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marden · Nov 22, 2006, 01:32 AM

One Reason Moderate Muslims Don't Slam Jihadists

DISSENT CRUSHED By ADAM BRODSKY - New York Post Online Edition: Seven

DISSENT CRUSHED
WHY MUSLIMS RARELY SPEAK OUT, EVEN IN U.S.

November 19, 2006 -- MUSLIMS are often accused of not speaking out sufficiently against terrorism. Nonie Darwish knows one reason why: Their fellow Muslims won't let them.
Darwish, who comes from Egypt and was born and raised a Muslim, was set to tell students at Brown University about the twisted hatred and radicalism she grew to despise in her own culture. A campus Jewish group, Hillel, had contacted her to speak there Thursday.
But the event was just called off.

Muslim students had complained that Darwish was "too controversial." They insisted she be denied a platform at Brown, and after contentious debate Hillel agreed.

Weird: No one had said boo about such Brown events as a patently anti-Israel "Palestinian Solidarity Week." But Hillel said her "offensive" statements about Islam "alarmed" the Muslim Student Association, and Hillel didn't want to upset its "beautiful relationship" with the Muslim community.

Plus, Brown's women's center backed out of co-sponsoring the event, even though it shares Darwish's concerns about the treatment of women. Reportedly, part of the problem was that Darwish had no plans to condemn Israel for shooting Arab women used by terrorists as human shields, or for insufficiently protecting Israeli Arab wives from their husbands.

In plugging their ears to Darwish, Brown's Muslim students proved her very point: Muslims who attempt constructive self-criticism are quickly and soundly squelched - by other Muslims.

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I think this may have some validity. But I also think Spliffdaddy's theory rings true, that they are holding back because they can.

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

What is 'moderate' anyhow? By definition, it seems to mean that it has the potential for being 'radical', but is holding back.

Taliesin · Nov 22, 2006, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by marden

One Reason Moderate Muslims Don't Slam Jihadists

DISSENT CRUSHED By ADAM BRODSKY - New York Post Online Edition: Seven

More at link.

I think this may have some validity. But I also think Spliffdaddy's theory rings true, that they are holding back because they can.

I don't like the term moderate muslim either. A moderate muslim is someone who follows the liberal part of orthodoxy, but is still bound by orthodoxy.

A radical islamist has left the orthodoxy and follows clericals that make their own interpretation of the Quran and hadiths.

That doesn't have to be bad, in fact it is a good development, that should be followed by all muslims. But right now, only liberal and radical muslims are using their own brains and interpretations, the rest remains in the fold of orthodoxy.

On topic though, the real reason why moderate muslims, ie. from the liberal part of orthodoxy, are not speaking up in mass against radical islamists and their terrorists, and don't outrightly condemn them to hell, is because of the nature of sunnitic orthodoxy.

Sunnism' major component and ideal is to not break the bond with other muslims, regardless of how sinful they might be, to try to teach them better ways, but not to outrightly condemn and judge them, and instead to ultimately leave judgment to God and His endtimes-judgment.

Taliesin