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Rumors : Muqtada al-Sadr killed in Iraq?
Let's hope so. One less moon god worshiping jihadi to deal with.


Quote:
http://www.albasrah.net/ar_articles_...tda_031206.htm
Originial:

شائعات : مقتدى الصدر قد قتل اليوم في مدينة الحرية ببغداد
شبكة البصرة
شائعات : مقتدى الصدر قد قتل اليوم في مدينة الحرية ببغداد
هناك شائعة انتشرت عبر الموبايل في بغداد والفلوجة وتكريت وكركوك والشرقاط ومنذ الصباح الباكر ان مقتدى الصدر قد قتل اليوم في مدينة الحرية ببغداد
وورد الخبر عن طريق احد المجاهدين في المقاومة العراقية الباسلة
ويقال ان هناك تكتيم اعلامي كبير على مقتل مقتدى الصدر
شبكة البصرة
2006
يرجى الاشارة الى شبكة البصرة عند اعادة النشر او الاقتباس


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Google translation:


شائعات : مقتدى الصدر قد قتل اليوم في مدينة الحرية ببغدادRumors : Muqtada al-Sadr have been killed today in the city freedom Baghdad
شبكة البصرةNetwork Basra

شائعات : مقتدى الصدر قد قتل اليوم في مدينة الحرية ببغدادRumors : Muqtada al-Sadr have been killed today in the city freedom Baghdad

هناك شائعة انتشرت عبر الموبايل في بغداد والفلوجة وتكريت وكركوك والشرقاط ومنذ الصباح الباكر ان مقتدى الصدر قد قتل اليوم في مدينة الحرية ببغدادThere is a rumor spread by mobile phone in Baghdad and Fallujah and Tikrit, Kirkuk and Sharqat Since the early morning to Muqtada al-Sadr had been killed today in the city freedom Baghdad

وورد الخبر عن طريق احد المجاهدين في المقاومة العراقية الباسلةAnd the news through one of the fighters in the Iraqi resistance heroes

ويقال ان هناك تكتيم اعلامي كبير على مقتل مقتدى الصدرIt is said that there Tktim media to the killing of Muqtada Sadr

شبكة البصرةNetwork Basra

2006Sunday, a 14 AH 1427 / December 3, 2006

يرجى الاشارة الى شبكة البصرة عند اعادة النشر او الاقتباسPlease refer to a network of Basra upon re-publication or quotation
Original Arabic text:
شائعات : مقتدى الصدر قد قتل اليوم في مدينة الحرية ببغداد

Can anyone confirm this rumor? I've Googled and done some more basic searches (and will do some more until the true picture becomes clear) but found zilch.

It would be a HUGE development if he were dead.

If he is dead maybe the Central Government will be able to turn the tide of the insurgency.

This would be a positive development for the prospects of freedom.

One way to understand Moqtada al-Sadr is to think of him as a young Mafia don. He aims for respectability, and is willing to kill for it. Yet the extent of his power isn't obvious to the untrained eye. He has no standing army or police force, and the Mahdi Army gunmen he employs have no tanks or aircraft. You could mistake him--at your peril--for a common thug or gang leader. And if he or his people were to kill you for your ignorance, he wouldn't claim credit. But the message would be clear to those who understand the brutal language of the Iraqi Street.

American soldiers who patrol Sadr's turf in Baghdad understand. They can spot his men. "They look like they're pulling security," says First Lt. Robert Hartley, a 25-year-old who plays cat and mouse with the Mahdi Army in the Iraqi capital. The Sadrists use children and young men as lookouts. When GIs get out of their Humvees to patrol on foot, one of the watchers will fly a kite, or release a flock of pigeons. Some of Sadr's people have even infiltrated top ranks of the Iraqi police. Capt. Tom Kapla, 29, says he knows who they are: "They look at you, and you can tell they want to kill you."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/1...e_n_34921.html

[goMac]

Marden is quoting Islomofacist Terrorist Squiggly Speaking News Organizations!

Terrorist Sympathizer!

[Jawbone54]

So is he dead? I can't confirm it.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

So is he dead? I can't confirm it.

Me neither. But that is why the Iraqis are fighting us. The rumor mill pumps out BS about us and the people believe it and they think we are evil or whatever the lies are that are going around about us.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by marden 

Me neither. But that is why the Iraqis are fighting us. The rumor mill pumps out BS about us and the people believe it and they think we are evil or whatever the lies are that are going around about us.

My political science teacher forced us to get a Newsweek subscription for the class. That issue came in the mail and went straight to the garbage (that portion of the class is finished). I realized what a piece of propaganda the magazine is.

Anyways, back to the topic: I'm sure that if it was true, we'd be hearing reports about it all across the net, from Drudge to CNN to BBC. Probably not true.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

My political science teacher forced us to get a Newsweek subscription for the class. That issue came in the mail and went straight to the garbage (that portion of the class is finished). I realized what a piece of propaganda the magazine is.

Anyways, back to the topic: I'm sure that if it was true, we'd be hearing reports about it all across the net, from Drudge to CNN to BBC. Probably not true.

Probably not.

Sorry.

[Mithras]

Call me when the new Guy Who Is Evil And If We Kill Him All Will Go Well is in town.

[goMac]

I'm not sure why Mardin is mixing up people and ideas. Even if this guy is killed, his ideas won't die along with him and someone new will pop up in his place.

We're trying to take out an ant hill with with a toothpick.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Mithras 

Call me when the new Guy Who Is Evil And If We Kill Him All Will Go Well is in town.

Why?

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by goMac 

I'm not sure why Mardin is mixing up people and ideas. Even if this guy is killed, his ideas won't die along with him and someone new will pop up in his place.

We're trying to take out an ant hill with with a toothpick.

You're right. Let's just kill them all.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

You're right. Let's just kill them all.

That's the Marden solution. Just take over a nuke and set it off in Baghdad.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

My political science teacher forced us to get a Newsweek subscription for the class. That issue came in the mail and went straight to the garbage (that portion of the class is finished). I realized what a piece of propaganda the magazine is.

You think that is bad. My daughter's Jr. highschool science teacher was discussing global warming with the children and decided to throw a couple digs in @ Bush. He said and I'm quoting crudely from memory; "A poll was taken asking if people believe President Bush is an idiot and 90% answered 'yes'." I tried contacting him directly via email and if I don't get a response I'll try calling him directly. If I don't get a response I'll have no choice, but to take it to the Administration.

Sorry 'bout the derail, had to vent.

[subego]

Originally Posted by ebuddy 

My daughter's Jr. highschool science teacher was discussing global warming with the children and decided to throw a couple digs in @ Bush.

[marden]

Originally Posted by goMac 

That's the Marden solution. Just take over a nuke and set it off in Baghdad.

How many times do I have to tell you that IS NOT and HAS NOT been my solution?

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by ebuddy 

You think that is bad. My daughter's Jr. highschool science teacher was discussing global warming with the children and decided to throw a couple digs in @ Bush. He said and I'm quoting crudely from memory; "A poll was taken asking if people believe President Bush is an idiot and 90% answered 'yes'." I tried contacting him directly via email and if I don't get a response I'll try calling him directly. If I don't get a response I'll have no choice, but to take it to the Administration.

Sorry 'bout the derail, had to vent.

Whats wrong with that?

[subego]

Originally Posted by Nicko 

Whats wrong with that?

I can't speak for ebuddy, but I personally don't find that to be the right venue.

How is whether people think Bush is an idiot or not relevant from a scientific standpoint?

[marden]

Originally Posted by ebuddy 

You think that is bad. My daughter's Jr. highschool science teacher was discussing global warming with the children and decided to throw a couple digs in @ Bush. He said and I'm quoting crudely from memory; "A poll was taken asking if people believe President Bush is an idiot and 90% answered 'yes'." I tried contacting him directly via email and if I don't get a response I'll try calling him directly. If I don't get a response I'll have no choice, but to take it to the Administration.

Sorry 'bout the derail, had to vent.

http://66.95.19.43:8081/GGordonLiddy...-interview.mp3

On the G. Gordon Liddy radio show the G-Man interviewed Aaron Klein of World Net Daily on 11/02/06 and Klein says at appx 10:42 in the recording that he attended a speech at Queensborough Community College in Queens, NY where the speaker (through the Muslim Student Association which makes Muslim speakers available to college and university campuses across America) representing an Islamic organization operating in the U.S. (Al-Muhajiroun) urged students to "join the jihad" (Sayf-Allah should get after that guy for calling terrorism jihad!) and declared the end of America.

The event was also recounted here:

"The event featured a speech about Iraq by two American-based leaders of Al-Muhajiroun, a well-known Islamic fundamentalist organization that supports the ideology of Osama bin Laden, and whose worldwide leader, Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammed, has long been suspected of ties with al-Qaida."

Klein goes on to describe the shocking vitriol of the event’s two featured speakers, "Yousef" and "Faheed":

"[Yousef] argued that President Bush is starting a ‘Christian crusade to rid the world of Islam.’ He said that war with Iraq will cause a major humanitarian crisis in which American soldiers ‘starve, rape and murder our brothers and sisters’ and that something must be done if that happens. ‘Because there is no way to justify this war,’ Yousef said, ‘we must find a solution.’"

Enter Brother Faheed.

"Faheed," Klein writes. "Immediately declared that there is an outright conspiracy against Islam by Christians and Jews, and that as Muslims, ‘we must not recognize any government authority, or any authority at all besides Allah.’"

And the rhetoric only got worse.

"We are not Americans!" [Faheed] shouted. "We are Muslims! [The U.S.] is going to deport and attack us! It is us vs. them! Truth against falsehood! The colonizers and masters against the oppressed, and we will burn down the master’s house…we reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don’t lobby Congress or protest because we don’t recognize Congress! The only relationship you should have with America is to topple it!"

Mind you, this speech took place in America. During a time of war. If that doesn’t serve as a wake-up call to opponents of Ashcroft justice, perhaps Faheed’s closing flourish will:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=7395

All of the things he is predicting or accusing us of will, ironically, be caused by or hastened by his call to arms.

No one in America wants to kill or deport or lock up Muslims.

We just want to be free and safe.

If the Islamists show that this is impossible then we will do what we have been forced to in order to make it so.

Muslims, value the freedom you have here. Assimilate. Be Muslim-Americans, not Muslims who happen to exist in America. You are being afforded every opportunity to do what you can to enjoy the American dream. This, despite the pressures from the Islamists who want to kill you or silence you as they want to bring down America and force us to convert or to kill us in the process.

By speaking out against the Islamists you are helping to make America stronger. You are standing up for the REAL Islam. You are making your statement, just as the black man did when he stood up to fight for America, just as the Japanese did when they stood up to fight for America, just as the Native Americans did when they stood up to fight for America.

The time has come for you to stand up for America AND for Islam AND for yourselves.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Nicko 

Whats wrong with that?

What if your gardener came to your home and began telling your kids that you were an idiot?

Wouldn't you find there to be something wrong with that?

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by subego 

I can't speak for ebuddy, but I personally don't find that to be the right venue.

How is whether people think Bush is an idiot or not relevant from a scientific standpoint?

Well, Bush is antiscience.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Nicko 

Well, Bush is antiscience.

This would be the least likely umbrella for most Bush bashers to find shelter seeing as how scientists are thought of as being smarter than the average citizen.

Most Bush bashers aren't smart enough to know their ***holes from their elbows. So using a position of anti-science just seems counterintuitive unless thoee people happened to suffer from some medical misfortune or are just absolutely committed to being able to abort pregnancies or something.

[marden]

Maybe it's good that he's NOT dead.

Here's an idea I wish I had thought of.

Muqtada al-Sadr -- Iraq's Prime Minister?

Muqtada al-Sadr -- Iraq's Prime Minister? by Scott Sullivan

Absolutely inspired, if the writer correctly understands al-Sadr's orientations and allegiances.

I'll admit when it came to al-Sadr I always thought *THUG* and it never went any further.

What do you guys think of the idea?