[TETENAL]

http://www.kxxv.com/Global/story.asp...;nav=menu509_3

A 4 year old has been accused of sexually harassing his kindergarten teacher. Only in America.

[Doofy]

Ridiculous.

Whoever dreamt that one up should be banned from working with young kids.

[Sky Captain]

Whoever drempt that one up had $$$ in their eyes.

[Zeeb]

This reminded me of the South Park episode about "sexual harassment Panda"--only its even more ridiculous.

sexual harassment is America's latest witch hunt. It seems we have to have at least one going on at any one time.

[Dakar²]

Oh come on.

[Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by TETENAL 

Only in America.

QFT.

How can you possibly call this sexual harassement ?

[Kevin]

Blame the people that let such ideas breed in the pond scum of humanity.

[Dakar²]

Maybe it's been a while for her. Only reason I could be seeing sex there...

[badidea]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Maybe it's been a while for her.

Maybe the teacher doesn't know what sex is and still wonders why she never got pregnant from unprotected hugs...
(already happened in Germany with an extreme religiously living couple)

[Dork.]

I'll bet that this is a result of the zero-tolerance policies in place in many school districts. These policies are put in place to eliminate lawsuits by taking the judgement of teachers and administrators out of the equation when punishing students. If a student does something that can be at all interpreted as harassing, they are punished with the same vigor as another student which does something obvious, because punishments are mandated and not flexible at all.

For that matter, I'm not sure how "in-school suspension" solves a damn thing. I work with people with kids in high school right now, and it seems like the school districts got too many complaints from parents who had to find child care when their kid gets suspended and forced to stay home. And I don't think detention after school is a very common punishment anymore, either. So, the school district comes up with this idea where the kid goes to the school building, but serves his suspension in a kind of "study hall" on steroids, when they don't attend any classes and then are expected to make up the work on their own. You think that's gonna happen?

I'll bet the school districts' Sexual Harassment policy mandates in-school suspension for any contact deemed inappropriate at all, regardless of the circumstances. So they give it to a 4-year-old kid, who likely can't even comprehend why he's being punished at all. The school district will explain why, and now he will assume that it's bad to touch girls. Kudos to all involved for teaching our kids proper values.

[Eug Wanker]

Kinda reminds me of the movie Jan Dara.

Terrible movie by the way.

[Jawbone54]

This is far past the point of becoming ridiculous. America is becoming a parody of itself.

I know that children are learning about sex at a younger age, but FOUR??? The teacher should be ashamed of herself, the school should be ashamed of itself, and the district should bend over backwards to apologize fully to the family.

[Dark Helmet]

Land of idiots.

Seriously, why does this mostly seem to happen in the US?

[moodymonster]

because more gets reported in the US than other countries. The US doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity.

[Dork.]

No, see my post above, it's because people are more likely to sue the school district (parent or teacher) over this sort of thing in the U.S. , and school districts have to adopt inflexible policies as a way to cover their collective asses.

[Chuckit]

TA and all administrators involved should be fired. That's all.

[Rumor]

Let's not forget my favorite, third-party sexual harassment.

I got suspended for grabbing a girls ass while kissing her in HS. I wasn't even on school grounds, but across the street.

The girl wasn't my girlfriend per se, but was a girl I was sleeping with.

Some other numbnut reported me. They wouldn't tell me who either.

[Uncle Skeleton]

From the article it sounds like it might be a He-Said-She-Said case. You guys are acting like a 4yo is incapable of sexual harassment. What would you say if there was no ambiguity, like the kid had reached up and squeezed her breasts and said "honk honk" for attention from the other kids. It may still be a product of America, that a kid would have been exposed to something (maybe on TV, maybe beef hormones, whatever) that would give him that idea at that age. But it's not necessarily PC run amock.

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by Dork. 

If a student does something that can be at all interpreted as harassing, they are punished with the same vigor as another student which does something obvious, because punishments are mandated and not flexible at all.

It's hard to see how the child could have done anything at all. 4-year-olds are usually very little people. To hug them so that their face is on your chest the adult either has to bend down or lift them up. Either way the adult is in control of the situation. And let's say the kid was indeed somehow annoying, to assume it was with a sexual intend seems ridiculous for a 4-year-old. Not that it surprises me that something like this can happen in America, the Mecca of prudishness.

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

I got suspended for grabbing a girls ass while kissing her in HS. I wasn't even on school grounds, but across the street.

The girl wasn't my girlfriend per se, but was a girl I was sleeping with.

Some other numbnut reported me. They wouldn't tell me who either.

That is ridiculous.

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

Let's not forget my favorite, third-party sexual harassment.

I got suspended for grabbing a girls ass while kissing her in HS. I wasn't even on school grounds, but across the street.

The girl wasn't my girlfriend per se, but was a girl I was sleeping with.

Some other numbnut reported me. They wouldn't tell me who either.

That doesn't make sense.

I used to get a kick out of the fact that in the mornings all the smokers would stand across the street doing so, in plain sight of the school.

[moodymonster]

Originally Posted by Dork. 

No, see my post above, it's because people are more likely to sue the school district (parent or teacher) over this sort of thing in the U.S. , and school districts have to adopt inflexible policies as a way to cover their collective asses.

this is a thing that is in other countries as well. It does seem more pronounced in the US though - but we're catching up.

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by TETENAL 

It's hard to see how the child could have done anything at all. 4-year-olds are usually very little people. To hug them so that their face is on your chest the adult either has to bend down or lift them up. Either way the adult is in control of the situation. And let's say the kid was indeed somehow annoying, to assume it was with a sexual intend seems ridiculous for a 4-year-old. Not that it surprises me that something like this can happen in America, the Mecca of prudishness.

You're right, the child did not do anything intentionally at all. But my contention is that there's probably a regulation that says this type of contact merits an in-school suspension, no matter what. It doesn't matter how old the child is, what their intent is, or even what is best for the child; the primary motivation is what is best for the school district, to avoid getting sued. Once you make exceptions for anyone, it becomes a judgement call on the part of the district, and that is subject to scrutiny in court. But if you have a strict policy and enforce it no matter what, then the individual decisions do not come up under as much scrutiny.

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by moodymonster 

this is a thing that is in other countries as well. It does seem more pronounced in the US though - but we're catching up.

Yup, we're the leader, and the rest of the world is playing catch-up!

America ---- F*** Yeah!

[moodymonster]

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by Dork. 

It doesn't matter how old the child is, what their intent is, or even what is best for the child; the primary motivation is what is best for the school district, to avoid getting sued. Once you make exceptions for anyone, it becomes a judgement call on the part of the district, and that is subject to scrutiny in court. But if you have a strict policy and enforce it no matter what, then the individual decisions do not come up under as much scrutiny.

Are you aware that what you are saying here is inhumane?

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by TETENAL 

Are you aware that what you are saying here is inhumane?

Absolutely, I'm aware of it. But I doubt the local school board in this case is. This is why I'm a little afraid for when my daughter is old enough to go to school. At least our local school district seems to have a clue....

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

From the article it sounds like it might be a He-Said-She-Said case. You guys are acting like a 4yo is incapable of sexual harassment. What would you say if there was no ambiguity, like the kid had reached up and squeezed her breasts and said "honk honk" for attention from the other kids. It may still be a product of America, that a kid would have been exposed to something (maybe on TV, maybe beef hormones, whatever) that would give him that idea at that age. But it's not necessarily PC run amock.

I have to admit, that made me laugh.

[Rumor]

News flash:

Beef hormones cause children to honk breast.

More at 11.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

Let's not forget my favorite, third-party sexual harassment.

I got suspended for grabbing a girls ass while kissing her in HS. I wasn't even on school grounds, but across the street.

The girl wasn't my girlfriend per se, but was a girl I was sleeping with.

Some other numbnut reported me. They wouldn't tell me who either.

Hahahaha! Sounds like here!

[marden]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

From the article it sounds like it might be a He-Said-She-Said case. You guys are acting like a 4yo is incapable of sexual harassment. What would you say if there was no ambiguity, like the kid had reached up and squeezed her breasts and said "honk honk" for attention from the other kids. It may still be a product of America, that a kid would have been exposed to something (maybe on TV, maybe beef hormones, whatever) that would give him that idea at that age. But it's not necessarily PC run amock.

I say give him the chair!

The potty chair.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

News flash:

Beef hormones cause children to honk breast.

More at 11.

It's really the only reason I still eat beef

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by TETENAL 

Only in America.

Hey, I have a copyright on that




-t

[ironknee]

bah

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by moodymonster 

because more gets reported in the US than other countries. The US doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity.

They don't have news and internet outside the US?

The US DOES have a monopoly on stupid lawsuits that's for sure.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

The US DOES have a monopoly on stupid lawsuits that's for sure.

You sir don't know what a monopoly is.

[Dark Helmet]

Lawsuit: Kindergarteners sexually assaulted by classmate - CNN.com

[ghporter]

I have to take the locale into account. The Waco area is, shall we say, "parochial" or maybe "provincial." There are folks in that area who think that babies really do show up under cabbage leaves, and people who think that every single sperm should be treated as a potential child. To have a teacher's aid get irate about a little kid's hug is not surprising to me at all. Saddening, but not surprising.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

You sir don't know what a monopoly is.

Microsoft proved the U.S. doesn't know what a monopoly is, either.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

Lawsuit: Kindergarteners sexually assaulted by classmate - CNN.com

Only in Amaraca. As always.

-t