stuff. The nicest, most charitable people are the most awesome and definitely deserve the most wives. Of course the wives will be taught to love the charitable peaceful men, but only when it is of their own free will. Because God doesn't reward anything but pure and awesome love. The most charitable men with the most wives, of course, will be the ones who are so awesomely charitable that they encourage their wives to find less charitable men to be physically husband/wife with even before they are devirginized. But in spirit they will still be married to the super awesome charitable dudes. Capitalism, of course, is the way to wealth and hence the way to the power of charity so men will try to become successful business men so that they will have money to give to the poor. Of course the true end of wealth is to give it away so the rich men will not seek wealth at the expense of the poor or the environment. Their new spiritual leader will inspire them to build beautiful monuments of public necessity like magnificent orphanages, poor-houses and public restrooms that speak of the glory of God.

Only the most truly kinda-awesome people will be allowed into the religion, so people will flock to it so they are known as leaders of their communities. This is the way to the salvation of the world. Anyone want to sign up?

[hyteckit]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

Yeah, let's count the number of Christian bombings in the last 10 years and compare it the those done in the name of Islam.

Quit being an idiot. There is a problem with militant Islam (the world's largest problem, I might add), and keeping your head up your ass solves nothing.

The number of Christian bombings is irrelevant. It's the same disease requiring the same cure.
A disease that mostly affects people who have blind faith in God or Allah, and don't question what they have been told. The disease is made worst dependent on the environment they are in, especially in lawless countries with no civil government.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

The number of Christian bombings is irrelevant.

No, it isn't. Magnitude is important here. Please, keep your eye on the ball.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

Once they found the cure for those who have blind faith in God or Allah. No more Jihadist.

Not true, man will just use something else to control. Like the sun! Or water... or

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

Christian extremist bombing abortion clinics. Act of terrorism. What's the cure?

When this becomes a frequent world-wide epicdemic, you can use this example. Until then, it just reeks of desperation.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

As long as the "militant islamicists" have a legitimate grudge (in addition to their psychotic rambling illegitimate ones), there will be support for them. If we stop antagonizing them, they will lose the power to attract followers from the mainstream population.

There is no legitimacy in their madness. None.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

When this becomes a frequent world-wide epicdemic, you can use this example. Until then, it just reeks of desperation.

So far, it's been fairly centralized in the ME. With the exception of a few in other places, yes?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

t's the same disease requiring the same cure.

Humanity is a disease? Because religion surely doesn't cause this.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

Not true, man will just use something else to control. Like the sun! Or water... or

I have to agree with you here. I believe man is violent by nature.

[badidea]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

They can't seem to either, but at least they can still leave you in stitches. I'm glad you're enjoying the Jihad. It's good to see that idiots are still so easily amused.

Tell you what, sunshine, go to the ME and visit with the Christians and Jews (and most Muslims) and see if they share your mirth.

Is calling me an idiot the best you can do?
Try again!

(and learn reading)

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

So far, it's been fairly centralized in the ME. With the exception of a few in other places, yes?

Um Terrorism by muslim extremists have been happening everywhere just about.

We find it in Europe, we find it in the Americas, we find it in the east

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

Travel there yourself and see. Until then, you'll never understand the breadth of what I'm describing. They don't need any outside antagonism, they're proficient in starting fires all by themselves.

They certainly seem to have lit a fire in you, and marden, and kevin. Is it fun being their pawn?

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by badidea 

Is calling me an idiot the best you can do?
Try again!

(and learn reading)

Well, if the sandals fit...

Again, I invite you to travel there and see for yourself. It's a real hoot, probably have you laughing on the verge of tears.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

They certainly seem to have lit a fire in you, and marden, and kevin. Is it fun being their pawn?

I spent 2 weeks watching militant Muslims kill each other and destroying anything that wasn't directly associated with their own sect, how about you?

Keep your head in the sand, you'll never see them coming and won't be disturbed by the shelling.

[hyteckit]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

Humanity is a disease? Because religion surely doesn't cause this.

Not humanity, not religion. Blind faith without questioning.

"You will get 72 virgins if you killed yourself for Allah."
"Oh, okay. I'll do it for Allah."

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

I spent 2 weeks watching militant Muslims kill each other and destroying anything that wasn't directly associated with their own sect, how about you?

Keep your head in the sand, you'll never see them coming and won't be disturbed by the shelling.

Off-topic: Why did you go over there for two weeks?

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by marden 

I'm sure the thousands and thousands of moderate Muslims killed by Jihadists prayed but if their prayers don't work then what?

And what will you do if/when the time comes for you to convert to Islam?

Pray to Allah or Die?

Umm, is this a trick question?

You die maintaining your faith in your Christian god. According to the prcepts of Christianity maintaining one's relationship with God is more important than anything else so why worry if some Islamofascist wants to convert or kill you. Would you rather be a living Muslim or a dead Christian?

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

Off-topic: Why did you go over there for two weeks?

My best friend lives in Israel and I know people scattered all over the ME. When I go to spend time with his family I make the rounds and visit others. I bring them money, magazines, toys for the kids, etc..

[Mark Larr]

Seems we caught and prosecuted Eric Rudolph for bombing an abortion clinic and two gay bars.


The muslims celebrate the bombing of innocents.


The comment of us killing a half a million people is based on outright lies. Believe me, if we had killed that many, I'd be dancing in the street.

That number is based on the total number of deaths including natural ones, or were they immortal before we got there?

[badidea]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

Well, if the sandals fit...

Again, I invite you to travel there and see for yourself. It's a real hoot, probably have you laughing on the verge of tears.

You don't understand anything!
But that's no wonder!

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by badidea 

You don't understand anything!
But that's no wonder!

I understand you and your type all too well, such a pitiful lot. Keep up the good work, as long as your head is up your bum the problem doesn't exist, right? *snicker*

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

I spent 2 weeks watching militant Muslims kill each other and destroying anything that wasn't directly associated with their own sect, how about you?

Keep your head in the sand, you'll never see them coming and won't be disturbed by the shelling.

And this is a new phenomenon?

Tell you what, when they start shelling me, I'll agree with you. And when the warlords in Africa start shelling me, and the gang bangers in LA start shelling me, and when the North Koreans and the Iranians start shelling me, I'll give them all the same courtesy. Until then, I'll try to have some sense not to hang out for weeks on end in their back yards. Incidentally, are you as worried about them as you are about the M&Ms (militants and muslims)?

[cakey]

Originally Posted by MacNStein 

I spent 2 weeks watching militant Muslims kill each other and destroying anything that wasn't directly associated with their own sect

And you just stood there? Why didnt you try to cure them?

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

You mean it is the Greys who are responsible for the 9/11 attacks? And who vow to make the White House the Muslim House? And who declared war on America?

A handful of Arabs have about as much chance of accomplishing a takeover of America as the Greys do.

[Uncle Skeleton]

You know what cures diseases in labs? Controlled experimentation. This implies that to "cure" terrorism you have to let the various western countries each try their own method, without interference from the US (or each other). Then you can see which techniques worked better or worse by which scales (just as different strategies to fight disease often have their various strengths weaknesses and side effects depending on what metric you use to assess their success).

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by davesimondotcom 

The fact that they have leaders who oppress their own people and then point the finger of blame at the West?

Uh oh. You might discover something profound if you replace West with East.