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Rumor · Dec 7, 2006, 12:17 PM

Police say Thurber told officers that he believed the family members were terrorists because they spoke Arabic to each other. He allegedly suspected they were plotting an explosion in the north end of Brattleboro and perhaps the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant in Vernon.

“Thurber stated that he thought the (family) should no longer be able to breathe,” Brattleboro Police Officer Mark Carignan wrote in his affidavit. “He said that they needed to be killed to protect the United States.”

Supposedly, this guy has a mental disorder that is untreated and undiagnosed.

I fear that these kinds of actions, though hopefully not as life threatening, are going to become more common place.

When people start to fear things, they become dangerous. Lucky in this case, no one was hurt.

Wiskedjak · Dec 7, 2006, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Burlington Free Press.com |

Supposedly, this guy has a mental disorder that is untreated and undiagnosed.

I fear that these kinds of actions, though hopefully not as life threatening, are going to become more common place.

When people start to fear things, they become dangerous. Lucky in this case, no one was hurt.

Cue the "it's their own fault for not doing something about terrorism" posts.

nonhuman · Dec 7, 2006, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

Cue the "it's their own fault for not doing something about terrorism" posts.

It's the government and medias fault for over-playing the threat that terrorism poses!

Oh, wait....

olePigeon · Dec 7, 2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Supposedly, this guy has a mental disorder that is untreated and undiagnosed.

I think it's called "conservis republicanis."

TheWOAT · Dec 7, 2006, 02:27 PM

Dude sounds crazy.
In a not-so-related note, I heard recently that a lady threw her baby in a microwave and killed "it"... she was a democrat.

olePigeon · Dec 7, 2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by TheWOAT

Dude sounds crazy.
In a not-so-related note, I heard recently that a lady threw her baby in a microwave and killed "it"... she was a democrat.

Well, you can't expect her to fit in the microwave, she's too big.

TheWOAT · Dec 7, 2006, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Well, you can't expect her to fit in the microwave, she's too big.

There are rumors that the microwave was an energy efficient, conservative model.

olePigeon · Dec 7, 2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by TheWOAT

There are rumors that the microwave was an energy efficient, conservative model.

Babies taste better with a liberal amount of seasoning.

TheWOAT · Dec 7, 2006, 10:07 PM

9-11 taught us to think differently about airplane food. Don't let the terrorists win.

marden · Dec 7, 2006, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Burlington Free Press.com |

Supposedly, this guy has a mental disorder that is untreated and undiagnosed.

I fear that these kinds of actions, though hopefully not as life threatening, are going to become more common place.

When people start to fear things, they become dangerous. Lucky in this case, no one was hurt.

And so which do you think would be better:

A few instances of this lamentable thing happening?

Or the American people believing that Islamic populations and individual Muslims are ALL as harmless as populations of the Amish?

We know that within most every sizable Islamic population there exist a few radicals. We know there are sleeper cells like those of the 9/11 attacks.

And we know it doesn't take many terrorists to do great harm.

The question is not who imposes his conditions on whom. Today, we have a great opportunity of this kind. I am not exaggerating. In 2000, we in Lebanon, with modest capabilities and efforts, and with a small number of mujahideen, with few supplies and little equipment, presented a model of how resistance can overcome an occupation army.

Hizbullah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah, which aired on Al-Manar TV on July 16, 2006.

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1194

If you are hoping to prevent the greatest harm being done to the most people (the essence of Democracy at work) you'd have to agree that the danger of Islamic terrorism is the greatest threat to the most people.

Anyone who would intentionally choose their own individual rights over what's best for America as a whole is like flipping off all other Americans. "I don't care about you guys. It's every man for himself here!"

The problem with that attitude is that if we don't do what's best for ALL of America and what's best to maintain America then, ironically, we WILL face a situation like in Iraq where the government can't be trusted to protect us. And it WILL be every man for himself.

And then the scum buckets who want to take advantage of our misery and the chaos and disorientation will begin killing the moderate Muslims in America because they are not radical.

So a moderate Muslim has to choose carefully.

But thanks should go to President Bush for making sure to send the right message to America that Muslims are NOT the enemy, RADICAL Muslims ARE. That's why so few Muslims have been victims of hate crimes.

Thank God for George Bush's wisdom and fairness.

Spliffdaddy · Dec 7, 2006, 10:45 PM

Well, people have been killed for dumber reasons. And quite a lot of them for no reason whatsoever.

Taliesin · Dec 8, 2006, 03:42 AM

The problem with civilian vigilance is that it is most of the time not working and even contraproductive. Real terrorists are prepared to perfectly act and seem innocent and to blend into crowds and normal populations.

Only non-terrorists would speak arabic openly in public and act suspisciously, like the group of imams in the airport and plane, that obviously wanted to make a pr-stunt.

Taliesin

Troll · Dec 8, 2006, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by marden

Thank God for George Bush's wisdom.

Dude, the guy's legacy has already been written! Wisdom is the LAST thing he will be remembered for.

Generally that post is comedy gold though. I lolled a few times. Man, the alternative reality you live in!

red rocket · Dec 8, 2006, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Taliesin

Only non-terrorists would speak arabic openly in public and act suspisciously

If I was a terrorist and I thought speaking Arabic in public and acting suspiciously would make me look like a non-terrorist, I'd do it.

Big Mac · Dec 8, 2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Taliesin

Only non-terrorists would speak arabic openly in public and act suspisciously, like the group of imams in the airport and plane, that obviously wanted to make a pr-stunt.

That's a demonstrably false claim.

Dakar² · Dec 8, 2006, 09:16 AM

The guy is obviously not right in the head.

subego · Dec 8, 2006, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Supposedly, this guy has a mental disorder that is untreated and undiagnosed.

I fear that these kinds of actions, though hopefully not as life threatening, are going to become more common place.

When people start to fear things, they become dangerous. Lucky in this case, no one was hurt.

Read a book by a reservist who was posted to Iraq. He was there a long time even though he was a reservist. He's very sharp guy. Though he didn't come off as an "intellectual" you could tell from his writing he was smart and very introspective.

After spending so much time assuming that almost every ME person he saw was conceivably trying to kill him, now he flinches whenever he sees someone of ME descent.

This type of thing happens in war. What are you going to do?

It is something however, that should be taken into account. You should be somewhat assured that your end result will mitigate this consequence.

Rumor · Dec 8, 2006, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by subego

Read a book by a reservist who was posted to Iraq. He was there a long time even though he was a reservist. He's very sharp guy. Though he didn't come off as an "intellectual" you could tell from his writing he was smart and very introspective.

After spending so much time assuming that almost every ME person he saw was conceivably trying to kill him, now he flinches whenever he sees someone of ME descent.

This type of thing happens in war. What are you going to do?

It is something however, that should be taken into account. You should be somewhat assured that your end result will mitigate this consequence.

That I could understand. It'd be like Vietnam vets and Charlies.

They don't say if the guy had fought in Iraq or not. If he did, they probably would have mentioned it I would think.

Macrobat · Dec 8, 2006, 11:59 AM

Your thread title is inflammatory and misleading. This is not what "Muslim fear" leads to (I suspect you [i]meant "fear OF Muslims). The far more accurate title is "What Mental Illness Leads to (not necessaily in American, solely).

Wiskedjak · Dec 8, 2006, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Macrobat

Your thread title is inflammatory and misleading. This is not what "Muslim fear" leads to (I suspect you [i]meant "fear OF Muslims). The far more accurate title is "What Mental Illness Leads to (not necessaily in American, solely).

Couldn't agree more. Fear of Muslims is nothing short of mental illness.

Rumor · Dec 8, 2006, 12:30 PM

Yea, I goofed the words a bit. I didn't notice that until you said something.

Fear of Muslims would have been correct.

Macrobat · 12:45 PM

Well, this is obviously an isolated and extreme case. Using a single anecdotal occurence to make such a broad, general claim is ridiculous.

I do not know one single person who is afraid of Muslims, not one, and I live just north of one of the single largest suppliers of military personnel to the WoT (Ft. Bragg/Pope AFB).

Makes it far easier to try and act superior (not you Rumor) and condescending, tho, doesn't it?
Because calling it what it actually is, which is being suspicious of some Muslims' actions would not lend itself so readily to such pithy "jokes."