[kobi]

Any president who says, I don't care, or I will not respond to what the people of this country are saying about Iraq or anything else, or I don't care what the Congress does, I am going to proceed - if a president really believes that, then there are - what I was pointing out, there are ways to deal with that," said Hagel.

Taken from the AP news story http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

"The president says, 'I don't care.' He's not accountable anymore," Hagel says, measuring his words by the syllable and his syllables almost by the letter. "He's not accountable anymore, which isn't totally true. You can impeach him, and before this is over, you might see calls for his impeachment. I don't know. It depends how this goes."

Taken from Esquire Magazine http://www.esquire.com/features/chuckhagel0407

Now here is a senator that gets it. Finally somebody has found their pair and is speaking out. Bush has major trouble brewing in the Senate and the House and with the public.

You know your days are numbered when the 2nd highest ranking Republican senator is publicly talking about impeachment. This one will make Clinton's look like a slap on the wrist, oh that's right it was a slap on the wrist.

And before everybody starts asking what he could be impeached for here's a small list that can be found here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

NSA- Warrent-less wiretappings
2003 Invasion of Iraq
Going against the UN "War of Aggression" Charter
Unlawful Combat Status
Extraordinary rendition of Detainees
Treatment of Detainees
Leaking of Classified Information
Declassifying for political purposes
Mishandling of Hurricane Katrina
Abuse of Power

Let the spin begin.

[Dakar²]

I won't hold my breath.

[OldManMac]

I won't hold mine either, but I have written my representatives to let them know that I think he should be impeached.

[Dork.]

In order to have impeachment be a valid option IMHO, you're going to have to find actual "high crimes and misdemeanors" that he has committed. While there might very well be something that rises to that level, keep in mind that persuing policies that you don't agree with do not constitue a "high crime". And differences of opinion over how much leeway that the Executive branch has to ignore the intent of the Legislative Branch do not constitute "high crimes" either. The NSA Wiretapping thing is a perfect example of this: the Executive Branch is convinced that it is within its legal authority to do. So, the remedy to this lies within the checks and balances of the three branches of government.

I'll admit that there is a long list of things that smell like high crimes, but I don't think they'll stand up to technical legal scrutiny. The cynic in my thinks this is by design.

Remember that he was legally elected to the office twice. (and even if you're in denial over the 2000 election, you can't dispute that he gained support in 2004, even after invading Iraq, without sounding like a spoiled brat.) If you're going to invalidate the results of those elections, you need to find clear and specific instances of the President doing things that even the people who voted for him would agree is not in the best interests of the country.

[tie]

If we want to win the war in Iraq, we have to impeach Bush. Look at how he's handled the last four years for proof. Otherwise, we either lose the war, withdraw early, or "stay the course" until a competent president is elected. But I think we'll most probably stay the course, since the status quo is always the easiest option.

Edit: I guess another option would be for Congress to step up and try to handle the war, since Bush refuses to take responsibility for it -- but I can't see congressional micromanagement as practical.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by tie 

If we want to win the war in Iraq, we have to impeach Bush. Look at how he's handled the last four years for proof. Otherwise, we either lose the war, withdraw early, or "stay the course" until a competent president is elected. But I think we'll most probably stay the course, since the status quo is always the easiest option.

Edit: I guess another option would be for Congress to step up and try to handle the war, since Bush refuses to take responsibility for it -- but I can't see congressional micromanagement as practical.

What does "win the war in Iraq" even mean anymore? It seems like it has become shorthand for something nebulous which ought to be defined!

[Northeastern292]

Originally Posted by tie 

If we want to win the war in Iraq, we have to impeach Bush. Look at how he's handled the last four years for proof. Otherwise, we either lose the war, withdraw early, or "stay the course" until a competent president is elected. But I think we'll most probably stay the course, since the status quo is always the easiest option.

Edit: I guess another option would be for Congress to step up and try to handle the war, since Bush refuses to take responsibility for it -- but I can't see congressional micromanagement as practical.

Agreed. If they could impeach him in a three month period, then it would prove the Republican party has overstayed it's welcome. But it will end up that President Bush will go down in history as the worst president ever.

Then when we enter a Great Depression, we teenagers of America will march on the White House and demand President Bush's resignation. But he probably will not listen to us teens.

Did I forget to mention that 20 percent of all mortgages are subprime? Goes to show that America+Bush=No Middle Class.

[subego]

Originally Posted by tie 

If we want to win the war in Iraq, we have to impeach Bush. Look at how he's handled the last four years for proof. Otherwise, we either lose the war, withdraw early, or "stay the course" until a competent president is elected. But I think we'll most probably stay the course, since the status quo is always the easiest option.

Edit: I guess another option would be for Congress to step up and try to handle the war, since Bush refuses to take responsibility for it -- but I can't see congressional micromanagement as practical.

Quoted for some goddamn ****ing truth for a change.